Semi-Finals: Italy vs Spain | England vs Denmark

Just wondering if it's worth Henderson starting on Sunday. Phillips and Rice were great in phases but in others struggled.

The back line is another question. 5 or 4? Then who plays with Sterling and Kane?

Maguire, Shaw and Sterling all deserve a shout for player of the tournament. Shaw has been so good since coming in.

I think we improved a lot when Henderson came on, he also looks fully fit from the "eye test".
 
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Bitter about what?

Your captain is a cheat, as is your best player...both cheated by diving. Hopefully yous get cheated by the Italians on Sunday so we can all laugh at your salty tears :lol:
Ok. Enjoy your evening.
 
Yet came into a thread where obviously a bunch of England fans would be happy after getting to a final for the first time in nearly 60 years to criticise and call us all hypocrites. Okay mate.

I admit that was it was a bit excessive. But I just felt bad for Denmark. I also explained as a Sporting fan I'm used to being in the wrong end of decisions.
 
I want the final to end 1-0 to England, with sancho scoring from an offside position, after being given the ball by a freekick won from a dive by Kane, in the 4th minute of 2 minutes added on time in the second half.

I'll never need to buy salt for me chips again.
You'd need gallons of vinegar, though.
 
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Might quote this on Sunday.
 
You are mentioning doubtful plays in best case scenario (aside from disgusting Busquets). I have seen a bunch of important decisions waaaay worse than that, for example just in NT championships in the last 30 years:
- 1996: EC QFs... 2 legal goals disallowed against England (lost on pens).
- 1994: WC QFs... minute 90, Tassotti breaks Luis Enrique's nose in the area... Baggio scores in the counter (2-1). Tassotti was later sanctioned 8 games due to the extreme violence shown. First (and unique) time in history that FIFA did this in a WC.
- 2002: WC QFs... 2 legal goals disallowed against South Korea and a never ending list of fouls, lost on pens. Italy was blatantly robbed before too.

I could make a bigger lists of wrong decisions (for example in WC 2010 our goal against Portugal is an offside close call, Paraguay committed a clear penalty that was not sanctioned, De Jong foul to Xabi Alonso in the final, etc.), but either way are difficult to call, only "one" during the game without VAR, etc.

At least 2002 was a bribe 100%. It is impossible to happen by random. Italy suffered the same in the previous round.


However... there were no VAR. VAR is designed specifically for cases like this.
It is difficult to explain that you give a penalty without any contact in a EC semifinal. You can be doubtful about the red against Switzerland (it is too harsh to me but it is a clear and dangerous foul so the red is not out of question), but you cannot have any doubt with that penalty, sorry. It is a blatant dive.There is no doubt. It makes no sense not to overturn the decision. Imagine that there is VAR and Lampard's goal against Germany is not conceded. What would you think?

This is like comparing tennis in 1980s with some wrong decisions vs using the hawk-eye and make a wrong decision either way. It is not comparable at all.
You’re a Barcelona/Spain supporter on a high horse over cheating in football. You’ve lost this argument before it even started, but if you wish to continue to egg yourself in the face that’s fine by me. I want to hear more about good old honest Sergio Busquets though. Please tell us more about him, and more specifically this wonderful new concept of it isn’t cheating if VAR didn’t exist. Go on…
 
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Bitter about what?

Your captain is a cheat, as is your best player...both cheated by diving. Hopefully yous get cheated by the Italians on Sunday so we can all laugh at your salty tears :lol:

"I believe that if I use laughing emoji's I will look less salty. This is funny to me, I promise!!" Carry on.
 
We've not been in a major final for 55 years. Most of us have never even seen us play in a final, and you get salty cnuts on here trying to dismiss what we have achieved.
So those sat cnuts shouldn't say it's the truth that's bent because you'd waited 55 years for this?
 
The silly thing is the fact a team who hasn't been in a final for 55 year is going to be mocked relentlessly for losing to a team who in recent time has been massively massively more successful and who are favourites.
 
I admit that was it was a bit excessive. But I just felt bad for Denmark. I also explained as a Sporting fan I'm used to being in the wrong end of decisions.

I have not idea what you mean about being a Sporting fan as I do not follow Portuguese football. I will say that fans of most teams think they are on the wrong side of most decisions.

