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2023-24 Performances


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Playing against Switzerland is the highest stage? Well done to him for scoring, but 70% pass accuracy with just 20 passes, 0 tackles and 1 interception

Another time he scores one goal and people go over the top

This is an example where stats dont show the whole picture. Anyone who watched that match could see he was the best player on that pitch yesterday. Completely nullified Xhaka and was a vital part of anything positive from Scotland.
I think United need to sell McTominay but he was excellent last night.
 
Playing against Switzerland is the highest stage? Well done to him for scoring, but 70% pass accuracy with just 20 passes, 0 tackles and 1 interception

Another time he scores one goal and people go over the top

70% pass accuracy for Mctominay is pretty high for him tbf, which is saying something.
 
This is an example where stats dont show the whole picture. Anyone who watched that match could see he was the best player on that pitch yesterday. Completely nullified Xhaka and was a vital part of anything positive from Scotland.
I think United need to sell McTominay but he was excellent last night.

How did he nullify Xhaka who had over 2 times as many passes as him, and 81.5% accuracy?
 
70% pass accuracy for Mctominay is pretty high for him tbf, which is saying something.

That might be true for Scotland I dont know, but at United he usually has high pass accuracy because they're 95% of the time the most simple pass possible but there arent many passes, 81.5% was his average for last season and 30.6 passes. So 20 is even less than normal at United
 
How did he nullify Xhaka who had over 2 times as many passes as him, and 81.5% accuracy?

Did you watch the match?
If you did you would have seen how his positioning and pressure forced Xhaka to do mostly side- and backwards passes or passes to team mates that where in pess favorable positions.
 
Did you watch the match?
If you did you would have seen how his positioning and pressure forced Xhaka to do mostly side- and backwards passes or passes to team mates that where in pess favorable positions.

No it didnt. He wanted to play passes to keep the ball and Switzerland had the majority of possession. They scored a goal that didnt take a huge deflection like McTominay's and Ndoye missed when through on goal. Thats why they didnt get all 3 points. Not because McTominay was standing somewhere so Xhaka could "only" dominate possession for his team.
 
People will always try and discredit the good things McTominay does, hence why it's feel even better when he scores or puts in a good performance.

Clarke pushed him higher up the pitch yesterday, which I felt was a good idea. Should have possibly done that against Germany, and just like he did a job nullifying Rodri in the FA Cup Final, he could have potentially done a job on Kroos like he did with Xhaka yesterday. In addition to that, we all know how much of a goal threat he offers, and was unlucky not to get a couple more yesterday.
 
People will always try and discredit the good things McTominay does, hence why it's feel even better when he scores or puts in a good performance.

Clarke pushed him higher up the pitch yesterday, which I felt was a good idea. Should have possibly done that against Germany, and just like he did a job nullifying Rodri in the FA Cup Final, he could have potentially done a job on Kroos like he did with Xhaka yesterday. In addition to that, we all know how much of a goal threat he offers, and was unlucky not to get a couple more yesterday.

You say this like he didnt have a shot that the keeper was easily taking until a defender deflected it into his own net.
 
McTom is a better finisher than Walcott.
 
No it didnt. He wanted to play passes to keep the ball and Switzerland had the majority of possession. They scored a goal that didnt take a huge deflection like McTominay's and Ndoye missed when through on goal. Thats why they didnt get all 3 points. Not because McTominay was standing somewhere so Xhaka could "only" dominate possession for his team.

I don't get your point apart from the obvious: you just want to hate on McTominay. The Swiss goal was also a freak goal with a bad misplaced pass and an incredible finish.

Scotland also had some good opportunities, though maybe not as clear-cut as the N'Doye one.

Xhaka was their man of the match in the first game, wouldn't call him that for yesterdays game.
 
No it didnt. He wanted to play passes to keep the ball and Switzerland had the majority of possession. They scored a goal that didnt take a huge deflection like McTominay's and Ndoye missed when through on goal. Thats why they didnt get all 3 points. Not because McTominay was standing somewhere so Xhaka could "only" dominate possession for his team.

