Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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Literally no room for The Onion or Brass Eye in Russia:
What are you talking about?
I've recently heard that they can't just make an 180 on the shutting down of nuclear plants. They'd need more preparation time for it
100% true
But it also true that Russia and China see's The West's leaders as feckless and weak which I think is actually completely true. Still It the US were called war mongerers for giving correct Intel about Russia's plans to invade to Ukraine. I think in terms of direct military intervention, we in the west, live in an age where we don't accept casualities of our soliders. Every soldier fallen becomes a media story and that's one the reasons I think direct military interventions is the last resort from now on.
Infiltration of the security services by Russia has been a longstanding problem.
If anyone is interested, here is a piece written about this issue at the end of 2014:
https://mashable.com/archive/russian-vs-ukrainian-spies
This is a sick sick country, unfortunately, very few have listened to the warnings of Poland/Baltics.
If Russia pauses, time to take NATO troops into Ukraine, let Russia attack them in a few years if they're stupid enough.
Whats the deal with him anyway? He basically started this mess, but on his twitter feels like hes rooting for ukraine?
@GirkinGirkin isn't Igor Girkin. That's a Ukrainian dude who presumably invoked his name to confuse (pro-)Russians.
Right, that would explain things
For real? I've seen it reported as being him but he's just pointing out Russia's failings to give them a kick up the arse or something. Or am I thinking of a different account?
This does show a potential need for more Western ordnance.
Interview with former NATO Sec-Gen:
According to the politicians yes. But if you listen to the actual people that run the plants, it's possible to keep them running.
No wonder the moral is so high among the Russian troops, worst case scenario dad gets a brand new Lada.
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Good question, I guess they didn't fly
Give ‘em couple dozen more HIMARS/M270, give ‘em 100 or so cheap M109 155mm guns, then watch them push that line back.
The cost of no not doing that (longer war) is higher.
Igor Girkin posts on Telegram in the manner you say. Does a lot of long ramblings on Russia's military strategy.
Can't be too enjoyable, Russians are seriously hated in Italy right now. I can't imagine the reception is too welcoming though I suppose there aren't actually many Italians in Venice.
Or people are not aware who the guy is in general.
Incredible what you can get away with and turn people into with complete media control and 24/7 brainwashing.
Westerners need to realise this is Putin's most powerful weapon and he's always known that.
Judging by the damages in the video, the bridge has been hit by artillery rounds, that suggest that the Ukrainians are now able to set up artillery positions within 40km of the Dnepr. If that is the case they can also cover the highway towards Nova Kakhovka with artillery fire. The Russians will struggle massivly to resupply their troops in Kherson city if these two roads have been cut off.
Unfortunately, multi-millionaires are not like us simple humans, so they don't really care what people think about them. Most of the people they interact with are like servants to them...
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Forgive my ignorance of geography. Is this a bridge connecting 2 parts of the Ukraine or a bridge connecting Kherson to Russia? If it's within Ukraine isn't that going to make it very difficult for Ukraine to form any counter offensive in the future
It's the first and yes it would make it harder for the Ukrainians to cross the Dnepr but there are other bridges further to the east. The thing is the Russians would almost certainly blow up the bridge anyway if they retreated from Kherson, so it's possible the Ukrainians see it as already lost. The fact that they only hit it 2 or 3 times, inflicting what looked like just non critical damage could mean that they were just sending a warning to the Russians in Kherson, "get out now or risk encirclement".
It's within Ukraine, Kherson City sits on the North side of the Dnipro River, of which there are only two bridges in the area linking it to Southern Ukraine and Crimea. For this reason, Kherson should never really have fallen in the first place with there being such bottlenecks, apparently Russia managed to buy those responsible for the areas defense however.
It would indeed make it very difficult for counter offensives further south if this bridge was destroyed, doubt they want that. I expect these are more like warning shots to let Russia know their supply/retreat route has now got artillery trained right on it.
On the other hand they may decide the only way to liberate Kherson is to take out these bridges, and that will be the priority. It may at least make the job easier and save Ukranian lives.
Its obviously being done to restrict Russian troop movements and supplies. They can rebuild it after the war. Its not critical to the Ukrainians since they can move across fields and other unpaved land.
Here is a map with markers of the two bridges near Kherson and the next closest bridge/dam, which is about 60 km upriver. As others have pointed out, the bridge allows for the Russians to resupply Kherson and maintain control on the East side of the river. If they are cut off, it would doom the occupation of Kherson and effectively preclude any future Russian offensive towards Odesa, which may allow the Ukrainians to reopen Odesa for shipping grain, etc.
Probably just postering rhetoric but worth noting.