If everyone gets it then tens of millions of people globally are going to die. How about we try a cunning plan of everyone NOT getting it instead?
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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If everyone gets it then tens of millions of people globally are going to die. How about we try a cunning plan of everyone NOT getting it instead?
BA cancels all flights to Italy, Ryanair and the others will surely follow.
I mean are they drawing this up out of common sense or is this actually a well known and well studied phenomenon?
I hope that when this is all over one of the things to come out of it is that we no longer pass clearly problematic things off as 'oh its just their culture'. If obviously disgusting and dangerous things are your culture, you need to change it.
Are the airports in Italy even open?
Not a chance, its something that will develop as they develop as a country.
Someone from our office was recently on a skiing trip abroad and one of their group has tested positive, they've since been in the office feeling unwell and were advised to self quarantine awaiting tests. This was on the same day that a bus load of School pupils were being shown around the building as we do a lot with community interactions. I'm feeling hungover and sniffly myself (without having been drinking). I stayed around my friend's house who works in a prison. This is the North of the UK. There's zero chance of containing it now, is cancelling events and flights just prolonging the inevitable ?
They were as of yesterday, friend of mine flew to Catania without any hassle.
No idea how much Sicily has been affected though.
If it could be the difference between 40% of the population catching it and 80% catching it, then its still worth them trying to contain.
Just imagine we cancelled all flights to China 2 months ago. Most of this would have been avoided.
A lot of his voters are the people most at risk.
Indeed.
We are stretching the planet resources way way beyond sustainable levels. That is pretty obvious.
To me, the most critical thing is the atmosphere.
We take it far too much for granted.
Yet, it is really quite thin, only a few kilometres.
But we continue to pump out pollution like no tomorrow.
Our atmosphere took hundreds of thousands of years to develop such that it can sustain all the various life forms.
We seem to treat it with contempt and will ultimately pay the price.
I guess but the impact to economies by trying to contain it could possibly be worse in the long run, it's clear that the World is woefully unprepared for outbreaks such as this.
I'd much prefer to see places which house vulnerable people (hospitals, retirement homes etc) quarantined against the outside world with people checked on entry - flip it on its head and concentrate resources protecting those most at risk...
We saw with the cruise ship that quarantine doesn't necessarily work and simply amplifies deaths for those at risk because they're housed with the sick.
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Yes and they will remain open for safety reasons but by tomorrow i expect all scheduled flights will stop. The majority of flights into Milan today are getting cancelled as the day goes on.
Italy did exactly that, and fat lot of good it did. People will still find a way in/out.
Who can fault him? It worked so well during the plague.
Yes. Near Milan.
If a county gets anything like 40% of its population getting it at one time the death rates are going to be massive, I mean a good chuck of the population would be wiped out. Currently only 0.015% of the population of Italy has had it, and the country is shut down. Even is we seen 5-10% of a countries population getting this, we would see far worse problems than we are seeing now, no country wound be able to cope.
It really isn't. We're just utterly and contemptible shite at sustainability and efficient use of resources. How much food do you think the west especially wastes every year? How much water? How many consumer products are built deliberately to be cheap and disposible, with absolutely no attempt at making things last or indeed any interest in repairing things rather than simply throwing them away and replacing them?
The world could sustain a hugely increased population over what we have today, but at some point it's going to require some basic resource management and allocation, rather than just the consumption free for all that we're all so used to.
You will be fingers15 from now on.Getting rumors that US will ban all cruise travel from mainland US. I work for carnival cruise lines
I am pleased that you understand it.
I have read that the current population is using the planet resources at a rate of 1.75 and rising rapidly.
Which effectively means that even at today's level, we are way beyond sustainable.
Now. How realistic is it that we humans are going to change what we are currently doing to reduce that impact back to 1.0.
This seems very irresponsible. These marketplaces seem a breeding ground for these sorts of diseases and it seems it will keep happening. Sorry if this has been discussed before.
Well there will come a point where that’s forced on us one way or another. The real question is whether we adapt before or after there are wars/mass migration/global rioting etc over it.
Not realistic when the current trend is to elect leaders like trump who deny everything that may affect his poll ratings and the economy,
Stuff the planet
Nature strives for balance, one way or another there will be a cull of the human population eventually. World leaders should be looking to reduce constant population increases, but I’m not seeing anything other than planning eternal growth...
Absolutely. It's fecking ridiculous and disgusting to allow it.
This has essentially murdered thousands of innocent people, and will continue to do so. You can't allow that based on 'culture', there should be repercussions for this for wherever it originated from - serious repercussions.
It's fecking idiotic in this day and age to keep entertaining these dangerous, archaic ideologies and practises.
I have
First confirmed case in Suffolk today. Suprise suprise it is someone who has recently returned from a trip to Italy.
Also got a friend who has a Trullo out there and she's still going out and says her flight hasn't been cancelled. FFS
Also got a friend who has a Trullo out there and she's still going out and says her flight hasn't been cancelled. FFS
The state of that reply..
Its thought process like this that cause wars.
Also anyone who's travelling to and from Italy, or has been in the last week or so, is an idiot in my book. Unless absolutely forced to do so by different factors obviously.
There are plenty of countries who have developed their own test kits.
Tbf H1N1 started with pigs in Mexico. Stop eating bacon or meat altogether?
@Penna payments on mortgages have been suspended in Italy!
Entire Global community has had their economies crippled by this - if you think afterwards changes won't be insisted upon within China you're insane / naive.
This is unprecedented right now. We're in uncharted territory, and we're there, Globally, because of one country's outdated practices ffs.