How did Davo manage half a million posts? 
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Lennon was pretty good when he first came onto the scene. However I think now premiership defenders have found out his style of play(constantly dribble towards the byline even if you can dribble through the middle) and he's pretty average now.
How did Davo manage half a million posts?
You might want to go back and see where you have gone wrong there popper...
How did Davo manage half a million posts?
good question
You might want to go back and see where you have gone wrong there popper...
Check out his post count....It's been altered so our highest poster is a Liverpool fan.
Lennon is just so overrated. SWP part 2. His current rate of progress shouldn't come us a surprise
Good god chief, I agreed with you when this post started and again here ------ I am sorry if I've ruined your day
promise you can call me a moronic idiot again another day.Re-edit it to 689,908
wow, some of the posts on this were spasticated. absolutely cllueless when it comes to football knowledge. SAF knew weel what he had
He only turned 21 a few weeks ago, so it's not like he has no chance of progressing further. In fact it's fairly likely that he will.
Lennon has had a poor season this season, expecially compared to the one before that. However the team overall has had a below-par year so I fully expect him and Spurs to be much, much better next year.
Still one of the bargains of the century, £500,000 was it?
Still one of the bargains of the century, £500,000 was it?
Good god chief, I agreed with you when this post started and again here ------ I am sorry if I've ruined your day
I'm lostBut it's most likely that he wont. Because he doesn't posses more talent than SWP.
I don't want to enter a debate about whether or not he has more talent than SWP, but talent is by no means the only factor that determines whether a player will progress. Other important factors include:
* The manager(s) and coaches he works under.
* The team(s) he plays for, their style(s) of play and the amount of playing opportunities he gets.
* His age
* His attitude: i.e the degree to which he's willing to dedicate himself to improving.
It's a bold prediction to say (as you have) that it's unlikely that a 21 year old Lennon can develop further. I'd also call it rash and unwarranted.
I actually agree with it, I don't think Lennon is gonna get much better either
I would have to agree aswell, I could be proved wrong but I doubt it on this occasion
And no Glaston it's not bias involved
He is a Prem quality player just not top 8 in my opinion
Lennon is rubbish. He won't improve, neither will Walcott.
I fully understand where you are coming from and the reservations on the matter. But for me, from what I've seen, Lennon isn't as good as most think. He can't cross, his dribbling ain't that good neither is his shooting good either. All he has is speed. Just like SWP. When I add that to the fact Ramos & Poyet are no Wenger who are going to turn a very rough diamond into an absolute gem. Lennon's chances of improving further in my opinion, are not that high. Because he has had enough playing time in his best position, in a club that plays football that suits him down to the ground, to be at least as good as a Milner or a Bentley. Yet he isn't even close to both in effectiveness.
I think you're being harsh on SWP there. His move to Chelsea has gone horribly wrong, but unlike Lennon he has a lot more to his talent than just speed.
SWP and Lennon just arent good enough, they have some great qualities and might even make it in a top 4-4-2(which basically none of the top teams play now more like the 4-3-3) in that case they dont have the qualities, they might be great elsewhere but these would do best as English exports imo
He's already shown he can deliver good crosses - if I had the time I'd refer you to numerous video clips where he's done so. But he does need to do it with the required accuracy more often.
His dribbling is actually really good - very few players have such close ball control at speed, or can change direction so quickly. When he takes on a player 8 times out of 10 he either beats them or gains a free kick from being fouled.
What he needs to improve (crossing aside) is his decision-making as to what to do with the ball and his composure and confidence in front of goal. At just 21 years of age there's no good reason why these aspects of his game can't improve.
Ramos is highly rated as a manager right across Europe, which is why Spurs went through so much trouble to get him. He's already had a positive impact for us. We shall have to wait and see what develops from here onwards, with his first pre-season at Spurs coming up and a whole season at the helm to follow.
I doubt you know enough about Ramos to justify your apparent low opinion of his ability to improve players and get the best from him.
His crossing is piss poor for a winger. Too erratic. In addition don't give me he needs more games as an excuse. He has been a starter since age almost 18 on the wing. So if he hasn't exhibited any signs of crossing consistency by now I don't see where he will start getting it from. I know enough wingers who are English who have already exhibited this by age 21. Lennon like SWP hasn't.
