At a guess (and I realise you’re a random Spurs fan), do you think the saboteurs are people who didn’t live in Russia pre-invasion, and have now infiltrated, or are they Ukrainians who have been living in Russia for a longer period?
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At a guess (and I realise you’re a random Spurs fan), do you think the saboteurs are people who didn’t live in Russia pre-invasion, and have now infiltrated, or are they Ukrainians who have been living in Russia for a longer period?
He sounds like a kunt. Did not watch
You just have to laugh at this absurdity.
If Liverpool win the treble/quadruple this year this scenario might be quite welcome.
It's strange seeing this level of absurd propaganda from the Russians around a war where we get updates from the warzone relatively quickly.
I'd guess it's more the latter. Ukraine has had years to prepare for the possibility of a further Russian invasion, so it's likely IMO that they embedded many agents inside Russia during this time.
At first I thought that it's an old video where he threatened to turn USA into radioactive ash. He does it from time to time.
Soooo...just found out Margarita Simonyan can speak English. It feels really weird hearing a propaganda nutter like her talk in English. I don't really know how to explain it.
It's like you get the feeling or realization that they actually do see the world like we do, as in they're not living in a totally different reality. They can understand us damn well without translations.
It's like you get the feeling or realization that they actually do see the world like we do, as in they're not living in a totally different reality. They can understand us damn well without translations.
It would take decades to transform Russian society, even if a liberal, pro-Western government took power.
The first step would be to instil in people a sense of being citizens - individuals with the inalienable right to speak, to act and to access information - rather than (as now) largely just passive inhabitants of a territory who are used to being dictated to.
Without that, the establishment of the essential pillars of democracy - a free media, independent judiciary, fair elections etc - will not take sufficient root to thrive.
ok then
Imagine for whatever reason you are in the British (or wherever you are from) army. It’s a war and a superior officer says to shoot an unarmed guy.
If you don’t he and the rest of the troop will shoot you.
It’s very clear if you refuse that they will shoot the unarmed guy and then kill you anyway.
What do you do?
I’ll give you a clue - not many people choose the honourable option when the shit hits the fan.
I suspect you would be no different so you can stop the moralistic holier than thou shit, which I strongly suspect (like 99.9% of us) you know feck all about
Not even the Nazis killed their own soldiers for refusing to commit war crimes. I think there might be one recorded case. In most cases they were simply transferred, with no negative repercussions beyond that. This includes concentration camp guards.
Basically, you're making up a scenario which fits your argument.
I think most Russians just want decent jobs, security and peace like the rest of the world. It's the poor and uneducated who believe in Putin's lies and I think they will turn on him as soon as someone offers something better.
He neglects to tell his viewers that his tidal wave wouldn't wipe out the UK's ability to incinerate every major Russian city (and plenty of smaller ones too) in response, using just one Trident submarine.
I knew somebody would beat me to it! #nullandvoid
Do you happen to know if the PM can change the content of the letter of last resort? I presume she or he can?
Also…should raise a lot of moral questions? The way some people talk about it, the solution to Russian imperialism is Western colonialism.
old habits die hard
In a way the solution isn't Western colonialism, but the end of colonialism. Russia is the last existing colonial empire. It often isn't realized that huge amounts of what is today Russia was colonized at the same time like the Americas etc. This colonial/imperial mindset still prevails and we have seen it vanish in almost all former colonial empires (except the Brexiteers who dream about returning to imperial glory, but that's a different story...). The Russian colonial empire has to be broken down, the colonies freed and be welcomed into the world.
I believe this would be possible to be a step in the right direction, as we for example see a country like Kazakstan, which is a former Soviet Republic, being close to Russia but still not supporting their war in Ukraine.
I agree with the point about colonialism. I don't mean to be pedantic or to derail, but the UK and France (to name two) are still imperial states. The UK has a very recent history of mistreating colonised peoples.
Straight from the main page on CNN.
Russians plunder $5M farm vehicles from Ukraine -- to find they've been remotely disabled
When it comes to farm vehicles, you don't steal John Deere. Instead John Deere rips you off if you don't buy.
That has to be utterly embarrassing as a demonstration of what an army of thieves those Russian troops are and then the epic fail of bringing remotely disabled hardware.
Russians plunder $5M farm vehicles from Ukraine -- to find they've been remotely disabled
When it comes to farm vehicles, you don't steal John Deere. Instead John Deere rips you off if you don't buy.
That has to be utterly embarrassing as a demonstration of what an army of thieves those Russian troops are and then the epic fail of bringing remotely disabled hardware.
I love the way the Russians stand there telling lies and keep a straight face.
