Scott McTominay | Transfer discussion not performance discussion

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croadyman said:
That's the part which makes it not believable
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I think it is just a turn of phrase. It is very common to share medical data during negotiations before a formal bid is placed, the selling team will have a wealth of physical information on hand that they can share which can speed up the process but I have never heard it referred to as a long distance medical, it is just sharing basic medical information the team has collected in the course of day to day management of the player.
 
Who is the best source for West Ham transfers,can anyone shed any light on this one
 
My asking fee for both would be at 30m, and I would accept any offer for 25m each.
 
EricEricDjembaDjemba said:
In 2021 United signed Varane, who at 28 was 2 years younger than Maguire is now, had won 4 Champions Leagues and 3 La Ligas, was a starting international, and had a much, much better public perception regarding playing skill than Maguire does currently, for £34 million.

Maguire will not command a fee close to £45 million.
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Didn't he have 1 year left on his contract?
 
typical caf. players are utter dogshit, lets get rid. but hold on, we want a gazillion pounds each for them.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Maguire having 1 year left would probably be actually a bonus point in his sell value.. his wages are mind boggling for his quality
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I actually think he's a very good defender. He's just not good enough for us (or at least our aspirations). I don't think his club form has differed greatly from his time at Leicester, just perceived very differently as every mistake he's made with us has been highlighted and dragged through media/social media.

Also for our fan base we see it all, every minute and we know he's not at level we require.
 
Red in STL said:
I assume you pocket your wages and never make any mistakes at work - yes?
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My job doesn't pay me for waking up and sitting at my desk. Instead of jibing why don't you answer why Maguire deserves plaudits for being "professional"?
 
RedBanker said:
My job doesn't pay me for waking up and sitting at my desk. Instead of jibing why don't you answer why Maguire deserves plaudits for being "professional"?
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I never said he did, but because he earns millions some appear to think it's OK to abuse him just because of that and the fact that he isn't necessarily as good as he needs to be
 
greater wall said:
If Rice is worth 105m then McTominay is worth 60m. I expect 40m is what teams will pay for him.
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I would feel very disappointed if I sold one of the most promising midfielders in Europe and had to spend 60% of his fee to replace him with a vastly inferior player who is also 3 years older and probably doesn’t have much room for growth.

If anything £30m sounds excessive already.
 
Sarni said:
I would feel very disappointed if I sold one of the most promising midfielders in Europe and had to spend 60% of his fee to replace him with a vastly inferior player who is also 3 years older and probably doesn’t have much room for growth.

If anything £30m sounds excessive already.
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Yeah. Club like West Ham need to consider resale value. And considering his age, there's no resale value for McTom for West Ham.
 
reddevilz007 said:
No very high demand for him, good luck with those numbers
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EtH isn't trying to sell McT so there's no reason there should be any demand.

We've said he's available if somebody offers big money, ie. more than he's worth. Otherwise, we're happy to keep him. A replacement would cost >£40m, so there's no point.
 
Sarni said:
I would feel very disappointed if I sold one of the most promising midfielders in Europe and had to spend 60% of his fee to replace him with a vastly inferior player who is also 3 years older and probably doesn’t have much room for growth.

If anything £30m sounds excessive already.
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Disagree, I'd say 30 million sounds absolutely bog standard for a good PL footballer. Why should be sold for 25% or lower of what Rice went for? They've got the money to spend and I think the club should be holding out for 30-35 as a minimum expectation due to the fact we know they have the money. Otherwise keep him around the squad. No bother for us.
 
If we get an offer of 40m for McT we should bite their hands off. I like McT personally but i would accept a much lower value for him (anything north of 25m), and based on the views of the caf on his performances over the past few years, am surprised at the lofty valuations many have.
 
If we could get 60m in total from Wesf Ham for both McTominay and McGuire , I would take it. Likely be under 50m for the pair..
 
EricEricDjembaDjemba said:
In 2021 United signed Varane, who at 28 was 2 years younger than Maguire is now, had won 4 Champions Leagues and 3 La Ligas, was a starting international, and had a much, much better public perception regarding playing skill than Maguire does currently, for £34 million.

Maguire will not command a fee close to £45 million.
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How long was left on Varane's contract when that deal was made?
 
captaincantona said:
Not really sure about issues with what we should or should not get for these guys.

Both are looking at minor minor roles next season unless we have serious injury problems at centre back and midfield. They would also be a significant downgrade on the injured players were that to happen. In that regard, we should be getting rid and certainly in Maguires case getting his wages off the books.

even If we got €50million for both, it’s excellent business as opposed to hanging on to an ever depreciating asset that provides zero on hand value.

