Mate I am from Wrexham. This is our season hopefully. Every team has been tough so respect to all in this league. It feels this is going to be the one we go up in but we have to feel for a team like Notts County who have also been brilliant. This only one goes up malarky is a shambles
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I just think it's a great story. The fact that one of them is a comedian from a pretty acerbic, somewhat niche dark-comedy rather than Tom Cruise maybe helps, but I love what they're doing.
They've totally bought their way to the league, but it is still a nice success story.
I mean, wasn't Mullin top scorer in league two when they signed him?
I mean, wasn't Mullin top scorer in league two when they signed him?
I do wonder if Mullin could literally do a better job for United than Weghorst. He presses like a madman plus he can score goals
Wonder how much they've covered with the revenues generated though. Crowds, sponsorships and everything else must be up massive(spanner)ly?
I’m a firm believer that every club eventually finds its rightful place and Wrexham’s is much higher than they’ve shown for years now. It’s great to see.
They've made "significant" losses. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-65142947
I quote because for them it's not much money, but for a National Team club it's a shitload of money. It is basically the akin to City being owned by a Gulf State, without the human rights abuses or beheadings, obviously.
Absolutely he would. I mean Weghorst is just a Dutch international who's scored 120 goals in 288 matches in top tier football whereas Mullin scored 3 in 20 games in League One. But I'm sure Mullin would be great in PL, weird how no-one's signed him yet, eh?
Oh dear. That's no good.
I should be more arsed about this than I am. Of course one of the redeeming things about it is that those suffering the effects of it are somebody else. Which is always nice.
So they've loaned the club the money:
Is that what owners normally do? Is it the sort of thing that could ruin Wrexham if something unforeseen happens and the owners up sticks?
Is that what owners normally do? Is it the sort of thing that could ruin Wrexham if something unforeseen happens and the owners up sticks?
It's weird how Wout Weghorst can even play for a pub team. He'd be on the bench for mine
Or the blatant financial corruption.
But honestly, if the owners are investing their own money in a club, they obey the laws of the land and finally, they don't bring bad rep or cheerlead for bad causes... isn't that the dream? Is there anything bad about this? Because if we just don't want clubs to attract investors, we just want to maintain a pecking order really.
Oh here we go. You left out the most important part of your statement:
he can score goals in non league football
It's insane to me how people who watch football don't appreciate how steep the curve is from one level to the next. And they think a player who looks good at one level, must surely be at least decent a couple of levels above that.
I should clarify I’m not saying it’s a bad thing. But it is still a bit cheaty. They’ve way outspent every other club in the league. But it’s still a really nice story for sure.
Yeah, loved the drama! especially the ending with Ben foster turning into the hero.
I dunno, he should really stand trial at the Hague for Green Lantern.
I was actually going to make a Green Lantern joke but didn't bother
Of course it is. The non-league side I watch when United aren't playing have already been relegated this season and frankly it is absolutely the dream. We had an owner that chucked a load of money at getting out of the Conference in 03/04 and ultimately his business failed and he took the club to the wall despite it not being the club that was failing (on course to finish in the play-offs, were in the FA Trophy semi finals and had made the 4th round of the FA Cup); that's not going to happen with Reynolds & McElhenney - they have too much money and they are too public to allow it to happen.
I find some of the goodwill a bit odd given they are just throwing ridiculous money at it and usually the money clubs get looked down on by fans of other clubs, particularly in non-league circles - I'm thinking Fylde, Eastleigh, Salford, Solihull and many others but I guess the two major differences here are that Wrexham were already a big club at the level rather than playing in front of 200 in a field like the 4 mentioned previously and the public image of Reynolds/McElhenney which is the obvious trump card given how much affection they clearly have for the product they have put together. It's even more odd when they're up against a really big club at the level, with the history of Notts County but I do get it. All being well both will go up.
Not sure why anyone would have an issue with what those lads are doing with Wrexham.
They literally say in the first episode of that documentary that one of the reasons they bought the club was the football pyramid and the fact that you could take a club from non league to the premiere league. That clearly requires investment - did you expect them to add the money up they make from pies at half time and see who they could buy?
If you look at the wealth of owners across the football leagues - do you honestly think they are all philanthropic football fans with gamesmanship and fair play at heart? Don’t they just want success and return on investment?
Isn’t that what Utd fans want? Investment so we can outspend the vast majority of other teams and keep pace with the top tier?
They have gone about it in the best possible way and it is charming to see how they seem to be slowly getting dragged into the area, the history and fibre of the club. It’s great to see.
also, did Salford not do exactly the same thing?
