For what it's worth, the small amounts of highlights I've seen from him were quality. A Carrick-clone if I've ever seen one.
Sean Longstaff
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Have you ever watched a full game where Longstaff has played?
He has 9 PL games ever.
Tielemans is a lot better but Longstaff might turn out better but he's already 21 and might very well not improve much further.
You wouldn’t die of laughter you’d think oh sh*t this lad must be good. Same as if they got the lad from Benfica for £100m+. Totally pointless comparing other players and values non of that matters it’s about getting the right players in with the right quality. If he’s £50m and plays CM for us for 10 years plus it’s pocket change. If £25m is pocket change then £50m’s a note. Let’s focus on the player and ability not price tag who cares about the price
Fred/McT imo.Then who replaces Herrera?
Everything will be clearer by next month. But the potential Longstaff signing has no correlation to Pogba.Then who replaces Herrera?
Yeah I think the same from the highlights, very similar to Carrick in style. Seems to have a really good strike on him too.
Long term replacement for Matic. Great prospect that could give us 10 years trusty service..
£50m for a player that has nine appearances in the Prem?
This reminds me of the kind of desperation that had us pay stupid money for Anthony Martial. Except that Martial actually had had far more game time with Monaco.
This reminds me of the kind of desperation that had us pay stupid money for Anthony Martial. Except that Martial actually had had far more game time with Monaco.
Then who replaces Herrera?
We don't need one. Our midfield balance is all over the place, in my opinion. In McTominay, Fred and Pereira, we have three players who can replace Herrera. Maybe not to the same level, but the aforementioned players are box to box midfielders.
What we haven't got, apart from Matic, is holding midfielders. Someone to sit in front of the back four.
Now I personally feel we should have got a top holding midfielder like Ndidi and phased out Matic. However, if we are to get Longstaff, it seems that we will rotate both of them in that role, with one of McTominay/Fred next to them.
Now, on paper it doesn't look the most exciting, but I don't think it needs to. We need players with energy, who can distribute, and McTominay and Fred, for example, showed they can do that against PSG.
Going into next season, I know most people won't be happy, but I reckon we'll have:
Matic/Longstaff (Holding) - McTominay/Fred (Box to box)
The same Martial that won the Golden Boy Award the year we bought him and had a call-up to the French National team?
Yeah, Martial with 49 games for Monaco and Longstaff with 8 games for Newcastle are very comparable.
I'm sure this has been said, but am I the only one, who when they hear the phrase "preparing a bid" imagines Ed and his cronies huddled round an old crt going... "is it 'To Whom, or To Who it may concern?'", "should we go with Comic Sans? I think Comic Sans is friendlier.", "One x at the end or three? Can't go two, two has certain connotations."
It’s as if sky are taking the piss with their tweets. Swear they’ve tweeted we’ve been ‘preparing a bid’ about 5 times.
I don't think it'll be anywhere near 50M, but if Longstaff was to come and make a similar impact to what Martial made in his first game, then it'll be money well spent.
Still gives me goosebumps.
Takes a lot of time to prepare a bid.
Most impartial observers' jaws dropped when we were willing to complete the £58m deal to bring Martial from Monaco four years ago.. that's FOUR YEARS AGO ... the highest transfer fee paid for a teenager.
£36m upfront, with one £8.7m bonus clause (scoring 25 PL goals) being activated, actually.
The other two clauses are said to be very unlikely to be activated. One is for winning the Balon D’or.
Jaws might have dropped, but he scored 18 goals and assisted 11 in his first season. What other United player has come close to that output in the last 3/4 years?
I have watched Longstaff on a number of occasions. I thought he was very good against City and Chelsea.
Tielemans is very good on the ball as a advanced playmaker. But without the ball he would require two very good defensive minded midfielders which is why I think we're not in for him.
Alright, and there’s been no update. So why tweet it again?
What if he doesn't surpass Jonjo Shelvey in terms of ability? 50 M's on a player who is yet to have a break through season is nuts. As far as I am concerned he has done nout and that is reasonable. Imagine buying someone for big money after 9 games. We may as well do this with everyone. PSG should of bought Januzaj for 40 mill.
Imagine how good Longstaff’s YouTube compilation would be if he played more than 9 games last season?
The Times: Man Utd prepared to offer £30m for Longstaff.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...young-newcastle-star-sean-longstaff-6khgb3nr0
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...young-newcastle-star-sean-longstaff-6khgb3nr0
He’s 21 and might not improve very much further? Are we honestly at the point where people believe 21 is the finished article?
Shouldn't he be with us already...heard its almost done from many sources.
No formal bid yet so no not almost done. Obviously we don't know what conversations are going on between the two clubs outside the public arena.
Is he being brought in as "one for the future"?
Yes and no, he’d expect to play a fair few games, otherwise why would he move? He’s a NE lad remember. But he’s certainly not going to be starting at first.
Why not? He could walk into our current midfield to be honest.
Off the back of an injury and it’s a big jump from 9 games at Newcastle, to starting CM/DM at United. Even though those games were very good.
He's ready for a full pre season, the injury was a long time ago now. And he had 13 apps no? He can walk into our side. Tielamans had a very small amount more premier league experience than he has.
Based on that 9 games he is already better than Fred, McT, Matic....?
Fred had less than 9 good league games all year. McTominay himself found his way in without prior premier league experience. Matic can't hack all games, quite obviously.
£80m should get this over the line
We paid almost 20 million for Dalot, Longstaff has played a lot more than him. No idea what Martial has to do with anything, as didn't get Martial for around the 25 million mark like Longstaff will be. Plus it was 4 years ago and transfer fees are far more crazy now. Plus Martial is an attacking player, who will come with a premium.
How can it be done when we aren't even done preparing the bid?
Amazing that a guy with 9 games to his name is worth 50M but a player who scored 34 goals and looks overall a better player is too much for 70M.
I know I made the Bruno comparison in market price but in general the players in the EPL are so overpriced for bang average quality.
I know I made the Bruno comparison in market price but in general the players in the EPL are so overpriced for bang average quality.
Let's be honest, we tend to focus on the flaws of our own players, and the strengths of others.
If Longstaff becomes a United player he'll be judged way more harshly, as will all the other players we've signed. If even the likes of Pogba and De Gea can't escape it, then there's no way Longstaff will.
With that being said, it's best to be realistic about the lad's level, so that the disappointment isn't massive if he does indeed sign for us. Same goes for all our other (potential) signings tbh.
If Longstaff becomes a United player he'll be judged way more harshly, as will all the other players we've signed. If even the likes of Pogba and De Gea can't escape it, then there's no way Longstaff will.
With that being said, it's best to be realistic about the lad's level, so that the disappointment isn't massive if he does indeed sign for us. Same goes for all our other (potential) signings tbh.
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Bang average players from a league that dominated Europa and Champions League
Longstaff won't cost 50 million, lets not forget we paid 45 million for AWB, after numerous 70 million claims attributed to Palace. I really don't know why people buy into press gossip so much. Oh and 'worth' is whatever someone is prepared to pay, United are 'supposedly' looking at a 20 million ish deal, so Newcastle won't be getting 50 million as he's not 'worth' it currently.
A whole lot of nothing in this thread.
Everything papers say should not be taken seriously.
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