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"Timothy Ash, a senior emerging markets sovereign strategist, said the allegations that Russia could be behind the damage were "remarkable."

"So a number of holes appeared in these pipelines, which are thick and buried deep. This has to be subs, likely Russian subs," he said in an emailed note, adding that it would be "incredible" if Russia was found to have been willing "to cause such risks to shipping in the Baltics.""

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/27/rus...ter-leaks-found-on-nord-stream-pipelines.html

"Leaks of this size are a severe safety and environmental hazard, especially should Russia not stop pumping gas into the system."

Is that the point, to cause an environmental hazard? If they don't stop pumping gas that will tell us all we need to know.

I say that's not beyond the realm of possibilities that Putin is willing to do the same kind of shit that Saddam did to Kuwaiti oil fields as the Iraqis fled during the Gulf War. Both cnuts deserve(d) to end with a rope around their necks just for that shit alone.

Right now, NATO better send military ships to patrol around the Norwegian pipelines for starters.


Indeed. I say Twitter is just needing that kind of official designation to start waging a war against Russian bots based on the same algorithms that were used to fight ISIS. In fact, that war against disinformation from the Kremlin should have been waged several years ago.
 
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At least these latest “referendums” completely undermine those that previously happened in Crimea. Far fewer will take those seriously now.
 
He was talking about NS2 and he meant sanctions, which wasn't needed since Germany voluntarily stopped the pipeline when the war started.
Well... sanctions against Germany were implemented and didn't stop the progress of the project, the beginning of the war did. As obviously sanctions weren't enough it is a valid question what means the US would have taken (or possibly did).

The US trying to force Germany to buy their expensive fracking LNG isn't that well received here...
 
Well... sanctions against Germany were implemented and didn't stop the progress of the project, the beginning of the war did. As obviously sanctions weren't enough it is a valid question what means the US would have taken (or possibly did).

The US trying to force Germany to buy their expensive fracking LNG isn't that well received here...
The point is, it's not the US blowing the pipelines, that's ridiculous.
 
Well... sanctions against Germany were implemented and didn't stop the progress of the project, the beginning of the war did. As obviously sanctions weren't enough it is a valid question what means the US would have taken (or possibly did).

The US trying to force Germany to buy their expensive fracking LNG isn't that well received here...

While the rest of Europe freezes this winter, partly because Germany refused to heed the warning on becoming reliant on Russian gas, we will all bear those misgivings in mind.
 
To what benefit?

People are wondering if Norway did it just because they’re about the only country that benefits from this. Which is quite a stretch.
This is a vexing question. There was a post in the WaPo comments that suggested the reason may be internal. Putin blows the pipelines and the oilygarchs' power is diminished; a message is sent to those around him that he can break them without resorting to defenestration.
 
Absolutely nothing to do with the war, but does anyone know why Meloni has the Arabic letter "noon" in her name?

Its usually written in solidarity to persecuted Christians around the world. ن is to indicate Nasara or Nazarenes, which have allegedly been used as pejoratives against Christians, most recently by the likes of ISIS in Iraq.

She is basically using the ن on her socials to campaign against "Christian oppression". Not particularly surprising coming from a right wing politician in the west.
 
Its usually written in solidarity to persecuted Christians around the world. ن is to indicate Nasara or Nazarenes, which have allegedly been used as pejoratives against Christians, most recently by the likes of ISIS in Iraq.

She is basically using the ن on her socials to campaign against "Christian oppression". Not particularly surprising coming from a right wing politician in the west.
That's news to me. Cheers bro
 

There have been some horrific images from this war, but this is almost as heartbreaking. That old man looking at his rifle might end up dead in a ditch somewhere in Ukraine. What a monumental waste of real lives because of the actions of a deranged idiot.
 
There have been some horrific images from this war, but this is almost as heartbreaking. That old man looking at his rifle might end up dead in a ditch somewhere in Ukraine. What a monumental waste of real lives because of the actions of a deranged idiot.

deranged idiot -dash- master strategist!
 
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...gozhin-admits-founding-wagner-mercenary-group

Putin ally Yevgeny Prigozhin admits founding Wagner mercenary group
Russian businessman confirms deployment to countries in Latin America and Africa in first public confirmation of link

[...]
Wagner has been accused of committing human rights abuses in Ukraine, Syria, Libya, Central African Republic, Sudan and Mozambique. The group’s alleged co-founder, Dmitry Utkin, has been linked to the far right and is believed to have named the group after Hitler’s favourite composer. The US and EU have imposed sanctions on Prigozhin and Utkin for their role in Wagner.

[...]

Last week the Guardian reported that Prigozhin was personally recruiting soldiers from Russia’s extensive penitentiary system in an attempt to compensate for acute shortages of personnel on the battlefield.

In one leaked video, Prigozhin is seen telling inmates they would be freed if they served six months with his group.
 
It obviously wasn’t the US. Absolutely no need. The gas isn’t flowing through those pipes now anyway and the EU is in a good place ahead of winter and has moved away from Russian gas. This was a warning shot from the Russians - the Norwegian supply gets cut and it’s fecking chaos:


Havent kept track, what's the situation in EU energy wise?
 
Havent kept track, what's the situation in EU energy wise?
Generally stable now, but quite vulnerable, there aren't much options if a pipelone from Norway gets destroyed or something like that.
 
Generally stable now, but quite vulnerable, there aren't much options if a pipelone from Norway gets destroyed or something like that.

Well they'd have to prepare for some rationing and more LNG and whatnot to be bought. It would be chaos but they've had plenty of time to prepare contingencies. In the UK we are more independent theoretically, but our doomsday cult won't have planned any sensible response should any lines go down I shouldn't think...
 

From few days ago but probably relevant now;

Looks like US kept an eye on the Russian sub activity in the same area.
 
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It’s interesting when will Germany wake up to the fact that they’re being ridiculed by Russia in this hybrid warfare and that’s time to start acting properly and with a bit of the backbone.
 
Preparations are ongoing in Belarus to open up a north axis again.


The delusion is strong in Kremlin it seems.