And finally, there are any number of experimental investments in clubs up and down the leagues that have amounted to nothing. Buying good players, as we know only too well, is only the start and does nothing by itself. You need a coach and a structure and a brand and a badge that players will want to play for. Wrexham are just starting their journey and will face tougher challenges ahead when trying to make their way up the leagues - only time will tell how long the fairytale will last so it’s a bit fuking lofty to be shitting on what is really a good news story that any football fan of a lower league team would hope to experience some day.
They literally say in the first episode of that documentary that one of the reasons they bought the club was the football pyramid and the fact that you could take a club from non league to the premiere league. That clearly requires investment - did you expect them to add the money up they make from pies at half time and see who they could buy?
If you look at the wealth of owners across the football leagues - do you honestly think they are all philanthropic football fans with gamesmanship and fair play at heart? Don’t they just want success and return on investment?
Isn’t that what Utd fans want? Investment so we can outspend the vast majority of other teams and keep pace with the top tier?
They have gone about it in the best possible way and it is charming to see how they seem to be slowly getting dragged into the area, the history and fibre of the club. It’s great to see.
also, did Salford not do exactly the same thing?
And finally, there are any number of experimental investments in clubs up and down the leagues that have amounted to nothing. Buying good players, as we know only too well, is only the start and does nothing by itself. You need a coach and a structure and a brand and a badge that players will want to play for. Wrexham are just starting their journey and will face tougher challenges ahead when trying to make their way up the leagues - only time will tell how long the fairytale will last so it’s a bit fuking lofty to be shitting on what is really a good news story that any football fan of a lower league team would hope to experience some day.
Can't begrudge Wrexham but there is something rotten in the game when success at any level is dependent on getting the right owner.
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Yeah, outside of clubs being owned by nation states with dodgy human rights records, I don't see where else you can really draw the line with 'sugar daddy' type owners, and I can't really see what Wrexham are doing wrong that hasn't been done already dozens of times at each level of the professional pyramid.
Let's not forget that Notts County themselves are a bit over a decade removed from parachuting in Sven, Kasper Schmeichel and Sol Campbell. They probably weren't worrying too much about how unfair that seemed to other clubs at their level at the time. The main difference between that and Wrexham is that at least with them, we know that the money exists and where it's from.
This is where I am with it. On the face of things we should dislike Wrexham - they’re the Psg of the national league (just with deadpool money rather than oil and slaves).
But they just seem like really nice people, and it’s good seeing the lower leagues getting the spotlight for a while.
I don't think anyone here was alive at a time when success wasn't dependent on having the right ownership that provide a level of investment.
I don't see why I should dislike Wrexham for having owners that invest heavily (by national league standards) into the club. Especially so when they're doing it with wealth they accumulated from making the best of their own talent and hard work. I wasn't aware of Wrexham being fecked really badly by their previous owner until I saw their docuseries. Probably no one outside of Wrexham cared back then. I'm quite glad for them that they have good owners now.
I love when sarcasm is used to this effect. Swift and decisive.
I live within twenty minutes of the US border, have visited the US countless times, and I categorically disagree with that. I don't know what province you're in, but honestly? People here in BC are pretty much indistinguishable from our cousins down in Washington. Both are generally as friendly, gracious, and welcoming as you can get. There's a reason people sometimes refer to this area as Cascadia, which recognizes our shared culture. Of course, things might be different in other provinces, although I'd be hard-pressed to think that Maritimers (at least) aren't as friendly and welcoming as folk are on the West Coast. I'm an immigrant, and one of the reasons I chose this country is the people.
But to bring it back to the topic, Ryan Reynolds is very representative of your average Vancouverite in terms of personality, humour, and generosity of spirit. He's a good ambassador for the city.
He's also very hot.
I find the nice Canadians generalization weird I've met some total douchebags. Same for any place really every lot has their good and bad.
Reynolds
"You're too old for that", "I have so much arthritis medicine in my bag, i'm not even kidding"
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You can have him.
Halifax are my dads team. The last time they were in the league proper was in the 90s when a little known Geoff Horsefield fired them up. I think he ended up at Fulham in the prem. happy days going with my dad to watch the Shaymen . The Yorkshire crowd could never understand why a couple southerners were in their end cheering them on.
Agreed. There’s rumours of 3 up 3 down from next season, but I think that is more likely if you lot don’t go up, as you’ve brought a lot of attention to the league without doubt. Mind you, I’m hoping County have a hangover in the playoffs and we can sneak up that way
He's extremely likeable, always has been. And him and his wife are quite generous with time and money as well.