Nah Xhaka wanted to play more deep passes and he was largely kept from it. Swiss main threat was their wings on the left side pressuring Ralston. Down the center they offered nothing.
 
This is an example where stats dont show the whole picture. Anyone who watched that match could see he was the best player on that pitch yesterday. Completely nullified Xhaka and was a vital part of anything positive from Scotland.
I think United need to sell McTominay but he was excellent last night.
It would be a fecking travesty if we sold him and retained Mount. Not to bash Mount any further but McTominay has been the better player.

You also need some players who are brought up through the club with leadership potential that set the standards for what is and isn’t expected in the dressing room. I think he has that leadership potential and at that age where it shows. Unlike rashford, he doesn’t sulk or only show up when the times are good.
 
Nah Xhaka wanted to play more deep passes and he was largely kept from it. Swiss main threat was their wings on the left side pressuring Ralston. Down the center they offered nothing.

He played 54, 4 less than Schar who had the most in the match. Scotland's most was 51 from their CB
 
I don't get your point apart from the obvious: you just want to hate on McTominay. The Swiss goal was also a freak goal with a bad misplaced pass and an incredible finish.

Scotland also had some good opportunities, though maybe not as clear-cut as the N'Doye one.

Xhaka was their man of the match in the first game, wouldn't call him that for yesterdays game.

My point is it was more of what we saw from McTominay this season - in one of his weaker performances, but where he got a goal. I cant remember any goals he scored for us this season where he had a shot straight at the keeper who was about to catch it and the defender put it past his own keeper. So maybe worse.

He got on the scoresheet, luckily. He didnt win the ball, at all. He had a hard time passing the ball. Thats not a good attacking midfield performance. Its a lucky one

Anyone who thinks thats good is the problem and why we were the 8th best team in the league.
 
He played 54, 4 less than Schar who had the most in the match. Scotland's most was 51 from their CB

Yes? Thats meaningless when the whole tactic from Scotland was to let Swiss have the ball and then pressure them to make mistakes. Switzerland had possession but was very ineffective with it. A large part of that is due to Mc T's movement.
 
Yes? Thats meaningless when the whole tactic from Scotland was to let Swiss have the ball and then pressure them to make mistakes. Switzerland had possession but was very ineffective with it. A large part of that is due to Mc T's movement.

It wasnt their tactic to let Switzerland have the ball. They couldnt have dominated the ball if they wanted to

Despite being "infeffective" they scored a much better goal than Scotland and had Ndoye through on goal but he put it wide when he should be putting it between the width of the posts
 
It wasnt their tactic to let Switzerland have the ball. They couldnt have dominated the ball if they wanted to

Despite being "infeffective" they scored a much better goal than Scotland and had Ndoye through on goal but he put it wide when he should be putting it between the width of the posts

They literally started the game by booting it down to the swiss players. Their goal was a great strike by Shakiri on a defensive mistake from Scotland. Not due to some brilliant Swiss passing play.
 
They literally started the game by booting it down to the swiss players. Their goal was a great strike by Shakiri on a defensive mistake from Scotland. Not due to some brilliant Swiss passing play.

Yes it was a great shot that beat the goalkeeper, not a defender putting the ball past their own goalkeeper when the goalkeeper was about to catch a shot straight at him. You can say it was a Scottish mistake to give the ball away but its always a mistake giving the ball away before the other team having a shot that beats the goalkeeper. The difference is that the Swiss goal came from putting the ball past the goalkeeper by the intention of the shot taker.

Anyone could have scored that McTominay goal, because it was the defender that scored it. Shakiri's goal was fantastic and requires someone who knows what they are doing

Scotland dont have the players to have more possession of the ball against Switzerland. Its that simple. If they had tiki taka players like Barcelona they would have tried to keep the ball. They dont. Its only the gameplan to let the opposition dominate the ball because they are the worse team with less quality. We aren't even talking about a team with incredible counter attack players like Madrid has used against Barcelona, or even at United like with Rashford etc.