Either way, I can find dozens of penalties that are weaker than that which have been given since VAR came into place. I am not sure why it is only an issue when England are given one. I totally get that Denmark have had a beautiful story and them getting to the final would have been the icing on the cake but the better team did win and in this day and age that is a penalty. Right or wrong does not matter as the same instance would result in a penalty against England at the other end.
 
The silly thing is the fact a team who hasn't been in a final for 55 year is going to be mocked relentlessly for losing to a team who in recent time has been massively massively more successful and who are favourites.
England are (wrongly) favourites
 
The silly thing is the fact a team who hasn't been in a final for 55 year is going to be mocked relentlessly for losing to a team who in recent time has been massively massively more successful and who are favourites.

Why would anyone be mocked for losing to a team that everyone says is better?
 
I think we improved a lot when Henderson came on, he also looks fully fit from the "eye test".
Same. He moves the ball better. The thing is you don't want to leave Rice isolated against Italy. I think Southgate will go for caution and play Rice/Phillips together.

I don't think Saka and Mount should start personally, or at least one of them should miss out for Grealish.
 
Same. He moves the ball better. The thing is you don't want to leave Rice isolated against Italy. I think Southgate will go for caution and play Rice/Phillips together.

I don't think Saka and Mount should start personally, or at least one of them should miss out for Grealish.

He'll play 5 at the back as he did against germany
 
England supporters on an English forum happy to see their team in the EURO final.

Who‘d have thought it ;)
 
Same. He moves the ball better. The thing is you don't want to leave Rice isolated against Italy. I think Southgate will go for caution and play Rice/Phillips together.

I don't think Saka and Mount should start personally, or at least one of them should miss out for Grealish.

I think we should start all 3 but I don't think he will, either way he would be in my midfield.

Harsh to Phillips and Rice but I think Southgate has to ask himself whether he wants to be remembered as the person who was really loyal to those two in 50 years time or the manager who won something for the first time in 60 years.
 
I think we should start all 3 but I don't think he will, either way he would be in my midfield.

Harsh to Phillips and Rice but I think Southgate has to ask himself whether he wants to be remembered as the person who was really loyal to those two in 50 years time or the manager who won something for the first time in 60 years.
Spoiler alert, he'll go with the safe option and name an unchanged team.
 
Support the lads. It's coming home. Rashford, Maguire, Shaw and Sancho returning to carrington as euro winners will be great for united next season.
 
Youre opinion is over rated a bit like your team

Oh my word, I chose a self depreciating username and you used it against me. That is literally the pinnacle of wit and no one has ever done that before. I retract everything I said and Sterling should have stayed on his feet despite a 7 foot man charging into his thighs whilst he was running full speed.
 
Oh my word, I chose a self depreciating username and you used it against me. That is literally the pinnacle of wit and no one has ever done that before. I retract everything I said and Sterling should have stayed on his feet despite a 7 foot man charging into his thighs whilst he was running full speed.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit...
 
I have not idea what you mean about being a Sporting fan as I do not follow Portuguese football. I will say that fans of most teams think they are on the wrong side of most decisions.

Either way, I can find dozens of penalties that are weaker than that which have been given since VAR came into place. I am not sure why it is only an issue when England are given one. I totally get that Denmark have had a beautiful story and them getting to the final would have been the icing on the cake but the better team did win and in this day and age that is a penalty. Right or wrong does not matter as the same instance would result in a penalty against England at the other end.

No way this is a pen, imo of course, but it's pointless to argue. Enjoy the final. It was incredible when Portugal won in 2016 in contrast with 2004. You will know the feeling next Sunday.
 
This thread reads like RAWK. What's wrong, still pissed about Brexit?

A soft pen from a half dive that all players would have done too. He was clipped by the second players hip, so saying there was no contact is delusional. We've seen VAR hasn't been overturning much this tournament so the cries of corruption are hilarious.

All ignoring the soft freekick for their goal and potential other pens for England too of course. We were easily the better team, probably would have scored anyway and are due a bit of luck in a major tournament.

Supposed to be United fans, stop crying about the country of the team you support doing well.

It's. Coming. Home.