Looking forward to seeing what Ryan Giggs is made of outside of Manchester United. Hope he gets a good management gig and makes a name for himself.
Ryan Giggs | United confirm he's left
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Try yourself somewhere else and if you turn out to be good get back to United, Ryan. 
It is quite sad if he is going, and agree massively about the language used towards him, a club legend!
Unfortunately, football is one of those odd setups, where fans think they have the right to abuse people they don't know, in whatever way they fancy. Just to let some steam off as their life isn't going that well.
Busby, Charlton, Ferguson and Giggs. Pretty insulting putting Giggs along those 3. Giggs hasnt showed any maturity to be considered an ambassador at United. Great player for us, incredibly loyal, but he's a total shitbag.
This thread is such a car crash, folks who think he deserves a manager role either here or other large clubs, those who want to rule him out of any role because he's a shnitcnut human being, and those who think anyone who says anything against him is disrespectful, plus a load of other shnitcnut opinions.
Legend player, unqualified manager, time to move on and prove your managerial prowess if you ever want to get the top job.
Legend player, unqualified manager, time to move on and prove your managerial prowess if you ever want to get the top job.
Calm down.
How do you know the above three were angels in their 20s or 30s? What Giggs did was scummy.
But that doesn't mean he's not a legend and shouldn't be treated as one.
Also Sir Bobby refused to visit his dying mother in hospital.
Are we sure he will try management somewhere else, or was this the only job he wanted? He might be another one who goes into punditry.
pretty sure he's said for a long time he wants to be a manager so I would imagine he will. I'm sure i've read in the past that he wanted to emulate mark hughes in taking over the wales job before going into club management, wales job wont be free for another couple years yet. Will likely go to a championship club, but perhaps swansea with the new owners coming in( all new owners will want their own man eventually).
That sounds like a good plan.
For the last 2 years, he was fully expecting to take over from LVG.
The plan (as someone summarised above), was to get 4th place in season 1. Win the league in season 2. Do the same in the season 3 and compete for the CL. Then Giggs takes over.
But given the average results and boring football, LVG was given the boot and the above plan was trashed.
As we all know, Fergie and Giggs' mates have all been urging the powers that be, to give Giggs the job.
The Glazers & Woodward had other ideas
Giggs has to accept that Fergie has very little sway (he blew it when he recommended Moyes - the Glazers appear to ignore Fergie's input when it comes to the manager's job, now) and the only way to get the job is to prove himself at another club. He needs to build up his CV, which is what The Glazers appear to use, when hiring managers.
He is not qualified for the United manager job (at least not yet), full stop.
That's the only thing which should count, don't understand the obsession with his private life. A multi millionaire 's private life can be anything but normal. In what he did with his brother 's wife there are 2 ppl involved and both are responsible for it and it's their own business.
In the same way millions of ppl didn't stop to admire Ronaldo because he is keeping his son away from his mother forever. It's his and her business.
As long as it's not criminal I don't get the obsession with what someone has done off the pitch.
Plus just because some stories aren't published about certain players or managers it doesn't mean that they are necessarily loyal or wonderful human beings.
That's the only thing which should count, don't understand the obsession with his private life. A multi millionaire 's private life can be anything but normal. In what he did with his brother 's wife there are 2 ppl involved and both are responsible for it and it's their own business.
In the same way millions of ppl didn't stop to admire Ronaldo because he is keeping his son away from his mother forever. It's his and her business.
As long as it's not criminal I don't get the obsession with what someone has done off the pitch.
Plus just because some stories aren't published about certain players or managers it doesn't mean that they are necessarily loyal or wonderful human beings.
Exactly.
We don't know what Fergie, Charlton or Busby were up to in their 20s or 30s. They might have been playing away too.
So to say Giggs doesn't belong in the same sentence as them is silly. He is still a club legend.
Never said he wasnt a legend. But generally if you're an ambassador, being scandal free probably helps. You can have it both ways. Either you want tradition or you dont care either way. My point is if you want someone to carry on the tradition of Busby, Ferguson and Charlton, Ryan Giggs probably isnt the man you look at. The general feeling on Ryan Giggs isnt a positive one.
Also the Charlton thing is hardly worth bringing up. That was years of bitterness througha family feud with many open wounds. Not even in the same league as anything Giggs did.
Fergie scandal free? Wasn't this the guy who sued one of the clubs owners over a horse. Refused to speak to BBC for 10 years because of his dodgy sons dealing.
Why isn't it a positive one? He's a club legend.
And the Charlton story is worth bringing up. He could have visited his dying mum and have closure. But refused to do so.
Best for his longterm career in management is for him to move on, win some titles, generally prove his capabilities or possibly not - wish him the best....
Only a sale of Rooney could please me more than this. It's time to move on and get rid of all the deadweight hanging around this club. Great news!!
Its hardly shagging your brothers wife, though is it? Suing someone because you feel wronged and not speaking to the BBC because they alleged something about his son (and they were careful use the words allegedly when discussing that subject) is something for the average Joe to rally behind at least. Ferguson sticking up for himself at least falls of one side the argument. Unlike the public mess Giggs' life has been. Something he doesnt seem to even care to address, considering what has come out recently.
That story isnt true though, according to Charlton himself. In fact it was Jack Charlton who he fell out with out of loyalty to his wife who Jackie had a go at in his book. Jack using an overblown story to profit from dwindling public image in the game was the story there. Nothing to do with Bobby.
