Sell Ronaldo, Sign Lennon

Davo said:
Again...I'm struggling to find the sense

Just anger
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1. You don't realize the sense in the simple fact that we won a treble in 99 when we had Cole, Yorke, Sheringham and Ole all who are no way near as good as Ruud?

2. You don't realise Saha is better than Cole and Yorke. Meaning if we sorted out midfield this summer which we WILL we wouldn't need a Ruud. Just another Cole or Yorke type

3. You don't realise in all Europe NO ONE can replace Ruud in terms of goal ratio at a club that plays like United usually do?

4. The fact that you flatter your Scouse self that Man Utd fans are busy thinking about you precious Anfield side?

5. And you put all this down to anger? And see no sense? You are pitiful. You need mental help
 
AARONTHERED said:
Rooney? Mature? :lol:

Rooney has some SERIOUS maturity issues, but the point is, he shows SIGNS of maturing. He's got to control his anger and emotions.

Ronaldo shows NO sign of maturing at all. That's the POINT. Torres is a young player and though perhaps not the most mature, he constantly shows SIGNS of it. Robinho shows SIGNS of it.

I cant think of many times (if any) where Ronaldo, while wearing the United shirt, showed any signs of it.
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I haven't even read through the rest of this thread, but predictably i'm going to say that you're talking complete bullshit. And if Ronaldo's World Cup performances didn't show signs of him maturing into a great player, yet Wayne Rooney did, then you deserve to be granted a scholarship to any academic institution offering a course on football. Failing that, a mental institution may do it, at a push.
 
Davo said:
It's daft to suggest that Chelsea don't value the FA Cup..

Riise isn't a better winger than Pennant,and it's a stupid comparison...Kewell is when fit.
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What is up with Kewell? First reports said gout and then they said it was septic arthritus. Which sounds bad.

I balme him for Australia losing to the diving cheating Ities.

If only he had winked we could have had months of amusing word play for a second player.
 
French Henry said:
And if he ever did start playing with a real level of consistency, which would obviously be noticed by other clubs, he'd be out the door so fast that it'd create a small sonic boom.

It's a lose-lose situation.
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Yeah if he lives up to his potential though United will be able to sell him for 30 million to a Spanish side, which they certainly arent offering now despite their desire for him.
 
kanchelskis14 said:
I haven't even read through the rest of this thread, but predictably i'm going to say that you're talking complete bullshit. And if Ronaldo's World Cup performances didn't show signs of him maturing into a great player, yet Wayne Rooney did, then you deserve to be granted a scholarship to any academic institution offering a course on football. Failing that, a mental institution may do it, at a push.
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I said while wearing a United shirt. :rolleyes:

He showed signs of playing well for Portugal in the past, during that euro tournament as well. When he's wearing the United shirt playing in England, it's a different story.

I'm not saying he's a bad player. He can be wonderful to watch. He's just painfully inconsistant. You'd have to be an idiot not to see that. And before you comment, read posts more clearly.
 
AARONTHERED said:
I said while wearing a United shirt. :rolleyes:

He showed signs of playing well for Portugal in the past, during that euro tournament as well. When he's wearing the United shirt playing in England, it's a different story.

I'm not saying he's a bad player. He can be wonderful to watch. He's just painfully inconsistant. You'd have to be an idiot not to see that. And before you comment, read posts more clearly.
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You've spoken bullshit all through out this thread but you are too blind to see or understand it. What's wrong with you?:eek:
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
You've spoken bullshit all through out this thread but you are too blind to see or understand it. What's wrong with you?:eek:
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The fact that Lennon hasn't been mentioned for 2-3 pages says it all really!!!
He should stick to the main forum, He's not a true transfer Muppet:D
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
You've spoken bullshit all through out this thread but you are too blind to see or understand it. What's wrong with you?:eek:
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No he hasn't.

If you've read what he's typed and actually think about it then you'll realise most of it makes sense.

Ronaldo - Inconsistent, has shown minimal signs of improvement in a united shirt, doesn't want to be here, does NOTHING in the first half of a season, plays better with Portugal than he does with us and still plays for himself a lot of the time.

Remember the Benfica game? We were 2-1 down, heading out of the champions league and the little cnut decides to do 3 keepy uppies heading towards OUR goal...just to show off.

Remember how he insulted Fergie by saying he never stuck up for him?

He has the potential to be a very good player...but he'll never be as good as he can be. We've been saying 'he's young, give him time to improve' for 3 years now. That'd be fine if he'd have shown good signs of improvement but he hasn't really.

It's a matter of time before he goes to Madrid so it would make sense to get rid of him asap and bring in a replacement. Lennon would, imo, bring more to our first team than Ronaldo has been doing.

Never going to happen though as Ronaldo won't be sold...yet.
 
