It’s not a slightest touch, he wraps two (!) of his arms around the attacker and keeps them there for a stupidly long amount of time. Is the pen soft? Perhaps. Does he give the ref every right to give it? Sadly, yes. You can achieve the same result by using one hand and by letting go earlier — you just need to be smart about it.
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It was home advantage at play. While McT held on for too long, I felt the ref was convinced it was a foul by the overreaction by both the player and Chelsea fans. Whole game the refs were making strange homer decisions.
He could have lost us the game. No need for swinging out of players, just stick shoulder to shoulder. He knows he is big enough to beat him in the air, so just stick with him. We maybe could have got all 3points but for his stupid mistake.
How anyone can come away with the conclusion that the ref and home crowd influenced the penalty is bonkers when Scott literally grabbed the guy with both arms and held on to him even when he was already falling.
How anyone can come away with the conclusion that the ref and home crowd influenced the penalty is bonkers when Scott literally grabbed the guy with both arms and held on to him even when he was already falling.
You've probably bought into the slow motion replays like a sucker. There are many of these challenges every week in the Premier league. Our own captain does this fairly regularly too.I think Ten Hag agreed with the Fred substitution. He's not quite ready to use Iqbal or Garnacho (at least away at Chelsea), but I think Elanga would have just come on out left and Bruno stayed as a 10 for another 10 minutes or so even with Eriksen probably not being up to 90 minutes in the engine room.
And Maguire is a barometer of good defending now? There’s a reason why he’s dropped.
And there’s a lot of difference between grabbing players and letting them go versus Scott grabbing them even when they’ve started falling.
He fecked up and pretending it’s not his fault is stupid.
He was done, it was that simple. The issue wasn't that it was a foul or not - it's the fact refs let that type of challenge go as often as they don't. There needs to be consistency!
Nah you’re wrong here , yes it happens every week but the main issue was the ball was going to land directly in the space they were competing
Had it been flying back post it probably wouldn’t of been an issue
blatant penalty
He’s going down the second he feels anything. Not a pen
It’s obviously a penalty. I’m not really sure how anybody could argue against that
It is a pen. You don't understand the rules
Nah you're wrong here it's a confluence of factors like I've mentioned. May not have been given if at OT and opposition player gone down so dramatically. It's one of those gray ones in a non-binary decision for the ref. Add to that some bizarre homer decisions throughout the game.
Also has nothing to do with whether Maguire is a good defender. Point is he's gotten away with it.
McT shouldn't have created such a scenario sure.
100% this. If not for the handling Broja could have been there first and probably scored, it's a scoring chance denied. Clumsy challenge and a clear penalty and not sure why is anyone defending it, it is absolutely not the same when players get pulled with the ball nowhere near them.
My opinion is if he didnt head it, wouldnt have been a penalty. Its the advantage he gained from doing it that create the problem....
It’s a bunch of factors mentioned multiplied by the fact it was a clear foul and obvious pen
Why though? If you can't be critical about someone coming on as a sub in the 85th minute and giving away a penalty then when can you be critical? There's plenty of opportunities to defend McTominay, this ain't it.
I understand the rules. That challenge is made in every premier league game and while it’s “technically” a foul. 99/100 it’s never going to be given as a penalty. Just a very soft decision that is incredibly inconsistent agaisnt other challenges made across the league.
To be fair there were times when he literally smacked down the player and didn't get a foul. It's becoming a bad habbit, considering there's little consistency among refs he needs to be careful.
How anyone can come away with the conclusion that the ref and home crowd influenced the penalty is bonkers when Scott literally grabbed the guy with both arms and held on to him even when he was already falling.
By the book of course it’s a foul, but as many others have noted here that level of contact is almost never called in the box.
Why don’t we all be on the lookout for the next grab in the box and see how months pass by before it’s called again?
Why don’t we all be on the lookout for the next grab in the box and see how months pass by before it’s called again?
It’s fine margin mainly created by the inconsistent ruling among referees. He got punished this time because this referee gave penalty for it. That’s it. It could happen to anyone. He and the whole team will learn from it. The other day, Pereira of Fulham was punished in a similar incidence.
I don’tunderstand why people here makes big deal out of it.
I don’tunderstand why people here makes big deal out of it.
He has a tendency to use his arms too when tackling players to make sure they go down too. It’s hilarious how much he gets away with it.
