Some fans booed, more fans told those who were booing that they were cnuts.
It’s a minority.
As an aside Italy fans and Spanish fans were booing each other’s anthems in the other semi. I was at both matches.
Semi-Finals: Italy vs Spain | England vs Denmark
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It’s a minority.
As an aside Italy fans and Spanish fans were booing each other’s anthems in the other semi. I was at both matches.
So are you saying that not one Dane cheated to get a free kick? Not at all, in the whole match? After all, they got a goal from one that should never have been given. Or are you going to ignore that?
Kane blatantly dived twice to gain a free kick, the penalty was soft at best but I dont believe it was a penalty. It used to be that the British teams were always honest. The cheating and diving used to be done against us, seems like England have picked up bad habits.
Get real, no team has been honest for decades.
Unfortunately you are right about that. When you play Italy and they dive and get a penalty/free kick or any other advantage you can look back at the Denmark game.
The Italians, Spanish and South American teams in particular, have been cheating their way to trophies for years, why would Sunday be any different? We're used to it by now.
Inside your head it would seem...
Thought the ref was generally rubbish.
The Kane foul looked a pen to me, the one we got wasn't a pen, he booked Maguire for the first foul he made all match whereas the Danish seemed to be able to make constant fouls without being booked.
The Kane foul looked a pen to me, the one we got wasn't a pen, he booked Maguire for the first foul he made all match whereas the Danish seemed to be able to make constant fouls without being booked.
I agree they do. Im just maybe a tad disappointed its creeped into the British game over the last decade or two. But it got your lot to a final and if it came down to the last second of the game and Kane fell over in the box and got a penalty and scored to win the trophy im sure not a single English fan would care, not one pundit call out Kane for it. The rest of the UK would never let you forget it though
The officials certainly did
Too bad the ref couldn’t hear you.
Surely we can all agree that's never a penalty? Even better is Sterling's understanding (from post-match comments) about how penalties are given. Guess that's been coached into him. And guess it worked.
Anyway, I do think it's possible to distinguish between what I'm dubbing 'the Kane' - wait for contact, receive contact, crumble from contact or even 'the Sterling' - run into dangerous area, assume contact coming, fallover and hope for contact and what the Italians did the other night. Both are cheating, yes, both are committing acts to deceive the referee to gain an advantage.
But for many of us over on the 'North America' side of things, exaggerating contact to win fouls and pretending to be hurt are two entirely different sins. There are degrees of cheating, and my limit is somewhere betwene Kane and Sterling, but most people just watch the Italian antics the other night and want to turn off the television. When the absolute monster that is Donnarumma runs into his own player and goes down crying like a baby for 5 minutes it's not really part of the game in my opinion. By all means, go down to earn your free kick, but the faking of - what was it - his head? Chest - that feels a bit too soon? Wrist? Who knows. Whatever it was, he is acting, continuously, for minutes at a time. And it's pathetic, with a capital P.
Anyway, I do think it's possible to distinguish between what I'm dubbing 'the Kane' - wait for contact, receive contact, crumble from contact or even 'the Sterling' - run into dangerous area, assume contact coming, fallover and hope for contact and what the Italians did the other night. Both are cheating, yes, both are committing acts to deceive the referee to gain an advantage.
But for many of us over on the 'North America' side of things, exaggerating contact to win fouls and pretending to be hurt are two entirely different sins. There are degrees of cheating, and my limit is somewhere betwene Kane and Sterling, but most people just watch the Italian antics the other night and want to turn off the television. When the absolute monster that is Donnarumma runs into his own player and goes down crying like a baby for 5 minutes it's not really part of the game in my opinion. By all means, go down to earn your free kick, but the faking of - what was it - his head? Chest - that feels a bit too soon? Wrist? Who knows. Whatever it was, he is acting, continuously, for minutes at a time. And it's pathetic, with a capital P.
Says the person who continually uses “yous” and “mines”.
Explain to me what his post meant?
Denmark were fecked in ET but fair play to England for getting over the line despite the contentious penalty decision. They are the types of games that they'd usually draw or lose in the past because they'd panic but they remained calm and managed the game perfectly in the last 10 minutes of ET.
You obviously believe the pen would've been given if it had been Denmark's?
Yeah that jokes been done already you a fecking parrot?
Enjoy your boring, diving, cheating win though..
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Harsh on the referee. I think that when he watches it back he will probably feel like VAR has mugged him off and made him look bad in front of a global audience, and that he would’ve liked the chance to review it himself. That’s the problem with the clear and obvious bar.
