Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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What a tiny, ugly little shit Putin is. No wonder he’s a cnut.
I think everyone understands what going nuclear means, the MAD doctrine have been around for decades. It’s really hard to get a proper feeling of what people in Russia think today though.
The height of worry over a nuclear war wasn't in the 1940s, it was probably more like the 60s and 70s, maybe 80s. People might not be very afraid of nuclear weapons, but they should be.
I wish that putin would never have invaded Ukraine in the first place. But i'm afraid that Putin has now decided that he has this line, where if you go over it you get the bullet (in this case a tactical nuclear missile), and it's going to be Ukrainians at the receiving end. I hope my fear is not correct, and that Ukraine will keep gaining back land and at the end we see putin with a rope around his neck.
Putin blaming the Anglo-Saxons is not something I expected to read today.
We definitely sure he doesn't realise he isn't playing Civilization V.
We definitely sure he doesn't realise he isn't playing Civilization V.
Symbolic I reckon. Won't happen in the near future.
Hmm, could be related to Ukraine’s application?
He's gone full Hitler hasnt he.
What a lunatic.
What a lunatic.
I know you're trying to do good here, but Lindsey Graham is the last person we should listen to. Regardless of topic
It’s quite a smart move regardless especially when it comes to taking over the informational space in the media on this day.
If NATO was to accept then we're in WWIII right?
Yes, but that's not going to happen, as NATO would need to break it's own rules and would need approval from all members. Ukraine won't become a NATO member now.
Nonetheless some kind of even closer official collaboration could be announced to "pave the way for full membership" or whatever.
If he plans to defend the territory using nukes, why the "partial" mobilisation that made hundreds of thousands flee the country?
Everything can happen, the sabotaging the Nord Stream pipeline in international waters also set an unseen precedent in the whole mix.
Although I expect similar movements that were made with the EU membership application that Ukraine made.
I honestly don't understand why so many seem to care about the Russian constitution...
A new regime would likely change it anyways.
Adam Curtis's next big documentary is going to be on Russia. Cannot wait for this.
Putin has completely lost the plot.
I see no way he comes out of this successfully which is brilliant but also quite concerning.
I see no way he comes out of this successfully which is brilliant but also quite concerning.
Into or out of Crimea?
The point of a nuclear deterrent is simply that - a deterrent. As soon as Putin actually uses nukes, then the deterrents have failed and there is zero reason not to put boots on the ground to destroy the Russian armed forces and capability to rebuild.
I was an advocate at the start of the war for NATO to step in and establish a no-fly zone, and kick the Russians out of Ukraine. This was called warmongering and yet, here we are over 6 months later, with thousands of innocents killed, potentially doing the same thing anyway. I don’t think Putin was ever going to risk nuclear war over Ukraine. As long as NATO aren’t marching on Moscow, he has no incentive to do so.
I was an advocate at the start of the war for NATO to step in and establish a no-fly zone, and kick the Russians out of Ukraine. This was called warmongering and yet, here we are over 6 months later, with thousands of innocents killed, potentially doing the same thing anyway. I don’t think Putin was ever going to risk nuclear war over Ukraine. As long as NATO aren’t marching on Moscow, he has no incentive to do so.
Can’t we just give them missiles suited to taking out that rail route if they promise to use them around Crimea (not Russia proper)? Russia’s supply lines would be fubar’d.
I believe the bridge was deliberately not attacked to allow the Russians to eventually feck off out of Crimea. They should probably get rid of it now, that the Russians are clearly using it as a tool to further escalate.
@RG77 I fear if NATO goes in, the time for sanctions would be well and truly over. They'd decapitate the entire govt of Russia, sink their whole fleet, and wipe their entire army off the face of planet earth within a few weeks. But a flailing enemy with nuclear submarines and ICBM's isn't something you want to mess with, let's be real, and our infrastructure and world couldn't be the same afterward
Well at some point we have to take a stand. There is no point giving Ukraine a single bullet if NATO is not willing to call Putin's bluffs. It is not like we have not had enough warnings. This is the same pattern of behaviour exhibited since he took power in 2000.
Especially since those new edits were added, well, unconstitutionally.
All part of the charade. Probably doctrine. And Russia has been planning this for some years, sinisterly. I expect this was changed to give them a legal basis to nuke Ukraine. https://www.defensenews.com/global/...of-atomic-weapons-against-non-nuclear-strike/
Russia has been planning something for years, but it isn't nukes. It's clear that Putin expected the much lauded, grand and mighty Russian military to run over Ukraine. That is if they didn't manage to take Kyiv in the first few days and end it right then and there. I really doubt they ever expected to actually meet the kind of resistance which necessitates threatening nukes. They probably expected Ukraine to fold.