I’m sure that death number was released earlier and was only 1? Now it’s 20.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I expect you've seen my post, but amazon.es have stock on next day delivery - and if you use amazon you can use any of their sites with the same login details.
We were doing well with testing but it's all changed now with only those at highest risk being tested, hence why WHO decided to have a go.
That said, I don't think WHO specifically had a go at us. They just said 'test, test, test'
UK Deaths to 55
It's just been updated.
Alternatively there's a lot of Facebook groups with people offering nappies and formula their kid has grown out of even in normal times. We've donated to people a good few times.
It was 1. Looks like different departments update with different figures. Noticed that in the USA, with so many different testing companies, the figure goes up continously throughout the day. Whereas most other countries seem to update once a day.
The french scientific panel advised an italian type of lockdown. We will know what the governement has decided in a dozen of minutes.
Feck.
Apart from the fact that Tom Hanks has probably had his one and only bite of Vegemite/Marmite whilst isolating. He plastered that on!
Are you in the south? Some of my family are in Nice, and they said the Italian border has closed. Seems a bit late to me.
Bon chance!
I'm in the south but in Occitanie.
'we're going to trust the public to listen to advice and act responsibly'
That's an astonishing abdication of duty.
Both a failure of leadership and also an insight into their mentality. feck everyone. If we don't tell them to do anything then it won't cost us a thing and it's all their fault.
That's an astonishing abdication of duty.
Both a failure of leadership and also an insight into their mentality. feck everyone. If we don't tell them to do anything then it won't cost us a thing and it's all their fault.
My workplace (a very small business) is telling us that the business will be staying open regardless, and while not directly saying staff have to come in, they are doing it in a way that almost guilt's you into coming even if you know it's the wrong decision overall.
They are also throwing around the usual lines such we won't be affected at our age, unless we have any existing conditions.
They are also throwing around the usual lines such we won't be affected at our age, unless we have any existing conditions.
It’s not that, they know exactly what they are doing by saying that. Insurance companies won’t have to pay out to businesses if the government doesn’t enforce closures.
What a load of bollocks that is. Hopefully they change that stance.
Bit of false hope. Then you realise the deaths are skyrocketing. That’s the true indicator, our attitude to testing is so woolly there’s no point looking at the infected number
So in France, 15 days stringent lockdown, no public gatherings at all and only essential shopping are allowed.
Edit: Also all reforms are stopped, the focus is on the pandemic.(I don't know what that actually means but thought that it was an interesting remark)
Edit 2: The EU is closing Schengen borders tomorrow.
Edit 3: Water, gas, electricity and rent bills are suspended. He also talked about 300bn to support companies but I don't remember what it is about exactly.
Edit: Also all reforms are stopped, the focus is on the pandemic.(I don't know what that actually means but thought that it was an interesting remark)
Edit 2: The EU is closing Schengen borders tomorrow.
Edit 3: Water, gas, electricity and rent bills are suspended. He also talked about 300bn to support companies but I don't remember what it is about exactly.
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Wonder how soon the England will follow.
One of the tables I had booked are here now. I've known them since they were teen-agers and now they are in their 20s. The subject of discussion is the government being stupid with these measures whilst we are trying to come out of recession, they think we should allow the spread and get it over with. None of these people understand the effects on ICUs, perhaps the government to publicise the effects on ICUs if infection rates go up.
Frustratingly, the GOV.UK and NHS pages are not updated with the new guidance a good hour and a bit after the presser. You'd think they get the small things right. People are going to go to check and wonder what the fuss is about. Still can't push staff towards that whilst there is a chance they might just check their e-mails before switch off for the evening.
Tell them you've got a dodgy lung
The Dutch strategy that was announced an hour ago:
- No total lockdown
- Building a "controlled herd immunity"
- Trying to reduce peak demand on healthcare, in other words "flatten the curve"
- Isolate those in higher risk groups: elders and people with other health issues
- No total lockdown
- Building a "controlled herd immunity"
- Trying to reduce peak demand on healthcare, in other words "flatten the curve"
- Isolate those in higher risk groups: elders and people with other health issues
We know that's not true given we're not supposed to let them know if we have mild to moderate symptoms. On the other hand clearly the ~10000 tests done in the last few days since the announced change in strategy haven't all been on people hospitalised with symptoms. It would be nice to have a more detailed breakdown of who is being tested and why but the important thing is that they they themselves have that info. Anecdotally I know they are testing some healthcare staff with mild symptoms. Evidently the odd famous person too.
Great simple video just uploaded from Vox.
Yeah, I could have phrased that better.
That was the end of my post but you put it more succinctly. Capitalism is fun.
I‘d expect them to enforce closures in the next couple of weeks. What they’re doing is pretty consistent with nudge theory that they like so much. Don’t be draconian and authoritarian straight away and you’ll get more patience from the public longer term.
Sacre bleu
I think it's more the point that under their party over the last 10 years, the underfunding of police and NHS has forced them into this 'ask' phase. He doesn't have the police on the ground to enforce anything practically.
While the US who has 5 times the population, pledges 50 billion.
*something* *somthing* TORY CNUTS *something* GLORIFIED EUGENICS *something*
When they were explaining the strategy (on live television) I was literally thinking to myself "wait a sec...isn't this Britain's strategy?".
Its very weird, mate. If it's a coincidence, it's a crazy one. But I have serious suspicions that this thing entered Europe much earlier than we suspected. Your symptoms sound more extreme than mine, but still, definitely unusual. My manager in work also spent around 1.5months flitting in and out of pretty heavy flu-like symptoms - she also says she's never been ill for that long with flu-like symptoms in her life. It's really weird.
What's the difference from what the British government are doing?
Can I just remind people how important it is to take a break from the information overload. It can be particular overwhelming and can affect your mood to be constantly reading these twitter 'facts and figures'.
Please take time out to relax. Do something you enjoy and stay rational and level-headed. When you want to read an article, scrutinise the source. Don't read too many articles at once.
Just a friendly reminder.
Please take time out to relax. Do something you enjoy and stay rational and level-headed. When you want to read an article, scrutinise the source. Don't read too many articles at once.
Just a friendly reminder.
I was trying to work out where your government sits on the conservative-liberal, left-right spectrum and gave up because of all the random parties in government and opposition.