:wenger:

Anyone who suggest Lennon is anywhere near as good as Ronaldo either doesn't know the first thing about football or is just blinkerd to now end. Let's introduce some statistics shall we:

CRonaldo - 24 starts, 9 goals, 6 assists
Joe Cole - 26 starts, 7 goals, 4 assists
Pederson - 34 starts, 9 goals, 6 assists
Lennon - 22 starts, 2 goals, 2 assists
Kewell - 22 starts, 3 goals, 2 assists
NZogbia - 26 starts, 5 goals, 5 assists.

Also consider that defenses were likely to pay more attention to Ronaldo rather than Lennon, who no-one had heard of at the beginning of last season.

Ronaldo, even with his inconsistancy is the best winger in the league. Lennon has potential yes but he's very raw, even more so than Ronaldo.
 
Ronaldo is the more talented player but Lennon isn't a dumb twat. If Ronaldo ever gets his head in gear he could be the greatest player in Europe but i struggle to see that happening.
 
Dark Devil said:
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Anyone who suggest Lennon is anywhere near as good as Ronaldo either doesn't know the first thing about football or is just blinkerd to now end. Let's introduce some statistics shall we:

CRonaldo - 24 starts, 9 goals, 6 assists
Joe Cole - 26 starts, 7 goals, 4 assists
Pederson - 34 starts, 9 goals, 6 assists
Lennon - 22 starts, 2 goals, 2 assists
Kewell - 22 starts, 3 goals, 2 assists
NZogbia - 26 starts, 5 goals, 5 assists.

Also consider that defenses were likely to pay more attention to Ronaldo rather than Lennon, who no-one had heard of at the beginning of last season.

Ronaldo, even with his inconsistancy is the best winger in the league. Lennon has potential yes but he's very raw, even more so than Ronaldo.
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Why bother the retards don't understand statistics....., they will still post he is inconsistant, or something stupid like 'i bet half of them goals were when he was playing for Portugal!!'
 
Mainoldo said:
Why bother the retards don't understand statistics....., they will still post he is inconsistant, or something stupid like 'i bet half of them goals were when he was playing for Portugal!!'
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He's inconsistant. Not because any winger in the Prem produces more than him, but because he could produce so much more.

He scored 9 in 22 league games. Which is a very good goal haul for a winger. The reason why he is slated so much is because with better finishing, less showing off and better free kicks he could have scored 15 and been, hands down, the best player in league.

I have, like everyone else, been annoyed with him on occasion but to slate him purely because he has too much talent is moronic.

Even if he doesn't fulfill his potential he's the best winger in the league. Why we should replace him with someone with far less talent who plays to his potential, yet still doesn't produce as much as Ronaldo is beyond me.

I expect big things from him next season. We'll start the season with Saha as a first choice striker instead of Ruud, which should help bring Ronaldo into the game, like we saw in the second half of last season.
 
Mainoldo said:
The fact that Lennon hasn't been mentioned for 2-3 pages says it all really!!!
He should stick to the main forum, He's not a true transfer Muppet:D
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Oh yes he is. Looke at the thread title. About as much sense as Sack Fergie, Sell Giggs.
 
Dark Devil said:
He's inconsistant. Not because any winger in the Prem produces more than him, but because he could produce so much more.

He scored 9 in 22 league games. Which is a very good goal haul for a winger. The reason why he is slated so much is because with better finishing, less showing off and better free kicks he could have scored 15 and been, hands down, the best player in league.

I have, like everyone else, been annoyed with him on occasion but to slate him purely because he has too much talent is moronic.

Even if he doesn't fulfill his potential he's the best winger in the league. Why we should replace him with someone with far less talent who plays to his potential, yet still doesn't produce as much as Ronaldo is beyond me.

I expect big things from him next season. We'll start the season with Saha as a first choice striker instead of Ruud, which should help bring Ronaldo into the game, like we saw in the second half of last season.
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Agree with this, but isn't this level still more than very acceptable for a 21 year old, to be the leagues most productive winger? And idiots who say he's shown no signs of improving are thick, haven't they watched his 3 year journey since he's been with us? I am in no doubt that he'll be one of the world's best, possibly the best in a few years. And thankfully, it seems Fergie isn't either.
 
Number7 said:
No he hasn't.

If you've read what he's typed and actually think about it then you'll realise most of it makes sense.

