You are right on this. The purrell people are infuriating. Also, I saw a nice idea earlier about helping out the elderly as well. Basically assign some time slots for them to shop.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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I must have read your post wrong, my bad mate!
Yeah, the more we can do to help the better. But I have to wonder why the supermarkets haven't enforced any limits. Maybe I'm being cynical, but they are booming right now...
God I hope that fecker on the right gets his ass kicked repeatedly for this.
The baggage, immigration and customs lines at Chicago looking jammed. 8 hour waits?They've really fecked up.
Would be such an amazing scenario for socialism and social-democracy if this turns out to be true. I don't think it will though.
No, but we will keep our fingers crossed that he has a severe case of it.
What you get when decisions are made hastily and without coordination. R0 is probably 10 in such scenario.
As I reread my post I can see how you read it that way. My bad!
It's an old drug and has a lot of side effects.
It's all good, we are all a little on edge to say the least. Time to stick together, even on an internet forum
Indeed!It's all good, we are all a little on edge to say the least. Time to stick together, even on an internet forum
This is why the West will struggle. Many people are too ignorant, arrogant or selfish to follow advice or even actual enforcements. Also, so many don't actually believe there even is a risk.
I mean, I had an idea that this was the case, but the one time in my lifetime where I feel like an event is being shared across most of humanity and all I can think is how fecking stupid can people be.
Give it a couple of weeks when people start dying in mass, and the 'brave' people will tunr into 'cowards'.
One of those things when I wish that media should lie. 50% mortality rate, especially for idiots. Stay home, you shitcnuts.
Any lockdown here would be resisted to start off with, hold for a couple of weeks, and then start to breakdown completely after one month.
People like these won't disappear. They'll simply get poorly for a few days then get stir fever and want to go out again.
The lady in the last tweet has a very self absorbed attitude.
But she's not alone in ignoring the threat. Every time my local newspaper makes a post about Coronavirus on Facebook it gets a bunch of 'laughing' reacts, followed by comments like:
Trevor McTurnipBarrow (5 mins ago) : "IM SICK OF HEARNG ABOUT THIS VIRUS IT WILL ALL BLOW OVER AND THE PRESS WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SCARE STORY"
Bob Gammon (3 mins ago): "LOL at the hysteria, just a flu"
Karen von Pushchair: (1 min ago) "every1 knws the chinese started it on purpose bt nw the rich leaders will all suvive the outbreak and profit frm the crisis wiv more chemtrail sprayin"
Sadly though as VdG says here below, so many don't think that way. Many don't even think it's a problem at all.
I have heard so much shit from customers the last few days the ignorance and pure lack of even the most minute acknowledgement there is a real danger is staggering and frightening to say the least. I've actually wanted to punch a couple who were just so fecking dismissive and holier than thou about it all.
I even had one guy get a round of applause for a rant he made that basically said this was a good thing. He called it pure Darwinism at its finest and a true survival of the fittest. It's culling the old and weak and it should be celebrated not feared. Even some old couples clearly in their late 70's or early 80's were agreeing. It was depressing and insane.
First thought:
What a selfish attitude, and sadly there are a lot of people like that.
Perhaps Trump, Jared, and Stephen Miller should've ironed out all the details and increased staffing for the new screening process before implementing it, rather than likely causing hundreds or thousands of additional cases, plus the secondary cases. Every one of these people likely needs to self-isolate for 14 days. Just staggering incompetence.
It's worst than selfish, it's criminal. Selfish would be just doing it and not caring. But that woman is part of a propaganda machine which wants her and people her age to do just that.First thought:
What a selfish attitude, and sadly there are a lot of people like that.
Murderers they all are.
If only the virus could only target crazies like that...
We have some, in this very topic just 2 weeks ago.
Customs at DFW are bad enough on a good day.
That’s turbocharging a breeding ground for viruses.
Only 2 things we need to concentrate on.
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Only 2 things we need to concentrate on.
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The curve is a good abstraction, but it is a partial lie: https://medium.com/@joschabach/flattening-the-curve-is-a-deadly-delusion-eea324fe9727
"Changing the behavior" and thinking to "what can I do to not infect the others" are the best advice someone can give and should be a moral code for the next couple of years when we are going to deal with the virus. Ultimately, the most realistic scenario seems to be that the virus will become endemic, so until we have efficient vaccines and anti-virals, I expect the world to be in partial lockdown. Initially, Wuhan/Italy scenario, to then relax a bit to China/South Korea scenario, but I don't see the life returning to 2019 for quite a long long time. And until then, everyone should do their share of being careful and changing their behavior.
On a related note, if people minimize going outside, for holidays, etc for the next 2 years or so, I wonder what are gonna be the effects on climate change and the carbon emission reduction.
Only 2 things we need to concentrate on.
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So simple yet brilliant at the same time.
I hadn't thought of that, it's like mother nature is forcing us to act on climate change.
Sleep well my American Friends
Somebody was beat up here yesterday for spitting.
Accentuate the positive.
Accentuate the positive.
But it demonstrates why slowing the spread is so important even if it is an oversimplification.
The public is even more distracted and jumpy than usual. If we all concentrated on those two things the outcomes will be much better.
At the worst the shit show won't be as bad as it could be.
Is it just me, or is this herd immunity plan from the UK a bit bonkers?
No, it's not just you.
it probably is a bit bonkers but the fact of the matter is this won’t be controlled anyway unless we go into a lockdown far beyond our capabilities and behavioural norms
It assumes we are gonna take it anyway, so let's just spread it over some time to not overwhelm the system. That some time needs to be a decade for it to happen without overwhelming the system.
In any case, it should not be (and it cannot be) a binary choice scenario between 'the nuts herd immunity' and the 'total containment'. The nuts option will put the number of victims to tens of millions, possibly hundreds of millions (worldwide). The total containment is likely impossible. This means that 'flattening the curve for as much as we can' by taking indefinite social distancing, leaving kids at home and taking online lessons for the next year or two and increasing personal hygiene. Still some people will die (likely in the millions) and the life would be much more boring than usual, but if we can build anti-virals this year and a vaccine this year, probably we can lower the risk of the disease to manageable levels by the end of next year, without having an apocalyptic scenario.
Only 2 things we need to concentrate on.
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It's good advice. It's how I'm having to approach it. I (oddly quite selfishly) fear giving it to my elderly parents or asthmatic brother far more than the difficulties I may suffer if I catch it myself.
Sainsbury’s have emailed me asking me not to panic buy.
Read a news report where a UK national tried to take off from India while he was awaiting the results of the COVID tests. He was in an Emirates flight assuming a connection to UK through Dubai. Now the Indian authorities have asked all 270 passengers onboard to be tested. The sad thing is, even if he passed on any infection, the results might not detect it at such an early stage. No idea why people behave like such idiots.
He should have stayed away from the airport, at the very least.
source: NDTV.COM
He should have stayed away from the airport, at the very least.
source: NDTV.COM
Yes, that came out right around the time I posted that. I stand corrected.
Shops asking people to not panic buy because that may create shortages will have the exact opposite effect, surely? It’s going to increase concern levels and people are going to hoard even more. Limiting the amount of items you can buy to 2 is the only way.