I can understand why the Dutch were angry at the end, I felt every 50/50 went Englands way. Looking at the penalty again though, I still think that was the correct call.
Semi-finals | Spain vs France | Netherlands vs England
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Finally! Some of his calls were real head-scratchers but as for the penalty incident he was correct in awarding that.
We will have to agree to disagree as to me the EPL is the top level English League.
Apology accepted.
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Look at this. Saka handballed, so it never should come to the Kane/Dumfries clash.
#relief
And nor should he, his job is to win, that's all that matters
Needed that measuring device, it sort of brushes his hand from deflecting off his thigh but not 100% clear. Second one irrelevant as by then Dumfries has in VAR opinion kicked Kane when to me he just put his foot up to block the shot and Kane kicked into him.
yeah Kane was never impeded, his lowered his foot after the shot after which he hit Dumfries, not the other way around
Learn the handball rule, the ball bounced off his body on to his arm, that is not consiered a handball under the current laws
England by far the better team aside from 30 minutes of stalemate in the second half- besides the two goals, they had a shot cleared off the line and another goal ruled out for a marginal offside. Southgate should have made the subs 10 minutes earlier if you want to be critical.
Feck all of the salty losers in this thread.
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His haircut. That was about it.
Looking at top posts on Twitter for 'England penalty' that give an opinion, there are 26 'not a pen' posts before you get to one saying 'pen'.
That's about as unanimous as it gets.
That's about as unanimous as it gets.
Of course, but nothing wrong with what he said.
England v Spain is becoming a habit in finals. U21 Euro's, Women's World Cup, Euro 24.
Not every collision or bit of contact is worthy of being awarded a penalty. He was trying to block the shot in a reasonable manner (no obvious excess lunging and attempts to go through him with lots of weight behind it, de Jong style) , but Kane gets there marginally quicker and follows through. Timing was awkward and they've collided, but a defender has to be entitled to that sort of 50/50 attempt at a clean block.
It hits his thigh and it possibly brushes his arm but it hardly looks intentional. The ball bounces up onto his forearm.
Put it this way, the Dutch were poor and deserved nothing at all from the game. The Swiss were better opponents.
England clearly played the better football even with Kane being a statue most of the game. Kobbie was oustanding first half and Foden, in all fairness, looked more like the player he is at City.
The penalty would probably never have been given pre-VAR, but with VAR, any contact after the shot is gonna be called back. So as soon as I saw the replay and Kane making contact with Dumfries' studs, I knew VAR would give the penalty.
I mean we will probably lose in the final, but England were comfortably the better team today and deserved the win. Anyone arguing otherwise is clearly having a hard time.
Haha that’s one way of putting it!
if you’re going to get a coffee at work tomorrow, and barbara from accounts hits you with a block like that when you get to the kitchen, you’re going straight to hr. clear penalty.
First replay I’ve seen of that incident. How the feck is that a penalty? The Dutch player kicks the ball and Kane kicks his foot. Did the ref just award the free to the player with the most melodramatic reaction?! Classic Harry Kane. Always cheating.
The Dutch player didn’t touch the ball. That angle is deceptive.
Ok, it’s the only angle I’ve seen. Will need to see another one. Looks incredibly soft though.
I didn’t think it was a penalty. Kane got his shot off. The foul occurred after. So it depends on how the rules work I guess.
Kane is such a fecking cheat. Really can’t stand him. He’s a big lump but he is constantly throwing himself on the ground trying to win free kicks.
Kane for England is literally just Ashley Barnes. Having a nice sit down on the halfway line and being given a free kick would be his signature move, if trying to break the defender's neck during every other aerial duel wasn't already his signature move.
I went in not really caring who won but after 15 minutes of watching Mainoo i realised i was supporting England. Odd times.
I dont think the Dutch had the quality to trouble Spain anyway. England look like they'll be both terrible and brilliant and somehow win.
I dont think the Dutch had the quality to trouble Spain anyway. England look like they'll be both terrible and brilliant and somehow win.
Watching England’s first half performance today has got me thinking that they may have half a decent chance of making it very difficult for Spain to waltz to victory this weekend. England might even make history …again. The pain from losing the last final should add an extra impetus.
Hate to say it but Southgate may just be the second most successful England manager ever.
Hate to say it but Southgate may just be the second most successful England manager ever.
How good was our Kobbie?! 
He already is the 2nd most successful England manager ever.
Conservative teams are Spain's nightmare.
So we'll see.
So we'll see.
Can’t argue, to be honest. But having watched Spain this tournament, England could need that if they want a chance in the final.
Agreed. Spain were also great first half and poor ish 2nd half. They are slight favourites but will have to be at their best to beat England
I thought Netherlands were white negative in the second half considering. Seemed a tactical move from Koeman.
Thought England were better in 1st half after conceding while Netherlands had more initiative in 2nd half but didn't create much from it.
England have Shaw and Mainoo, Netherlands have too many Liverpool players in their squad, so well done England.
England have Shaw and Mainoo, Netherlands have too many Liverpool players in their squad, so well done England.