The Swiss wanted to keep the ball and win the match. Without their defender putting a saved shot past their own keeper they would have done it. If Ndoye having done well to get the chance, gets his shot on target when through on goal they would have done it. They messed up both of those and thats why it was 1-1
 
Best player in that team. Thought McGinn would be that but seeing then playing in same team you can see the difference. Without McTominay, Scotland is pretty much Luxemburg or Faroe Islands.
 
Yes it was a great shot that beat the goalkeeper, not a defender putting the ball past their own goalkeeper when the goalkeeper was about to catch a shot straight at him. You can say it was a Scottish mistake to give the ball away but its always a mistake giving the ball away before the other team having a shot that beats the goalkeeper. The difference is that the Swiss goal came from putting the ball past the goalkeeper by the intention of the shot taker.

Anyone could have scored that McTominay goal, because it was the defender that scored it. Shakiri's goal was fantastic and requires someone who knows what they are doing

Scotland dont have the players to have more possession of the ball against Switzerland. Its that simple. If they had tiki taka players like Barcelona they would have tried to keep the ball. They dont. Its only the gameplan to let the opposition dominate the ball because they are the worse team with less quality. We aren't even talking about a team with incredible counter attack players like Madrid has used against Barcelona, or even at United like with Rashford etc.

The Swiss wanted to keep the ball and win the match. Without their defender putting a saved shot past their own keeper they would have done it. If Ndoye having done well to get the chance, gets his shot on target when through on goal they would have done it. They messed up both of those and thats why it was 1-1

Scotland had plenty of close calls as well where they where close.
The quality of the two goals is essentially a meaningless point. Especially given how many own goals we have seen this tournament. Actually getting in to a position where you can force a own goal is the important part.
 
Scotland had plenty of close calls as well where they where close.
The quality of the two goals is essentially a meaningless point. Especially given how many own goals we have seen this tournament. Actually getting in to a position where you can force a own goal is the important part.

It wasnt forced. Forced would be something like a run down the wing cutting a ball back and a defender putting it into his own net because he felt he had to do something and the striker would have tapped it in if he left it.

This was a shot going straight at the goalkeeper who was already holding out his hands not to save it, but to catch it comfortably. It was a complete brainfart from the defender

Regardless, can you tell me at what point Scotland were through onto the goalkeeper and missed?
 
You say this like he didnt have a shot that the keeper was easily taking until a defender deflected it into his own net.

This would be all well and good if he hadn't been smashing those kinds of chances in for Scotland all year (and a few for United too). The deflection is what made this one a goal but it's a typical McTominay goalscoring position regardless.

I'm not weighing in with those claiming he snuffed out Xhaka - clearly he didn't - but let's not pretend he's anything other than a real goal threat from midfield.
 
Can't believe we'll be seeing again next season.
 
The qualification around anything good that McT does is so petty. Guys (and gals) you saying something positive about a player you don't rate isn't going to change a thing, Ten Hag isn't reading the cafe and judging his squad strategy around comments in the player performance forum. It is ok to accept that McT had a good game instead of trying to find any angle to discredit any praise he gets, you can do that and still want him gone.

People are so committed to the idea of him having no value to Utd it has created tunnel vision around him. Sell him for the sake of selling him.
 
This would be all well and good if he hadn't been smashing those kinds of chances in for Scotland all year (and a few for United too). The deflection is what made this one a goal but it's a typical McTominay goalscoring position regardless.

I'm not weighing in with those claiming he snuffed out Xhaka - clearly he didn't - but let's not pretend he's anything other than a real goal threat from midfield.

He's a good goal threat. That one was lucky
 
that’s the problem with Scott, he has one half decent game every ten games and then is a championship midfielder for the rest of them.

He’s just a horrendous footballer that you might want at a team like Stoke.
It's just so difficult to just say something positive about this Man Utd player !
 
