Fake news should be criminalised anyway.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Social order.
If the domestic population believes the lockdown is working well, they're more likely to be compliant even if it's actually working badly in reality.
Thanks, that seems to be it.
Unfortunately the misinformation directs them to pubs and that.
They have been deemed as very reliable.
People like that should be shamed. What is the need for fighting over bog roll whilst you've already got a full trolley of bog roll. fecking moron.
The poster you were responding to cited Gower who was specifically commenting on the herd immunity strategy so I'm surprised that's not what's being discussed. Anyhow you attempted to rebut the poster by showing what you felt to be the same chap being supportive of the tangentially related policy of not shutting down mass gatherings. Quite how you thought the sentence "the UK is likely to ban large gatherings soon...My current instinct is that it is a sensible thing to do" translates into an endorsement of a policy of not shutting down mass gatherings continues to elude me.
Evidently to reduce R0 below 1 will require severe disruption and an at least partial lockdown of the economy along with associated sanitary planning, work from home schemes, school closures, individual self discipline etc - an enormous sacrifice through which plenty will suffer. Gower's position and that of plenty of others is that this should be done "as quickly as possible". I'm not sure I agree with him, but his position remains opposed to that of the government and certainly not particularly supportive - as you had claimed.
The toilet paper thingy is surreal. Like a bad joke. Imagine making a movie or writing a book about the worst pandemic in a hundred years, and mentioning that people are hoarding toilet paper and fighting about it, with supermarkets selling only one to a person.
Everyone would have been ‘WTF, this makes no sense’.
To lighten the load a bit.
There'll be a chapter about this on wikipedia.
We bailed out the banks with at least 500billion in 2008. Spend that amount today and give each man, woman and child in this country £8000.
I'm not saying that's what should be done, just pointing out that where there is a will, huge actions can be taken.
It doesn’t bode well for further social unrest. We’re in an initial phase, with relatively few cases and deaths and limited lock down and yet people have already begun to lose their minds and act entirely irrationally. You’ve got to wonder what on earth they will be like when actual stock shortages arrive.
If companies can be given that sort of money, so can we.
I'm struggling to see how UK will be any different. Majority will show solidarity.
I think temporary UBI will have to be done.
Contrast, Tel Aviv tonight:
Dublin tonight:
Dublin tonight:
Indeed. I actually have can foods only for a week, and only a few dollars in cash. Thinking that the society will be rational.
A part of me is tempted to withdraw all the money I have and buy food for a month. The other part is saying that is a very selfish thing to do. But if people are losing their mind cause of fecking toilet paper, imagine what will happen if we actually have a real shortage of food.
In this type of scenario, it seems that autocratic systems are much better suited to deal with. Unfortunate as it is.
20 years ago:
A movie about two planes bringing the whole WTC down : Wtf, 2.5 / 10 , absolutely ridiculous
A flick about UK leaving the EU: Totally unrealistic
A film about Donald fecking Trump becoming POTUS: Haha, great play by Alec Baldwin but the Independence Day is more probable than this.
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Boris Johnson becomes PM
I'm sorry but who the feck hypothetically funded this?
Problem can be if like this Professor, he admits he's filling in a lot of blanks if you read it and this is the narrative being voiced around. scientists and professors have chimed on the talk of herd immunity.
yet
"Prof van Schaik noted that the UK is the only country in Europe that is following what he described as its "laissez-faire attitude to the virus".
But a Department of Health and Social care spokesperson said that Sir Patrick's comments had been misinterpreted.
"Herd immunity is not part of our action plan, but is a natural by-product of an epidemic. Our aims are to save lives, protect the most vulnerable, and relieve pressure on our NHS," he said."
It's probably calculated decisions for optimum effect.
They will.
But Madrid's authorities have spent the last couple of days complaining about groups of people having parties in the parks and public gardens (following the shutdown of restaurants). Meanwhile large numbers of Madrilenos who own seaside apartments decided to head to the coast for the weekend, so they could go to the beach and the promenade.
They're enforcing a lockdown - no travel - as of tomorrow. Some people have to have the orders spelt out and enforced by road blocks
Would this be considered 'new' information?
When the chips are down these civilized people ... They’ll eat each other.”
Yeah brother, it's a weird one.
We know what we think should be done for the best, we hope it's right, but the people in charge aren't doing it meanwhile everyone around is losing their minds and hoarding and panicking and fecking us all over.
Is this not the storyline to Deus Ex? A plague wreacking havoc and rich governments trying to hide the realities...It really is like becomes a game, rather ironic for us
British people voted for Brexit because they didn't like the idea of Europe 'telling them what to do'. Not only were they wrong, but it was stupid and self-defeating. And yet it happened anyway.
The UK public is almost uniquely resistant to authority figures telling them what to do, even when it's in their best interests.
He definitely has it, then.
Yeah brother, it's a weird one.
We know what we think should be done for the best, we hope it's right, but the people in charge aren't doing it meanwhile everyone around is losing their minds and hoarding and panicking and fecking us all over.
Is this not the storyline to Deus Ex? A plague wreacking havoc and rich governments trying to hide the realities...It really is like becomes a game, rather ironic for us
True enough. And to be fair, the toilets in the game did not have toilet paper. It is cause the other people were hoarding them :P
I'm not saying this isn't true but it is what we'd be told whether or not it was true.
Seashells...
Totally Exonerated!!
A big beautiful one.
Sweeping statements about any demographic are completely unhelpful.
If he did have it, it’d be, according to him, the most beautiful and perfect Coronavirus in any human.
I wonder if Western governments have been using a few white lies here and there. I fail to understand the shocking naivety displayed at times.
No... in the future all Wikipedia entries will be written on toilet paper.
People, or 'herds' as they will then be known, will race through the ruined, desolate streets in battered old shopping trolleys screeching 'Happy Birthday' (twice) and hunting for old people to 'economize' from society.
Burnt out, semi-looted shopfronts will have TV sets still looping Liverpool's title celebration from an empty Anfield...
And atop a great throne in the ruins of what was Buckingham Palace will sit King Jacob Rees-Mogg, grinning psychotically, and quietly repeating 'yessss, yessss' to himself as a stack of CCTV screens in front of him flicker images of this brave, new Britain.