You're right. Spurs have world class players in every position and the best young manager football has ever seen.
Saido Berahino
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oh shit yeah your right, i forgot your £36million Man Soldado.
Oh wait, you dont even have that overpriced donkey now either?
I do think Spurs should have stumped up the cash. They might get him in January though.
This is such an accurate translation of my saying that Spurs are not "in an awful position" and that Eriksen and Kane are not our only "decent players" .... it's a wonder that you don't write professionally as a sports summariser. You could be big in Japan.
Spurs lowballed wba and got what they deserved: nothing.
They are going to struggle this season.
They are going to struggle this season.
There was a time when I thought Spurs were building a decent team, but so many of their signings turned out to be bang average at best. Saw their team sheet the other day for the Everton game and it made pretty sad reading without Eriksen. Mason seems like a good player in the making, and I've heard good things about Bentaleb, but every time I've watched him play live he's giving the ball away in really bad positions resulting in chances or goals.
I think they were always going to struggle for top four but I think they could do well in the uefa and will probably be in the qualification mix for it again at the end of the year.
The big question is if that will be enough for some of their better players - especially if a big bid comes in.
As for Berahino I fully expect him to sign in the next window and for less than what they offered this time
why dont people just pay the required fecking money. does my head in, million's of pounds is a ton of money i get that, but its all relative and you cant look at the sum in isolation, it has to be looked at in terms of football transfers and in relation to the tons the clubs make.
The difference he would have made to spurs would have been insane, and now they will struggle and panic buy or overpay in january.
The difference he would have made to spurs would have been insane, and now they will struggle and panic buy or overpay in january.
They have Kane and Son for the two roles he plays the best in, don't see how or why he'd have made an insane difference to spurs.
Schneiderlin's club refused him a move to Spurs, and look how well that turned out for him..playing UCL football this year...He should focus on doing well this year and he may even get into the England team for the Euros and earn a move to a much bigger club..
This extract is from an article in the Guardian today:
There are numerous stories within the game of Levy making offers that serve only to infuriate – most recently, one of his bids for Berahino featured payments of £3.5m each year for five years. It might have added up to an OK bid but it did not create the right climate for further negotiations. At West Brom, they joked that Tottenham would still be paying their proposed add-ons when Berahino was drawing his pension. Levy is a famously hard negotiator but he can and does make things more difficult for himself.
There are numerous stories within the game of Levy making offers that serve only to infuriate – most recently, one of his bids for Berahino featured payments of £3.5m each year for five years. It might have added up to an OK bid but it did not create the right climate for further negotiations. At West Brom, they joked that Tottenham would still be paying their proposed add-ons when Berahino was drawing his pension. Levy is a famously hard negotiator but he can and does make things more difficult for himself.
They did have a good team with Lennon and Bale on the wings and Modric in midfield. They sold them and bought badly. Eriksen in the only one i rate from the latest signings from them.
Spurs/Levy really are pricks!
Jesus
Levy runs Spurs so badly. The state of that squad, compared to where it was under Arry', is shocking.
Erm. Didn't we have a similar sort of deal when we bought Keano?
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Levy runs Spurs so badly. The state of that squad, compared to where it was under Arry', is shocking.
How is the state of their squad compared to when Levy bought Spurs?
What's Spurs turnover in comparison with the rest of the Prem now, compared to when Levy took over?
How big is the Spurs "brand" compared to when Levy took over?
Don't they now arguably have the best training facility in Europe?
Aren't they producing players through their academy which Levy has invested heavily in?
Aren't they building a word class stadium?
Aren't they now top 6 regulars, as opposed to mid table regulars?
I just don't get how anyone could be short sighted enough to criticize the way Daniel Levy runs Spurs. Anyone who thinks it's more important for Spurs to stretch their resources to pay for players like Berahino, rather than run an ultra tight ship and make sure the new stadium in financed, just doesn't get the reality of football. Money is what drives success in the game. The only way for Spurs to reach their objective of being a regular CL club, is to increase their revenue. The small net spend they made this window was the first time in years they've actually had a positive net spend. Clearly they are putting their money into the new stadium, which is what will really benefit them. In the same way Arsenal had several years of limited spending after they built their new stadium, Spurs are doing it before hand.
Levy runs Spurs magnificently, but a lot of people just can't see it. In a few years time they will have both the best stadium and training facility in the Prem. Their academy is now already among the best and will continue to get better. Their revenue will increase dramatically. This will all be achieved with minimal debt. It's because of Daniel Levy. Levy is aware of what is really needed for Spurs to take the next step and it sure isn't buying players like Saido Berahino.
Before Daniel Levy took over at Spurs, clubs like Newcastle, Villa and Leeds were deemed to be doing much better. What those clubs would give for someone who runs a club as badly as Levy!
Yep. And when the stadium is finished, with the naming rights sold, the new corporate boxes sold/leased out and all the extra stadium income is factored in from all the non-footballing activities (NFL games, rock concerts, extreme sports centre tickets etc) I'm betting that the remaining stadium construction debt will not only be pretty small but paid off in double-quick time.
As for Berahino, his potential arrival at Spurs will likely be re-visited in January, when, with just 18 months left on his contract and zero chance of the player signing a new one, Pearce will have little choice but to adopt a more realistic attitude and cease playing tough guy to the crowd.
Cash flow issues most likely.
Judging from Spurs's window and the structure of those bids I can only deduce that Levy isn't as confident of Spurs's financial buoyancy in the short to medium term as @GlastonSpur seems to be.
