Well its not a fight to the bitter end, nothing of the sort. There is no good reason for Russia to invade in the first place, never mind 1 day longer, they can end this at any time and get on with life. Its 90k losses for literally nothing. They also had allies in WW1/2, trade partners, materials flooding in by the million of tonnes. Not really comparable.
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Well its not a fight to the bitter end, nothing of the sort. There is no good reason for Russia to invade in the first place, never mind 1 day longer, they can end this at any time and get on with life. Its 90k losses for literally nothing. They also had allies in WW1/2, trade partners, materials flooding in by the million of tonnes. Not really comparable.
Opec and Russia are colluding to cut production.
Why Russia stands to gain most from OPEC+ oil production cuts
It isn’t losses they can’t recover from, it’s losses that won’t be recovered.
edit: though one could argue if those were their best troops it would be impossible to recover from in the near-to-mid term.
For us and any other sane person on planet Earth. Unfortunately it's Putin and his cronies calling the shots, and for them stopping the war now would be an unbearable humiliation.
Very true, and unfortunately, the Russian people for the most part don't realise its all for nothing.
NAFO, North Atlantic Fellas Organization, is some sort of troll/shitposting movement dedicated to counter Russian misinformation and propaganda online. It has made some waves, been mentioned in big media outlets and has support from political commentators, politicians and military people, Ukranian and American. Turns out the guy who started it all is a nazi, which is pretty bad optics. There's quite a bit of drama going on online now about whether or not to support him.
So a Polish Nazi hates Russia and shitposts against them? This is news now? Of course the historic right wing who hate Russia is involved in every action against them, obviously some of the most active people arguing and acting against Russia will be Nazis.
Was about to say the same.
The definition is in the tweet.
Just some usual hey look some guys are bad too stuff. Was it even relevant to this thread?
At this point what do Russians really have to lose by taking to the streets? You're being thrown into the slaughterhouse either way. When contrasted with what's going on in Iran it's mad how complicit the public appear despite literally seeing their sons, brothers and fathers offered up like pawns. This is especially true for those who have already left Russia, where is their condemnation? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to be a pretty muted response to the mobilization/drafting of untrained and ill-prepared citizens.
Mentioned in outlets like The Economist, Wall Street Journal and Politico, supported by Adam Kinzinger and the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. President and prime minister of Estonia, American major generals, etc. etc. That's why it's news. It's not like it matters in the grand scheme of things, but it is news.
Is it less relevant than all the posts about random Russians and Russian media people saying stuff?
Yes.
Why?
Because I clicked on that tweet and didn't find any remotely direct relevance to this thread. Did we post any content from those guys here and form our opinions on it?
Do you think it is relevant to this thread? If so, how? I mean, other than yeah, there are some right-wing nuts-hating people around.
There were several posts about this absolute nobody: https://www.brusselstimes.com/271089/the-most-hated-russian-tourist-in-europe
When it happened. When she had to leave Austria. When she moved back to Russia. That's noteworthy, but not this? It's relevant to this thread because it happened, because it's a moderately big Internet thing about the war and because famous people and the Ukranian state have commented on it. How is it not relevant?
Wait, what? The group wrote that article or/and framed the girl?
Or are you saying that the article is as relevant as your tweet, which says there are Nazi nuts in the Eastern Europe hating Russians and talking shit about them online to this thread?
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No one framed the girl, she did exactly what was reported on. I'm saying that if a random Russian woman being an asshole is relevant to this thread, how can it not be relevant that the front figure of an Internet movement with support from the Ukranian state and major international politicians is a nazi?
Here's another tweet from this thread, which was noteworthy enough to both be posted and commented on. Do you think that one was relevant?
This is the one I am talking about. Your tweet did not have much background information on the group (online gamers and trolls, great!), and some people here said they had never heard of it. The tweet solely seemed to say, "Oh, there are some Nazis hating Russians." Hence, the question was if it was relevant to the thread in a way to be informed or to see from another perspective based on that.
To me, at that point, no.
Seems Ukraine caught wind of reports about this turd being on frontlines.
On the side note, always thought he was speaking lots of sense from russian perspective, wouldn't mind him being removed before somebody actually started listening.
And the next comment, that you replied to so you did see it:
So on the one hand you have two people on Redcafe that haven't heard of them, on the other hand you know it's a group that has gotten international attention from some big players, yet you question the relevance. You don't ask if it's important or a big deal, you ask if it should even be in the thread. And I would actually like an answer to what I asked, is it relevant to the thread what random Russian tourists do in Austria, or what some Czechs do?
Dunno about that guy, but NAFO is doing good work, for sure.
I dont think Putin would mind either.
Are mobiks the conscripts?
Beautiful pattern, if someone could get a shot from above I'd frame it.
Surreal stuff that
Looks like they're going full on police state.
That’s an M270 isn’t it?
Yep, not a HIMARS. This is definitely the wider, tracked vehicle.
Correct. It's also only a single launcher and not a battery, a battery would normally consist of 3 or 4 launchers.
I can see nothing in that video that would suggest this is a ATACMS rocket being launched. In fact, I think the back blast looks way to small for it to be a ATACMS rocket.
This is what a ATACMS launch looks like for comparison.
I don’t know a M270 from a potato gun but this popular weapons expert isn’t buying in, at least not in this case.Correct. It's also only a single launcher and not a battery, a battery would normally consist of 3 or 4 launchers.
I can see nothing in that video that would suggest this is a ATACMS rocket being launched. In fact, I think the back blast looks way to small for it to be a ATACMS rocket.
This is what a ATACMS launch looks like for comparison.