Amrabat and Evans are basically cheaper upgrades. They lower the wage bill and would allow for player like Mainoo, Gore, Hannibal to be integrated or a young CB to be brought in and slowly introduced. That’s good structure. That’s good planning.
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Evans is not an upgrade, especially considering his injury record.
 
M Bison said:
If we get an offer of 40m for McT we should bite their hands off. I like McT personally but i would accept a much lower value for him (anything north of 25m), and based on the views of the caf on his performances over the past few years, am surprised at the lofty valuations many have.
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ETH doesn't want to sell him so we won't accept 25m for him.
 
AndySmith1990 said:
How do you know?
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Club has been briefing this all summer. We are actively seeking to sell certain players such as Fred and Telles whereas Scott has been mentioned only as someone we would consider selling for a really good price. He has his uses as a squad player so ETH is more than happy to keep him but does not value him so much that he would block a sale if it provided enough cash to go buy someone he rates higher.

Donny and Fred leaving is meant to be enough to free up funds for Amrabat so would have to assume if Scott goes that might be the trigger for us to enter the race for someone like Lavia but clearly a fee in the region of 25M won't cover a signing like that and will leave us light a body in midfield.
 
Sarni said:
I would feel very disappointed if I sold one of the most promising midfielders in Europe and had to spend 60% of his fee to replace him with a vastly inferior player who is also 3 years older and probably doesn’t have much room for growth.

If anything £30m sounds excessive already.
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Well, for starters they should have seen this coming. Rice was leaving and they didn't plan properly. Now overspend.
 
Canuckred64 said:
If we could get 60m in total from Wesf Ham for both McTominay and McGuire , I would take it. Likely be under 50m for the pair..
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Seemingly coming to the end of his four year stint here, and some still can’t spell his name correctly.

The legacy of Harry McGuire.
 
golden_blunder said:
The gap between anyone and TAAs level of crossing is enormous. Let’s compare our fullbacks to him because he is the exception. Most wingers wouldn’t meet that comparison
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Agree. He’s a midfielder masquerading as a right back. Kimmich, Bernardo Silva (ha!), hell if memory serves Fabinho came up as a right back, no? For my money, I’ll take a Trippier type — very solid defensively but also puts a great ball into the box. Who knows, if Beckham came up in this era, would he have been a right back???

I’m not complaining about our right backs. They massively improved last season. Neither one is even a passable crosser of the ball, but they both can do what Ten Hag wants them to, so it’s fine for me.
 
worldinmotion66 said:
If they’re buying these two, they really need to get ward prowse over the line too. The set piece threat would be off the scale.

I think it’s something that we’ve got to consider defensively too. Varane is the only defender we have that has physical presence in our box if Maguire leaves, Casemiro is good in the air too. But beyond that we’re pretty weak comparatively speaking.
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I was actually quite disappointed in both Maguire and Scotty in the air. Yes, they are tall, but neither really produced in set piece situations in terms of goals. The Ward-prose plus Soucek combo will be deadly though. Soucek just has an incredible knack for finding the ball in those set piece situations.
 
M Bison said:
If we get an offer of 40m for McT we should bite their hands off. I like McT personally but i would accept a much lower value for him (anything north of 25m), and based on the views of the caf on his performances over the past few years, am surprised at the lofty valuations many have.
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He’s not going to get any matches (fingers crossed no injuries). Better sell him now and get what we can. For Maguire, I say take 20 or 25m. Get him off the wage bill. 50m on those two will allow us to strengthen elsewhere, maybe another CB and MF or veteran CF.
 
Posh Red said:
Seemingly coming to the end of his four year stint here, and some still can’t spell his name correctly.

The legacy of Harry McGuire.
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Harry McGuire, Christian Ericksson, Rasmus Hojland, Anthony, Erik Bailley, Bruno Fernandez, Anthony Marshall. A shame we didn't buy Roberto Firminho.
 
DSG said:
I was actually quite disappointed in both Maguire and Scotty in the air. Yes, they are tall, but neither really produced in set piece situations in terms of goals. The Ward-prose plus Soucek combo will be deadly though. Soucek just has an incredible knack for finding the ball in those set piece situations.
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Maguire is usually positioned past the back post to head the ball across rather than try and score from distance, at that he's relatively successful - it's obviously a tactic that's been planned
 
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