My point is it was more of what we saw from McTominay this season - in one of his weaker performances, but where he got a goal. I cant remember any goals he scored for us this season where he had a shot straight at the keeper who was about to catch it and the defender put it past his own keeper. So maybe worse.

He got on the scoresheet, luckily. He didnt win the ball, at all. He had a hard time passing the ball. Thats not a good attacking midfield performance. Its a lucky one

Anyone who thinks thats good is the problem and why we were the 8th best team in the league.
The problem is most of our squad are mid Premier Standard players, not just McTominay.
 
He's a good goal threat. That one was lucky

The finish going in with the deflection was lucky. Scoring that goal is statistically likely though, because he gets himself in that position and shoots well so much. And the number of other goals he scores like that proves it.
 
The finish going in with the deflection was lucky. Scoring that goal is statistically likely though, because he gets himself in that position and shoots well so much. And the number of other goals he scores like that proves it.

Not too many from his left foot where he scored from.
 
Was proper shite tonight.

No aggression or urgency from him was most surprising, expect the technical limitations but you would think he would be putting himself about in a game like that and he was just nowhere all game.
 
Was proper shite tonight.

No aggression or urgency from him was most surprising, expect the technical limitations but you would think he would be putting himself about in a game like that and he was just nowhere all game.

Was offside on the pass before, but missed a sitter at the end too. In general not surprising at all they finish bottom of their group with him not doing a lot

15 passes with 73.1% accuracy, 34 touches, 1 tackle, 0 interceptions, 3 aerials, 1 dribble

Disspossessed 3 times, Unsafe touches 5
 
Woefully average footballer. Indictment of the malaise around man utd that he's been at the club for so long.
 
It really impresses me that a player of his stature and build just refuses to want to ever take ownership of the ball. Fewest touches on the ball for Scotland after their striker today. So strangely impressive. And before anyone caveats this by saying he was playing further forward, it’s the same when he plays deeper anyway.
 
13 accurate passes. This wasn't Germany or Switzerland. 13 passes against a poor Hungary side. He needs moved on.
 
It really impresses me that a player of his stature and build just refuses to want to ever take ownership of the ball. Fewest touches on the ball for Scotland after their striker today. So strangely impressive. And before anyone caveats this by saying he was playing further forward, it’s the same when he plays deeper anyway.

And more to the point you arent going to get on the end of many goalscoring situations if nobody is able to buildup attacks.

With Scotland's lack of quality at this in the squad (Again I rate young Lennon Miller and would have had him in the squad) if McTominay has the quality to pass and progress play he needs to do it because it doesnt happen when he isnt. I havent seen anything from him in midfield to ever think that he does have that ability either.

If he plays as the furthest most forward player he's probably in the area he'll do best. He can win the ball in the air, he's usually quite happy to have physical contact and maybe win a foul or something and he'll be able to get in the box where hes able to finish sometimes. But he never gets picked as the forward. Even at the end of the season he was coming from deeper to support Bruno who was furthest forward
 
Sometimes you see average PL players really elevate themselves whenever they are the big fish in the small pond for their country. McTominay couldn't even come close to that.

I used to think he could be kept around as a decent squad player but I think now he's just so limited he can't even be that. You'd like to think we could get a decent enough fee for him (compared to a lot of our other deadwood) so hopefully he can be moved on this summer.
 
It was a typical Mctominay performance, today there was no goal to gloss over the limitations and fact he is often a passenger. He can finish but he serves up that kind of performance so often that even if he goes to someone like Everton he’d soon find himself on the bench.
 
United have gifted a career and comfort for life to McTominey. He isn’t a midfielder, he isn’t an attacker, he can’t pass, read the game, hasn’t got good positional sense, can’t receive the ball under pressure, can’t dribble and isn’t the most agile.

But under the right specific conditions, he might get you a goal despite contributing nothing else to the game outside of that.

How he is still playing for United at 27 is bonkers
 
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