Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

But this kind of “we will X if you Y” intimidation attempt has been Russia’s MO throughout this entire thing, and the evidence shows that they won’t as seen by the non entity that is the reaction to attacks in Crimea and Belgorod.

Well, it is getting more difficult for Putin day by day. If he loses all territories, how can he justify sacrificing tens of thousands of Russian lifes at home?

The mobilization has changed much. He's losing support at home which means he increased his stakes in this conflict. I really hope this lack of support means he won't use nukes because he would be done politically but there's a clear difference between explosions on Russian occupied ground and the loss of occupied territories for him.

It would be best if he was removed before he can make this choice because right now, I'm not so sure he wouldn't use one. But if he actually uses one, I suppose protests in Russia will escalate and he'll lose every international good will he still had because China and co. will be left with no choice but abandoning him and NATO will intervene militarily.
 
Now that so many “anti-war” good Russians have fled to neighboring countries we should expect to see mass protests in support of Ukraine organized or attended by them soon as they’re free to do so now, right?
 
Now that so many “anti-war” good Russians have fled to neighboring countries we should expect to see mass protests in support of Ukraine organized or attended by them soon as they’re free to do so now, right?

Why should we expect that? The vast, vast majority of people against this war haven't attended any protests. That includes people who follow this thread as well, of course.
 
It's starting to look like the claim that the mobilization will only include those with training under 35 is a lie, and these people who aren't trained and over 35 aren't there on accident.

I'd be concerned he's gonna call up more than 300,000, but it sounds like he will struggle to prepare and supply that many.

Meanwhile 12 of 16 regions of Germany say they can't take more refugees.

https://rmx.news/article/germany-ov...of-16-federal-states-begin-blocking-refugees/
 
Nonsense.

In the Guardian article he's also quoted as saying "of course it depends on what happens on the battlefield" and talks about needing the weapons to counter any strikes and take down missiles.

It suits Ukraine for the West to be on high alert and to keep the weapons pouring in so I personally take those comments with a pinch of salt.
 
Well, it is getting more difficult for Putin day by day. If he loses all territories, how can he justify sacrificing tens of thousands of Russian lifes at home?

The mobilization has changed much. He's losing support at home which means he increased his stakes in this conflict. I really hope this lack of support means he won't use nukes because he would be done politically but there's a clear difference between explosions on Russian occupied ground and the loss of occupied territories for him.

It would be best if he was removed before he can make this choice because right now, I'm not so sure he wouldn't use one. But if he actually uses one, I suppose protests in Russia will escalate and he'll lose every international good will he still had because China and co. will be left with no choice but abandoning him and NATO will intervene militarily.

He wants the West to think he's a "madman" but they don't seem to be taking the bait. He seemed keen at the start of the war to let people think he was sick, or dying, or paranoid after Covid. That doesn't seem to be the case now.

He is becoming increasingly desperate for his political survival but that's not the same as wanting to see the world burn. He must also be aware that the vultures will be circling at home because even if he's prepared to run the risk, I suspect others aren't. His power base is not one of ideologues - they're just gangsters and thieves out for themselves. Will they die for "Mother Russia"?

He's being exposed on the world stage as a gambler who rules by fear and only knows how to threaten escalation, and has no other answer. He solves one problem then instantly creates another . The West aren't backing down the his threats like they have before and he's no doubt aware of the consequences of escalating to tactical nuclear weapons. A war with NATO, on whatever terms is a war he can't win. He knows it, his supporters know it and the people behind the scenes awaiting his downfall know it.

Annexation might see more threats to escalate to "defend Russian territory" but Ukraine have attacked Crimea, and even Russian territory before. The annexations are illegitimate to anyone but Russia and the result of escalation will be the same regardless. I suspect it's as much to try and solidify support at home as anything else.
 
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Why should we expect that? The vast, vast majority of people against this war haven't attended any protests. That includes people who follow this thread as well, of course.
I agree, although it affects them directly as opposed to many here. I’m just deeply frustrated by their apathy to all this given the circumstances. I really believed that mobilization will finally wake them up but I was wrong here.
 
I mean I suspect they have family back in Russia - could saying things have repercussions?

I think in their circumstances regardless of their views most people would try and dodge answering on camera
A friend of mine is Russian and has been living in Denmark for more than a decade. She knows a Russian guy living in Germany who was critical of Russia on social media. His parents' place in Russia ended up being ransacked.
 