I was bored, glanced through the caf to find the thread most likely to feature a Glaston meltdown, I was not disappointed!
Regarding Levy specifically I think he does an okay job, but his effectiveness in transfer negotiations depends on whether he is buying or selling. He seems at his best extracting almost extortionately large sums while selling to bigger clubs, and at his weakest when trying to buy from clubs only a little smaller than Spurs.Jesus
Levy runs Spurs so badly. The state of that squad, compared to where it was under Arry', is shocking.
If you sell the whole Spurs players, how much do you think they'd get?? To get back into top 4 regularly would need a lot of investment (as United can attest). Just like Arsenal, it will take almost 10 years without trophy (and might be longer, if you get mediocre managers) and for Spurs to be then in regular Top 4.
That's also if Levy is willing to invest back this future cash flow, back to the team, instead of pocketing it. Or he might do this nice 'projects' with a plan to sell it in the future. And if they get someone like Glazer, that will be another barren years of the needed massive investment back to the team.
That's also if Levy is willing to invest back this future cash flow, back to the team, instead of pocketing it. Or he might do this nice 'projects' with a plan to sell it in the future. And if they get someone like Glazer, that will be another barren years of the needed massive investment back to the team.
Sounds just like Arsenal when the Emirates were built; it won't really do anything to you as a club. You'll struggle to fill it as well.
As for Berahino, I don't think he's in a weak position. It will be the same with us and De Gea, there is an acceptable price, you can meet it; or wait. You need him more than they need the money for him right now and they also get 18 months, minimum, out of him.
He never bought Spurs. Spurs are owned by Lewis who is Levy's employer.
To be fair if Marca printed the sky was blue Id check, and still not believe them, they are full of shit.
Actually Levy owns a good chunk of Spurs. It's simply that Joe Lewis is the major shareholder amongst several shareholders.
Your ignorance is remarkable. Far from having little impact, the new stadium complex will be a game-changer for Spurs, boosting the club's income very substantially and helping to raise the club's profile internationally.
Nor will Spurs "struggle to fill it". You seem entirely unaware that the current stadium sells out and that the waiting list for season-ticket holders is in excess of 47,000 (as of April this year).
As for Berahino, my comments concerned not "now" (because the summer window is now closed), but the January window onwards. He won't sign a new contract at WBA and clearly his sale value will decrease significantly, window by window, from now until his contract ends. There is zero chance of WBA simply keeping him for 18 months (from January onwards) and then having to let him go for nothing.
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When you think that all those immigrants invade Europe now for refugee/economic purposes, it's actually all Spurs fans who are lining up to sit in the new stadium 
In the very, very long term, of course it will. You'll still be paying it off a long time before you're successful and you still have to pay it off before it becomes usable income. I'm not doubting its a great financial move for you; i'm just pointing out the delusion that you'll see the effects in a couple of years.
I'll believe the second comment when it happens. I'm well aware your current stadium sells out, I didn't know the second part. I still find it highly unlikely. I'll wait to be proved wrong.
Well "now" in transfer terms, means January. We all know that's the earliest point when you can register players; he won't at the moment and it will decrease. That's not to say other people may come in with a more acceptable offer than you have previously offered and you've muddied the waters for negotiation with WBA. Unless you come back with a sufficient upfront fee, he'll be there come the summer and who knows who'll want him then (purely dependant on his season).
Yeah, the building of your stadium will be such a momentous achievement for mankind that there'll little kids in the uncharted areas Amazon rainforest who'll soon be aware of the mighty Spurs.
'Hey, let's play snakes and snakes'
'Can't mate. Spurs are about to play West Ham'
This is the same Spurs that have won two league titles..Arsenal, their supposed greatest rivals have won two titles at White Hart Lane...yes, they will enchant the masses.
Levys an idiot Glaston, he's holding Spurs back and has been for several years. You'll keep going through new players, managers, directors of football until you eventually realise that the constant factor throughout the years is Levy. A new stadium won't change anything when the main problem is the man at the top.
That's not to say he's terrible because he's obviously not. But he has no ambition and is clearly happy to see Spurs remain at their current level which if I was a Spurs fan would piss me off no end.
That's not to say he's terrible because he's obviously not. But he has no ambition and is clearly happy to see Spurs remain at their current level which if I was a Spurs fan would piss me off no end.
levy is an employee though isnt he... the majority shareholder of ENIC is Joe Lewis so Levy is managing the business for him.
Who knows how differently he may manage things if it were his own money - as it is he does the job he is paid to do within the parameters he is permitted to work... personally from what I see of him he seems to be pretty good at his job and Id probably rather united signed Levy than most of the spurs players
If our mandate was to get the highest fees possible for outgoing players, yes..but other than that he is no revolutionary in running a club and has done nothing that stands out..All he does is fire manager after manager, with no link between them such that with every new tenure, the Spurs squad goes through a massive clearout..rinse repeat!
You're barely recognized internationally. The only way for you to boost your appearance significantly and catch up with the top clubs a little would be through success on field - like Chelsea have done in the past 10 years. It's not very likely that you will experience any success anytime soon.
Given that we recieved a grand total of something like £20m for RVP, Nani, Hernandes and Rafael perhaps we should employ him just do deal with our player sales... I imagine he would more than recoup his salary for us
So what is going about Berahino...
Nothing. Either Spurs stump up the cash so he comes in Jan or they wait till Jan to see if he's worth it and risk other bidders coming in.
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