If that was remotely true he would be amongst the most fouled players in the EPL. Because Spurs is such an attacking side. I have good reason to doubt that he is. You grossly overrate his dribbling ability. It is just okay. Not special by any means.
I have never said any where he is shit for you. Or a shit player to be fair. All I've said from the start is he isn't as good as most people make out. He will be a decent proffesional. Just like SWP. The only difference is unlike SWP he will be at club that will allow hi to mature properly as a player. But he will never be in the bracket of people lie Messi as some think. I doubt he will even reach a Hleb's level. Those who think he will ever be good enough to replace Becks on England's wing, for example, need to know one thing. There answer is a resounding no.
Dude, I happen to follow Spanish football closely. So I obviously know enough about Ramos to know he isn't Wenger. Wenger is the one manger who stands out from the crowd. One who has got really rough diamonds like Song and turned them into decent players. Repeatedly. Wenger is a very rare breed. Most managers can't. Even SAF himself is in that category. So I'm not just picking on Ramos and Poyet when I say that
Walcott could turn out to be special imo.
I hate the cnut but people are just dismissing him too easily considering he is only 19.
Lennon will turn out to be decent.
I don't know the stats for individual players, but Spurs were the most fouled-against team in the Prem this season according to Opta. As for Lennon, I lost count of the number of times he was brought down simply because it was the only way the opposition player could stop him.
I dare say I've seen Lennon play more times than you, and his dribbling ability is a lot better than merely 'OK'. I repeat, when taking on a player he almost always gets past his man, usually with ease, or else is fouled as the only means of stopping him. I'd be hard pressed to name more than a handful of Prem players who dribble as well or better than Lennon.
I agree with this. But previously you'd said it was 'most likely' that Lennon will not improve further.
I know a good number who are far better dribblers than him. Trust me. I know an extremely good dribbler when I see one. Lennon isn't a great dribbler. Not by a long shot. And don't think for one second I'm some one who has watched him just once in a while. I've watched him enough times to judge his overall ability. As I've said before. I wait to be proved wrong on this one. To see the special quality of Lennon, that many claims he has to shine through, in a break out season for him. Thus far, his lack of progress as a player has only re-enforced my views on him.
Actually I haven't changed my original view either. For some curious reason I reposted what you said without proper quote punctuation.
I apologise for being so misleading.No disrespect to Arsenal, we wish he can do the same to the players from British Isles.
Rather than trust you, perhaps you could name a few.
We're not big on trust here on the internets. You're probably not even an Indian Chief, are you? Didn't think so.
Lennon is a decent player BUT one that chose to go to London at the wrong stage in his career. There he will just end like most other promising young English players in London, flattering to deceive. Players like Lampard, Joke Hole and Terry are exceptions to the rule largely because of strong non nonsense managers like Ranieri (whatever his public image maybe he's a ruthless operator behind the scenes) and Mourinho.
Lennon should've looked at players like Ferdinand,Barnes and Andy Cole who the move from down South gave their respective careers a massive boost.
I for one won't go as far as the Chief in dismissing his qualities altogether.I think he is good, has age on his side, has searing pace BUT needs the right people and environment around him to progress and fulfill his true potential. Sadly though I don't think Spurs and London can provide that.
Lennon should've looked at players like Ferdinand,Barnes and Andy Cole who the move from down South gave their respective careers a massive boost.
I for one won't go as far as the Chief in dismissing his qualities altogether.I think he is good, has age on his side, has searing pace BUT needs the right people and environment around him to progress and fulfill his true potential. Sadly though I don't think Spurs and London can provide that.
Here goes: Hleb, Clichy, Evra, Petrov, Ronaldo..and that's just for starters..........
hee hee
Agreed
I am with chief on this one. His footballing attributes are pretty poor. He has just one trick to beat the man. There is only so much you can rely on pace.
Lennon really needs to kick on next season. In hindsight this thread wasn't the best of ideas
bump
why? You already bumped the other Lennon thread.
Think the other one was only started last month, so didn't really need bumbing and it wasn't me that 'bumbed' it in anycase. Although I have commented on it. Thought it was funny that the title of this thread may now actually happen.
and still isn't
Hypothetical question as we don't actually know the figures clubs are willing to accept but £20m for Valencia or £20m for Lennon???
Im glad the muppets who start these kind of posts tend to feck off after a while and the quality posters like Chief Torn Rubber stick around.