This was my biggest fear, I’m all for walking away from the Ugarte deal if PSG are demanding unrealistic fees but I was hoping we wouldn’t sacrifice the quality too much going for a cheaper option but it seems like that’s exactly what we’re doing. Talk about scraping the barrel, surely there’s options out there that are in between Ugarte and shite like Berge?
Sander Berge | Signs for Fulham
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I assumed the video was a piss take because he’s passing backwards every time. Mount can do that if we tell him to play very simple and take no risks.
I’ll accept he shows for the ball more than McTominay but this is the level of player we’re looking for to solve midfield issues, it’s going to be a long season.
Always liked him. Keeps it simple, calm on the ball, can pick a pass, strong and can hold people off… main issue has been a tendency to get injured, which has hampered his career trajectory. Would be quietly optimistic should we sign him.
He might actually die when he joins us then!
Not good enough and injury prone too. What are we doing?
He was injury prone when he was younger but not really anymore, he's had 1 injury in the last 3 and a half years.
That’s good. Though as Scandi says, we’ll soon fix that if he’s signed.
Yeah did think it was a waste of time saying that as it clearly doesn't make a difference when we sign anyone.Hasn't missed a game in nearly three years?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sander-berge/verletzungen/spieler/333014
Fair enough, purely basing it on what I've seen from him in his 2 stints in the Premier League and from what my Sheffield Utd pal has said.
From what I've seen he doesn't cover space as quickly as a Fred (or Ugarte). Maybe he's quick once he gets into his stride but over short distances not so much - similar to Carrick in that sense . Just feel like we need more legs/energy in that midfield, we are missing that profile of player since Fred left (which Collyer has filled in pre season)
A nothing player. We are going nowhere this season
Good to see fans have faith in the new recruitment team we spent millions on!
this is my mindset after several windows of 'marquee' signings failing terribly. We cant have it both ways, where we want Ineos to identify under the radar players that will fit whatever idea they want to impose, then also complain when we go for a surprising target.
Im going to try relax about transfers for a couple of windows and see how Ineos perform. We desperately need somebody new in there.
He is absolutely not in any way attack minded from what I understand, and I imagine the idea is to find somebody who will complement mainoo and bruno
I’m all for smarter signings and not going for marquee names but there has to be better players in Europe/elsewhere we can get for under £50m.
But we haven’t done that though.
We’ll have to wait until ten Hag is gone for that, unfortunately. Worry for Kobbie’s development with the way we don’t value the midfield. He’ll get endless game time and progression in that sense — there’s just aspects of his game that are so natural and habits we will drive out of him.We aren’t being linked with any footballing midfielders.
We don't like the ones who excel at passing. It's been like this for a decade. It's my biggest long standing gripe with our player identification.We aren’t being linked with any footballing midfielders.
We have to protect him from EtH or else he might end like Frenkie de Jong
Hence the word if.
We don't have 50m to spend.
Nope. I did the picking and they were taken straight from their transfer thread. I have zero opinion on Berge myself.
Berge is a strange one. Expected more from him based on his early trajectory, and you sort of have a feeling that he has another level he can unlock if he was at the right club and playing at a higher level. I think I would be OK if the price was sufficiently low. Tidy passer and physical presence. Calm and composed head as well.
Of course, but it’s a bit strange to counter to someone saying our window has taken a bad turn by listing a number of theories as mitigation. It goes without saying that our window would be great if we signed Wharton, De Ligt, Davies and Kvaratshkelia, for example. But none of that has happened. Extreme examples of course, but we are where we are.
Ugarte is more exciting but PSG are not playing ball. You would think there are better options out there than Berge though.
Not the exciting name we hoped for but I’m willing to give it a try. Ideally he is being seen as a squad signing with the view that if we can shift a few others we can go back in for Ugarte later in the window when PSG get desperate.
No prices being shown so far, I wonder if he has a release clause for them getting relegated?
No prices being shown so far, I wonder if he has a release clause for them getting relegated?
I mean….fecking hell.
They seem like deals which are likely to happen provided we can sell the likes of AWB and Mctominay, which I think will ultimately happen. However yeah, you're correct and I am probably jumping the gun a little. I just think people need to accept that it would have been impossible to get everything done by the start of the season given that half of our business is contingent on overpaid players leaving.
That would be good, I would take him on a relatively cheap deal, he had one with Sheffield United I believe. I can't believe he would go to Burnley without one.
Wow, Rodri is from another planet.
Not good enough and injury prone seem to be two characteristics we look for.
Noooo, Erik. Go the other way!
People are really basing their assumptions on nothing. He's slow and injury prone. You can't have poor acceleration and do a 40m sprint in 4.68, and you can't be injury prone if you haven't missed a match in three years. He's limited and not the quality we need, but at least criticise the lad for the right things.
He's world class in passing the ball backwards.
I like how people are now just pretending players are injury prone so they can get angry?
Except that he is actually very fast on the first few yards as both stats prove and he claims acceleration as one of his best attributes, but he looks slow because of his strides and his frame. He's also surprisingly agile. Not sure about his energy. Being that big has to demand more energy than a Fred buzzing around the place, so I think you are right in that aspect of his game.
Mount is very quick, agile and tenacious though.
He looks better than Ugarte
Good player, decent backup option.
He's the best in the world at what he does. Sander Berge at number 2 playing for Burnely is, however, quite impressive though.
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