As soon as there’s a contentious decision, the VAR should just send him to the monitor. It would’ve taken him 30 seconds to see that he was conned, which is the same time it took VAR to decide whether the decision was wrong or clearly and obviously wrong. We’ve seen incidents in the PL (Nketiah red card for Arsenal for example) where the VAR’s faffing about for ages about how wrong the decision is, and then sends the ref to the monitor who makes up his mind in five seconds.
Another thing I noticed was Peter Walton blatantly said it was a penalty as well after seeing the replay, the whole thing stinks to me.
Fergie still paying off the officials.
Nobody gave a feck what Peter Walton thinks, not sure the VAR refs were considering his opinion.
You must be proud of how the Italians played in their last couple of games then.
Apparently the Denmark goal shouldn't have stood.
FIFA rules state that: "Where three or more defending team players form a 'wall,' all attacking team players must remain at least 1 metre (1 yard) from the 'wall' until the ball is in play."
Which they apparently did not do.
Everyone going to be up in arms about that right? It's surely as relevant as a second football being on the pitch?
FIFA rules state that: "Where three or more defending team players form a 'wall,' all attacking team players must remain at least 1 metre (1 yard) from the 'wall' until the ball is in play."
Which they apparently did not do.
Everyone going to be up in arms about that right? It's surely as relevant as a second football being on the pitch?
Still a little in shock that we are through to the final. The England boom and bust cycle usually collapses into bust before the final. Delighted to be in with a shot at the end of everything. I have made no secret of my distrust of Southgate. Hopefully he shows me up one more time on Sunday.
More proud than I would be of Kane or Sterling anyway..
It counts as cheating only if the English gain advantage from it. Have you missed the memo?
Some of the comments from our residential bitters are simply glorious
I think there's a very good chance Italy dominate this England team, but the idea that England didn't deserve it last night irregardless of the decisions is baffling.
Denmark had decent spells but were simply not on the same level.
I think there's a very good chance Italy dominate this England team, but the idea that England didn't deserve it last night irregardless of the decisions is baffling.
Denmark had decent spells but were simply not on the same level.
And they finally learnt. About time I must say.
I read many Italian sites. The comments about it are hilarious. They make you think that diving was invented yesterday by the English
The first tackle on sterling wasn't a foul but people forget their was a second Danish player who came across Sterling's thigh with his knees and no where near the ball.
Even still so many bitters on here. Apart from a small spell in the second half the Danish didn't offer much
Even still so many bitters on here. Apart from a small spell in the second half the Danish didn't offer much
Not a pen for me but who actually cares if you are an Englishman or women this morning.....
What a night, the best team won, looking forward to the final now. Suck it up haters. Come on England.
I questioned bringing Foden on, but he was excellent, exactly what we needed in that moment.
I think that says a lot about you then.
To be fair the song wouldn't be as good if it went 'It's coming home, hopefully but obviously there are some great teams and we believe we've got a great chance. It's coming, footballs coming home'
It says feck all about me..
Based on the balance of the play England deserved it. That doesn't change the fact Sterling clearly dived and got a pen for that.Some of the comments from our residential bitters are simply glorious
I think there's a very good chance Italy dominate this England team, but the idea that England didn't deserve it last night irregardless of the decisions is baffling.
Denmark had decent spells but were simply not on the same level.
Thing is, playacting and diving is frowned upon in English media and football culture in general and is still regarded as something those foreigners brought to the beautiful game. Yet when England team benefits from it its all forgotten. I'm not saying people shouldnt celebrate, on the contrary and there were of course instances where England got the wrong end of those kind of decisions but it's still interesting.
Maradona hand of God is still discussed and is regarded as a big scandal.
What really stood out to me was how efficiently they 'hid' the ball from the Danes by simply passing it around, in a calm and composed way. I know Denmark were down to ten men at that point but still, in my lifetime no England team could maintain possession so effectively in such a high-pressure game.
Yeah, no doubt about that one for me either. But the fact that VAR is in effect, that's as much on the ref's as anyone. All teams and players look to make advantages for their teams where possible. The bigger issue is that none of the officials spotted 2 balls on the pitch at the same time surely!
The officiating was appalling last night, for the first time this tournament. Kane should have had a penalty (and certainly wasn't a dive), Maguire booking was ridiculous, Denmark's free-kick for the goal was soft/broke new laws regarding players in wall, and that's all before the Sterling/penalty incident.
It felt all day long like one of those games where a poor decision was going to swing it one way or another, just glad it went the way of the team who deserved it in spite of the above.