Take up a different sport with rules that are easier to understand maybe
You cant put both of your arms on someone, then let them get in front of you like that. That makes it an obvious foul. 1 arm and able to keep goalside or level with the player and he might get away with it. But the player takes full advantage by leaning forwards showing that he would have the advantage to get on the end of a ball to that area, then he goes down
Where are the other 10 penalties a game for these offences?
Yet he still manages to be leading or close to leading the league in the yellow cards received stat
In how many of those other 10 incidents is the attacking player almost certainly going to be the one winning the ball and having a strong chance on goal? That, combined with just how blatant McTominay was with both arms wrapped around him, is what made this one a penalty. There is also contact with the legs to make it even worse.
I do agree that there is the occasional incident like this where they do manage to get away with it, but this one was much more blatant and worse than the vast majority of grabbing and holding that happens in the box. It crossed the line for where it actually should be a penalty.
Not sure how it’s a debate. He has both his arms around him.
I don’t disagree that it was soft but anyone claiming he “hardly touched him” are either blind or in denial. The boy is hugging him and not attempting to defend the ball. It’s a dark arts defense but only when your clever about it and know when to release.
You very much deserved the draw and I’m not even mad about the result. Without the penalty I don’t think your scoring, the pressure at the end came from their anger. Before that, no one looked like scoring.
It boggles the mind. Some supporters will defend their team/players to the extreme extent, which is beautiful to see in a way.
Scott has got himself marked by referees… after he hauled Jesus down with his arms in a wrestling tackle….absolutely stupid
Mctominay will be here for the next 5 years at least.
It's a soft soft penalty. Going by the book the ref is allowed to give it. But whats maddening is that plays like that happen several times during a match and most of the times they're not penalized.
Specially maddening after the Newcastle match where somehow the contact on Sancho wasn't a penalty according to the referee and VAR.
Specially maddening after the Newcastle match where somehow the contact on Sancho wasn't a penalty according to the referee and VAR.
I’d like to see how many pk’s are awarded by these shitbag referees in the PL this season. To the best of my knowledge only one so far, and at least one hundred matches have been played so far and we see bear hugs on corners kicks every single game.
Can't believe anyone would try to argue it wasn't a penalty when there isn't 1 person on this forum that wouldn't be screaming penalty if Mount had done that to Casemiro.
That penalty summed up Mctominay in a nutshell.
He could be a decent squad player for us but he's devoid of any football IQ and constantly gives away stupid fouls and gets himself booked easily.
He's basically a thick Darren Fletcher.
That penalty summed up Mctominay in a nutshell.
He could be a decent squad player for us but he's devoid of any football IQ and constantly gives away stupid fouls and gets himself booked easily.
He's basically a thick Darren Fletcher.
That's a penalty and no one should be shocked about it.
A penalty all day, every day. What mistakes other refs make has nothing to do with it, you shouldn't be able to MMA your opponent to the ground just because you can't deal with them in the air.
McTominay has to be smarter. You can get away with one arm across the player's path as you can sell it as jostling, using your body to nudge them, whatever it is to gain an advantage. You can't double arm grab with the hands, it's asking for a pen.
A disappointing moment considering he's played with more sense this year generally.
McTominay has to be smarter. You can get away with one arm across the player's path as you can sell it as jostling, using your body to nudge them, whatever it is to gain an advantage. You can't double arm grab with the hands, it's asking for a pen.
A disappointing moment considering he's played with more sense this year generally.
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I’ve seen some calls on social media for him to be deployed as an auxiliary striker against low block teams in certain scenarios.
I’m actually warming to the idea. Definitely not as a starter but as a plan B if we’re struggling to break teams down.
He started as a striker and has some attributes which you can see reflect that. He’s good in the air and can strike a shot well.
Wouldn’t be a bad option near the end of games if we’re chasing and can’t break down stubborn defences.
I’m actually warming to the idea. Definitely not as a starter but as a plan B if we’re struggling to break teams down.
He started as a striker and has some attributes which you can see reflect that. He’s good in the air and can strike a shot well.
Wouldn’t be a bad option near the end of games if we’re chasing and can’t break down stubborn defences.
The more I watch it, the less and less it looks like a foul. By the book it was a foul without question, but his arms did not bring Bro down.
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