Look, my point isnt even that you need a speaky clean man as an ambassador. But you cant have both. You cant have the "tremendous player and a jam up guy to boot" role. I dont mind Giggs as an ambassador in years to come. But shooting down people like Gary Neville just because he's "not as good as Giggs" is ridiculous. Chances are we'll probably have Wayen Rooney as a member of the board in 30 years time. So probably time to get over how picky we are.
I do think it is a win-win. Ryan will go out there and attempt to show that he can make it and by going out there he will have less pressure but at the same time nothing granted to him so whatever he does will be on pure merit. We at the same time can work with a great manager and since he does not stay more than 3 years (so far) it will allow us to see wheter he can be our Pep or if he is another of the United player that went to management and are average...
Quotes from Sir Bobby himself
So what is your point? You don't want Giggs as ambassador one post and the other you don't mind years to come. Which one is it?
The club desperately want him to stay. So I am sure they don't give two shits who he is shagging. So why should you?
Right now Giggsy moving on feels like a really positive step in our clubs transition. We have unparalleled history behind us, now it's time for our new generation to go on and create the next chapter.
Giggs has been fantastic for United, but a time always comes when people have to move on. To be fair, the club could not appoint Giggs as manager at this time. The club is going through a very difficult phase right now. The need is to have a successful manager with a good track record, Mourinho fits that bill for sure. Giggs needs to go and show that he has the ability to be a top manager. United is not the place to expect time to see if you have it. But there are many other posts out there where that is possible. So he will need to do it elsewhere. I sincerley hope that he does this and that he will come back someday and manage United. I would love to see him succeed.
Hibs job is available if he wants it
Gorgeous city and a great fanbase
2nd division in Scotland he might think it's beneath him which absolutely isn't the case.
Gorgeous city and a great fanbase
2nd division in Scotland he might think it's beneath him which absolutely isn't the case.
He is a Legend. But he needs to get his creds manging a club first. Who knows in 10 years time....
I think he's making the right choice by leaving and getting some much needed experience as the main man.
In ten years? He will most likely end up like Keane, Nevillex2, Bruce, Ince, Solskjaer, Robson and Strachan
There are people within the club who think highly of him. But even they know he lacks experience.
There is no telling what will happen. But he should not expect to just slide into the seat.
Yeah most likely the same who thought highly of Moyes. But yes you are right he shouldn't expect to slide into the manager position. I'm pleased he has the bravery to try elsewhere.
The end of an era. It's possible to feel sad with Ryan ending his association with the club and also feel that this is the right move for both the club and Giggs himself. Hope to see you soon at OT in some capacity with the United staff Ryan.
He should go for the Leeds job, it'll give him experience and nobody will judge him really if he's sacked because they all get the sack.
He has learned to crawl at United....now he must learn to walk somewhere else.
Giggs leaving United is the best thing for all parties. Mourinho doesn't need him and he's ready to be a manager in his own right. I don't expect to see him back at United as manager in the future fwiw.
People here just love to place all examples in same bracket,just to suit their agenda.
Really hope he makes it elsewhere and comes back proven and ready to manage us. The man lives for United and some of the attitudes and comments about him on this forum have been nothing short of shameful.
It'll be a sad day. I would have loved if VG was a success and passed on the mantle to Giggs with a young and exciting team. Unfortunately, in our current predicament it would have been too much of a risk to give him the job.Going to a bottom-table or Championship team is always a risk. Would Pep would have been a resounding success if he started there? I am not sure. This might be the end of Giggs with United; besides may be in an ambassadorial capacity at same stage.
Good luck to him. I hope he is a success and comes back to manage us in the future. Nothing would please me more.
To return back on the subject. Giggs is the oldest and most decorated player out of the class of 92. He's also been with Manchester United for the longest time ever and he was actually world class. He's also the second most popular player of the class of 92 (after Becks who burnt bridges when he kicked a hissy fit to join Real). Once Charlton retires he'll get the job
Hoped he would stay, maybe as U-21s manager. Can only wish him best for future. Would love to see him become a top class manager and return to us as manager someday.
As far as his personal life is concerned, every player would have had some blots. Just in Giggsy's case, it got overblown(although it was wrong on Giggs' part). Best is regarded as a legend and his personal life was questionable. Same for CR7, hell his kid doesn't know about his mom. Rooney had his share of trouble. And these are just some players we can recall and whose stories have been brought to light. Then there is also Martial, etc
As far as his personal life is concerned, every player would have had some blots. Just in Giggsy's case, it got overblown(although it was wrong on Giggs' part). Best is regarded as a legend and his personal life was questionable. Same for CR7, hell his kid doesn't know about his mom. Rooney had his share of trouble. And these are just some players we can recall and whose stories have been brought to light. Then there is also Martial, etc
Hope he doesn't go anywhere. Should have a job for life at the club to be honest. Incredible career.
I hope one day to watch United play under him.
He has looked miserable over the last 3 years since Fergie left, although he has been at the club for 30 years doesn't mean he should be given the managers job.
He really needs to go away and see if he can manage a club and then maybe he can be considered for Utd job in a few years time.
He really needs to go away and see if he can manage a club and then maybe he can be considered for Utd job in a few years time.
Still think he's scared of leaving and messing up his chances of managing us.
If he's good enough then he will succeed elsewhere. Else we have dodged a bullet
Of course, but I think he's scared of doing a Neville.
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