Ronaldo - Inconsistent, has shown minimal signs of improvement in a united shirt, doesn't want to be here, does NOTHING in the first half of a season, plays better with Portugal than he does with us and still plays for himself a lot of the time.
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WHAT ROCK DO YOU LIVE UNDER? :eek: cristiano lost his father in the first half of the season that's why his form was bad. Second half he was awesome. Stop slagging off one of our better players of last season.:nono:

Number7 said:
Remember the Benfica game? We were 2-1 down, heading out of the champions league and the little cnut decides to do 3 keepy uppies heading towards OUR goal...just to show off.
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For fecks sake he was 20 then. HE HASN"T MATURED!!!! Besides who in that game save for Van De Sar covered themselves in ANY glory?:smirk:

Number7 said:
Remember how he insulted Fergie by saying he never stuck up for him?
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Bullshit. Fergie NEVER stood up for him after the Rooney incident. That's true and NO insult. Ronaldo had every right to feel aggrieved. It probably cost him the world cup best young player award. (If Man Utd had defended him they way Bayern defended Hargreaves from English press and fan taunts I doubt FIFA would have had the will to rob him of his young player award)

Number7 said:
He has the potential to be a very good player...but he'll never be as good as he can be. We've been saying 'he's young, give him time to improve' for 3 years now. That'd be fine if he'd have shown good signs of improvement but he hasn't really.
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you really are utterly eyeless. Ronaldo is far better a player than the day he walked in at OT and is one of the best in Europe yet at 21 he is FAR from a finished article. Only common sense tells anyone that if he is this good now, how much better will he be when he has matured in 4 years time? Same goes for Rooney? How good do you think he will be? If you can't see your argument is wack you need your head examined.
Number7 said:
It's a matter of time before he goes to Madrid so it would make sense to get rid of him asap and bring in a replacement. Lennon would, imo, bring more to our first team than Ronaldo has been doing.
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You are stupid period! Lennon isn't even a 12th of Ronaldo in effect or talent. WHAT THE feckS WRONG WITH YOU??????:eek:

Number7 said:
Never going to happen though as Ronaldo won't be sold...yet.
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Finally you right some sense and then spoil it with the word "yet" what a pity:lol:
 
I can't even be arsed to reply to that.

you really are utterly eyeless
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:lol: That's good though.

On Par with 'you feck off twice per second'
 
Lennon isn't ready for a big move yet he still has so much to learn but the potential is there, Spurs are perfect for him at the moment. To compare him to ronaldo is ridiculas, Ronaldo is streets ahead of him but like any other winger will have bad games and games where he plays more for himself than the team. Ronaldo has obviously been a bit stupid with his comments but i would still like to see him in a Utd shirt at his peak because he is going to be one of the worlds top players.

As for rooney beinf better than Henry, well he isn't quite there yet but imo will be alot better when he fufils the massive potential he has, i also believe Ronaldo to have this potential if he too continues to develop. On a personal note i would say even now i would prefer having Rooney in the team over Henry
 
How about a no?

Ronaldo is known world-wide.

You go to America and Asia, they won't know Lennon unless they're football fans.
 
Bring back AARONTHERED!
 
dicko said:
Rooney is a very mature footballer in that he plays for the team. He is immature as a person because he loses control of his emotions. Ronaldo is immature as a footballer because he wants to show off on the pitch. There are different types of maturity.

My dream is that Fergie has told Ronaldo that the next few months could be the most crucial of his career. If he puts his head down and plays for United rather than himself he will be welcomed back with open arms. United fans will protect/support him in the same way we did Cantona, Beckham and Keane. He has a great opportunity to grow as a person and as a player.
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Well said that man.
 
yeaher said:
Yeah if he lives up to his potential though United will be able to sell him for 30 million to a Spanish side, which they certainly arent offering now despite their desire for him.
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More like 50 million
 
AARONTHERED said:
Total pipedream, I know. It won't happen, as Fergie would sell Ronaldo for 5m, and Lennon would cost us 20m, probably.

But there's absolutely no way in hell Ronnie will finish his career here, and it's just as unlikely that he'll see out his entire contract here. With how unhappy he is with the club, his performance on the pitch will be even MORE inconsistant and off the pitch he'll just be getting more death threats that will make him even MORE emotionally unstable. I'm not saying put the players interests before ours and give him a break and sell him, not at all. I'm saying SELL him, and BUY a great, future english star like Lennon.

Why not sell him now and sign Lennon, before he turns out to be a great winger, where his price will inflate more than it likely already is?

maybe I'm putting too much stock in lennon after his world cup performance, but I think it would be a wiser option for this season, and in the future, for all parties. Except Tottenham, of course
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:lol: that will teach a lesson to cnuts like these and serve as a warning to all wankers who attempt such jokes. Watch it, you Giggs critics, you know who you are :D
 
Davo said:
He was your best goalscorer...and is a better goalscorer than any player you currently have.

You've overspent on one midfielder so far....we've improved our squad throughout.

Christ knows how much more successful we'll be than you this year, now we haven't got first round qualifiers and World Club tournaments to worry about....
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:lol:
 
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