Samuel Eto'o

And how much do you suspect Barca want to keep the best striker in the game right now? Scoring shedloads of goals for them by the game?

Quite a bit.

But if he's going to continue being disruptive then that might change things between now and the summer.
 

Your only contribution to arguements is to pop in and call somebody a retard. How about you offer an opinion for once.

And I'm hardly a retard if you read what I wrote, it actually makes logical sense...
 
Your only contribution to arguements is to pop in and call somebody a retard. How about you offer an opinion for once.

And I'm hardly a retard if you read what I wrote, it actually makes logical sense...

He was winding you up you pedantic little scrote.
 
Not the most clinical no, despite great form this season he's missed a bunch of chances you'd expect a player of his record to be scoring. Still one of the best strikers around though and playing in a team that creates a lot for him.
 
He's got it all.. Pace finishing unpredictable (which he uses to his advantage) strong.

Would agree with this, I have always rated Eto'o as a player.

His wiry strength is probably the most underrated part of his game, especially when in full flight. He is very explosive. It is not often that you will see him totally knocked off the ball when running alongside a defender for example.
 
Not the most clinical no, despite great form this season he's missed a bunch of chances you'd expect a player of his record to be scoring. Still one of the best strikers around though and playing in a team that creates a lot for him.

Yeah, I saw him play a few weeks ago, missed three chances, but buried two of them.

Any player who gets that many chances in one game should bury at least two of them. He is class though mind you, but there are strikers that are more clinical but may lack the same physical and athletic presence as him.
 
And just how disruptive is his behaviour being to the freescoring runaway leaders of La Liga and favourites for the Champions League so far?

Not very, but it's been getting progressively worse.
 
Why's that?

Last season he scored 16 goals in 18 league games, they obviously knew he was still a top quality player.

They weren't selling him for sporting reasons, they were obviously wanting to sell him because of his supposed attitude problems, attitude problems which won't have just disappeared.

He fell out with Guardiola around christmas time and was dropped for a match. Also right after his goal today he ran over to the manager and shouted at him. He got some back and it was clearly more in the spirit of "I feckING TOLD YOU IM GREAT" than anything else, but it shows the type of intense character he can be and why he's been difficult to deal with at times.
 
Not the most clinical no, despite great form this season he's missed a bunch of chances you'd expect a player of his record to be scoring. Still one of the best strikers around though and playing in a team that creates a lot for him.

No player would've been any more clinical than he has been.
 
If he had the finishing ability of Nistelrooy, he would have had 40 goals by now.

If Van Nistelrooy was in that team, he wouldn't have scored more goals.
 
If Van Nistelrooy was in that team, he wouldn't have scored more goals.

I didn't say he would. I said if Eto'o had Nistelrooys finishing ability he would have 40 goals.
Therefore it is possible. Say if you had fat Ronaldo at his peak, he would have had 40+ goals in that team.
 
I didn't say he would. I said if Eto'o had Nistelrooys finishing ability he would have 40 goals.
Therefore it is possible. Say if you had fat Ronaldo at his peak, he would have had 40+ goals in that team.

But that's silly.

No player right now would score more goals than he has, making him the most clinical striker around, which was the argument.
 
But that's silly.

No player right now would score more goals than he has, making him the most clinical striker around, which was the argument.

Fair enough.

Erm...It is hard to think of someone with comparable pace yet better finishing ability...
 
If Van Nistelrooy was in that team, he wouldn't have scored more goals.

Thats not the same as being the most clinical.

Being the most clinical is to do with making the most of goalscoring chances he gets. Van Nistelrooy on his form before he was injured, was very clinical swallowing up almost every chance that was presented to him.

Eto'o is simply involved in more good goalscoring chances than most other strikers in La Liga this season. A big part of that is due to his own impact and work around the box and the rest is down to the creativity of Xavi, Iniesta, Henry and Messi around him. The other strikers dont have the second part.
 
I always thought Henry was more clinical than Eto'o mind you. How many goals has he got this season?
 
Thats not the same as being the most clinical.

Being the most clinical is to do with making the most of goalscoring chances he gets. Van Nistelrooy on his form before he was injured, was very clinical swallowing up almost every chance that was presented to him.

Eto'o is simply involved in more good goalscoring chances than most other strikers in La Liga this season. A big part of that is due to his own impact and work around the box and the rest is down to the creativity of Xavi, Iniesta, Henry and Messi around him. The other strikers dont have the second part.

Right, change the argument then, is he the best striker in the world?
 
I always thought Henry was more clinical than Eto'o mind you. How many goals has he got this season?

In terms of clear goalscoring chances Henry may have been more clinical this season. But Henry's shots from his current role tend to be from on the edge of the box which are not clear chances like Eto'o often gets.
 
Right, change the argument then, is he the best striker in the world?

He's definately the best form striker in the world.

But when it comes to things like chance conversion, I'd like to see some of his stats against some of Europes other better players...




Back to the previous point.. Torres would be absolutely immense in that team. He would definately have 40+ goals in that team by this stage of the season.

Edit: and David Villa
 
Right, change the argument then, is he the best striker in the world?

Quite possibly. Its hard to tell how Torres or Villa might do in the current Barcelona side because they arent in the side. Eto'o is. And he's done a brilliant job.

He's in the best goalscoring form of any player in the top 3 leagues in the world. Thats what you're trying to say right? Because he is and that cant be disputed.
 
He's definately the best form striker in the world.

But when it comes to things like chance conversion, I'd like to see some of his stats against some of Europes other better players...

Back to the previous point.. Torres would be absolutely immense in that team. He would definately have 40+ goals in that team by this stage of the season.

Edit: and David Villa

I would too, but I've no idea where to get chance conversion stats. The commentator against Deportivo said he had a chance conversion rate of 3 in 5, but I've no stats to back that up.

I doubt either would score more goals than Eto'o.
 
If I was in charge of Barcelona and I knew I could get Villa/Torres in the summer I would definately consider selling Eto'o because I think Villa/Torres possess all the qualities of Eto'o, the pace, strength etc. However they are more clinical.

On that basis I think Torres/Villa > Eto'o.
 
Not very, but it's been getting progressively worse.

You've observed this have you? Or are you responding to speculation and rumour? The guys negotiating a lucrative new contract, things are going to be said

Meanwhile, Barca still haven't lost since the opening day of the season, and have a 13 point lead at the top of the table

He's one disruptive cnut, I'll give him that...