I think there’s a pretty good chance we are going to see a major escalation in the coming weeks. Once Putin officially annexes the Ukrainian territories, he will use it as a pretext to claim Ukraine is attacking Russian land, which will be used as justification to use more powerful weapons (whether it’s nukes or other WMDs we don’t know ). Once that happens, NATO will be forced to get involved, at which point we will reach a dangerous precipice.

I don't agree with this. The Annexations change nothing. They're not recognised by the rest of the world and Putin knows that. If we was going to escalate why not do so before? The tide has been turning for months. He has warned before that the flow of weapons must stop, and that strikes could be made on supply lines into Ukraine, yet he did nothing.

Annexation also gives him the chance to declare some kind of victory at home. He can pour soldiers in to the annexed territory and dig in.

He's got as many problems in Russia as he has in Ukraine and seeing NATO intervene and wiping out his Army on the ground in Ukraine, and sinking the Black Sea fleet in a conventional attack doesn't seem to solve any of them. Neither does losing what little international links he has left.

I accept he is a dangerous man, but he seems not to have any overarching plan any more. It's all reactive and seems to be designed to survive a bit longer, kick the can down the road and hope for a miracle.
 
Zelensky invoking the legendary leader of the 19th century Caucasus resistance, Shamil, in this address to the people of Dagestan (and elsewhere). He continues to impress with this kind of thing:

Address by the President of Ukraine to the indigenous peoples of Russia: Fight to avoid death, defend your freedom in the streets and squares

https://www.president.gov.ua/en/new...-ukrayini-do-korinnih-narodiv-rosiyi-bo-78137
 
I think there’s a pretty good chance we are going to see a major escalation in the coming weeks. Once Putin officially annexes the Ukrainian territories, he will use it as a pretext to claim Ukraine is attacking Russian land, which will be used as justification to use more powerful weapons (whether it’s nukes or other WMDs we don’t know ). Once that happens, NATO will be forced to get involved, at which point we will reach a dangerous precipice.

Ukraine has already hit the 'annexed' territory of Crimea several times in the last few months. They aren't afraid to keep going, regardless of the shite the Kremlin is dishing out. Might even hit the Crimean bridge.

Yes, NATO might have to get involved in some way if tactical nuclear weapons are used. But we knew that from the very beginning in February. Nothing really has changed in the situation, apart from the threats getting louder.

I still think we're far away from that possibility, although never say never. The rats in the Kremlin are cornered.
 
Another absolute massacre by Russia against a column of civilians trying to evacuate to Zaporyzhia, the images are too disturbing to share but the world should see it what Russian world is all about.
 
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I agree, although it affects them directly as opposed to many here. I’m just deeply frustrated by their apathy to all this given the circumstances. I really believed that mobilization will finally wake them up but I was wrong here.
Apathy? They're literally fleeing their homeland.
 

Russia troops are retreating from Lyman and will try a breakthrough from the encirclement, hopefully none of them makes it alive.
 

Russia troops are retreating from Lyman and will try a breakthrough from the encirclement, hopefully none of them makes it alive.

Hopefully they change their mind and surrender. Hoping for so many people to die isn't how we should think I believe.

For a future change in Russia we need a lot of people who understand how wrong their current way is and it seems lik most Russian PoW have at least some of this understanding.
 
Hopefully they change their mind and surrender. Hoping for so many people to die isn't how we should think I believe.

For a future change in Russia we need a lot of people who understand how wrong their current way is and it seems lik most Russian PoW have at least some of this understanding.
They’ve clearly made a decision not to surrender, I’m not sure what else can we hope for in such a situation.
 
Our lives would be a lot better if someone set off a few bombs in this room where Putin is giving his speech.
 
I'm somewhat surprised Putin is increasing, not decreasing, his commitment to the invasion. Annexed territory becomes Russian territory and "Russian territory" must be defended, no?
 
I genuinely fear it’s a matter of time before Putin pushes the button. He’s not backing down and is instead escalating things at every turn. They are not winning the war without using nukes, and losing the war doesn’t seem to be an option for him.

I really hope there are sane heads in the Kremlin who will stop him if he goes there, but they all seem like fascist lunatics from the outside.

I hope to feck China sends a clear warning to Putin not to go nuclear.
 
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He is desperate to end this war while still gaining something from it. What the right thing to do from here for Ukraine, i don't know.
 
Putin has definitely been isolated too much during Covid and has been reading too much Russian Daily Mail.
 
Batshit how the World Cup in 2018 went ahead in Russia and ennobled the seizure of more territory and this sort of aggressive behaviour.