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Good game today
His standards are so low that a decent performance seems great. Its a game where we barely had control and after the goal he dropped off when we need the midfield to maintain tempo and control on possession
Baffled by the huge praise to be honest. Fred’s defensive stats are off the charts for this game, meanwhile we are totally incapable of retaining possession and are played through with ease against bottom of the league teams.
He gives his all but definitely need to upgrade him imo. Fred needs to be partnered with a top level player, no doubt in my mind.
Not trying to p*ss on his parade, I like him, just don’t rate him as much as some.
Baffled by the huge praise to be honest. Fred’s defensive stats are off the charts for this game, meanwhile we are totally incapable of retaining possession and are played through with ease against bottom of the league teams.
He gives his all but definitely need to upgrade him imo. Fred needs to be partnered with a top level player, no doubt in my mind.
Not trying to p*ss on his parade, I like him, just don’t rate him as much as some.
Glad you find it funny, personally I prefer to see Manchester United hold their own against bottom of the league teams who are riddled with injuries.
thought he had a decent first half though. Lot of urgency about him, faded during the second half. Not sure why vdb hasn’t already taken his place
Yeah was mid game and I stand by it. He played some more forward balls as it progressed but there were easy forward balls he turned down, granted he definitely was not the only one.You made a post in the match thread about him turning down forward passes, which was utter nonsense. That might be the most progressive passing game I have seen from him.
Too many of us(include myself) only see and recognize what fits our pre established views.
Yeah was mid game and I stand by it. He played some more forward balls as it progressed but there were easy forward balls he turned down, granted he definitely was not the only one.
Scott is playing with a player in Fred who’s defensive output is as good as it gets (on his current form) and we get played through by every team in the league, if you think that’s good enough then fair enough keep giving him MOTM.
Yes they don't complement each other and it's also true when we have the ball. They both need a good 6 that doesn't mind staying in position, is press resistant and has a good passing range.Because he isn't a deep midfielder, especially with a positionally suspect, instinctive presser like Fred alongside him.
When you play in the pivot with a player that has more than three times as many defensive actions as you then I fully expect you to be able to play a few balls forward against a weakened Norwich team, so that doesn’t make me think he was MOTMFred's ball winning and pressing is as good as it gets, that doesn't mean he is an amazing defensive force, the same way that Carrick didn't need to make a ton of tackles to be very effective defensive shield.
Not trying to p*ss on his parade, I like him, just don’t rate him as much as some.
When you play in the pivot with a player that has more than three times as many defensive actions as you then I fully expect you to be able to play a few balls forward against a weakened Norwich team, so that doesn’t make me think he was MOTM
People are praising him for delivering a performance that was better than his average, but his average is way too low for this team imo.
He was our second best player today.
I’m not sure we are being harsh. I mean that was dreadful to watch, verging on sad, to not control any possession against that Norwich team who are missing players on top, just dreadful.I don't get it either. He was better than his showing against Palace and not the worst outfield player on the pitch, I guess that's seen these days as progress. Still a long, long way to go for McTominay.
It was a dreadful performance by the vast majority of our players though so i'm probably being harsh.
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Matic is the perfect player for us if he were 25. We have to get a top level player of that ilk, and Matic was that good.We need to upgrade him, I don't disagree, but he is currently the best option we have for that role. If Matic was a few years younger, easy decision, but he is the only alternative.
Sell Donny, bring in an actual alternative, or hopefully an upgrade in deep midfield.