I remember watching Donald Trump do the same thing
I also remember Boris Johnson doing it.
But when it comes to Donald and Vladimir I think they actually don't care if you know they are lying because they nobody can challenge them.
I remember watching Donald Trump do the same thing
I also remember Boris Johnson doing it.
But when it comes to Donald and Vladimir I think they actually don't care if you know they are lying because they nobody can challenge them.
I don't know. I'd imagine they can - because who is going to stop them?
Edit: If it were my letter to the captain (and I could be absolutely sure that the contents were kept secret), it would say "do nothing, just ensure as best you can the survival of yourself and the crew."
Because if deterrence had failed and a wholescale nuclear war has erupted to the point where the UK had been wiped off the map, I would see no point in simply adding to the destruction and lessening the human race's chances of survival.
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Stop talking nonsense mate it's not the thread for bullshit hypotheticals to justify committing atrocities.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...083e6f90787701#block-626f4a498f083e6f90787701
Associated Press has filed a story saying that the Ghost of Kyiv, an unnamed fighter pilot who was praised for supposedly shooting down several Russian planes, is in fact a myth.
Ukrainian authorities admitted that the legendary pilot was a myth.
“The Ghost of Kyiv is a super-hero legend whose character was created by Ukrainians!” Ukraine’s air force said in Ukrainian on Facebook.
The statement came after multiple media outlets published stories wrongly identifying Major Stepan Tarabalka as the man behind the moniker. Tarabalka was a real pilot who died on March 13 during air combat and was posthumously awarded the title Hero of Ukraine, Ukraine’s air force said last month.
But he was not the Ghost of Kyiv, the force said in Saturday’s statement. “The information about the death of the The Ghost of #Kyiv is incorrect,” Ukraine’s air force wrote in a separate post Saturday on Twitter. “The #GhostOfKyiv is alive, it embodies the collective spirit of the highly qualified pilots of the Tactical Aviation Brigade who are successfully defending #Kyiv and the region.”
Associated Press has filed a story saying that the Ghost of Kyiv, an unnamed fighter pilot who was praised for supposedly shooting down several Russian planes, is in fact a myth.
Ukrainian authorities admitted that the legendary pilot was a myth.
“The Ghost of Kyiv is a super-hero legend whose character was created by Ukrainians!” Ukraine’s air force said in Ukrainian on Facebook.
The statement came after multiple media outlets published stories wrongly identifying Major Stepan Tarabalka as the man behind the moniker. Tarabalka was a real pilot who died on March 13 during air combat and was posthumously awarded the title Hero of Ukraine, Ukraine’s air force said last month.
But he was not the Ghost of Kyiv, the force said in Saturday’s statement. “The information about the death of the The Ghost of #Kyiv is incorrect,” Ukraine’s air force wrote in a separate post Saturday on Twitter. “The #GhostOfKyiv is alive, it embodies the collective spirit of the highly qualified pilots of the Tactical Aviation Brigade who are successfully defending #Kyiv and the region.”
https://www.airforcemag.com/ukraine...officials-say-thats-not-a-recipe-for-success/
Ukraine Wants F-16s, But USAF Officials Say That’s ‘Not A Recipe for Success’
RAMSTEIN AIR BASE, Germany—Ukraine is calling for modern American fighter jets to face Russia’s overwhelming air advantage in the contested skies over the war-torn country, but senior Air Force officials say American F-16s, which require lengthy training, are not yet part of the aid picture.
More than 40 nations gathered at Ramstein Air Base, Germany, on April 26 to consider what type of weapons to supply, including air power assistance such as F-16s, to Ukraine. The war is now shifting to the eastern front in the Donbas region, an area where long-range weapons are desperately needed.
Ukraine Wants F-16s, But USAF Officials Say That’s ‘Not A Recipe for Success’
RAMSTEIN AIR BASE, Germany—Ukraine is calling for modern American fighter jets to face Russia’s overwhelming air advantage in the contested skies over the war-torn country, but senior Air Force officials say American F-16s, which require lengthy training, are not yet part of the aid picture.
More than 40 nations gathered at Ramstein Air Base, Germany, on April 26 to consider what type of weapons to supply, including air power assistance such as F-16s, to Ukraine. The war is now shifting to the eastern front in the Donbas region, an area where long-range weapons are desperately needed.
“To effectively protect our territory, Ukraine requires at least one squadron of modern fighter jets, such as American-made F-16s or F-15s,” former commander of the Ukrainian Air Force Serhii Drozdov wrote in an April 19 opinion piece.
“According to our estimates, our pilots can learn to fly such jets at an accelerated pace of two to three weeks,” he added.
That’s an extremely accelerated timeline. The Basic course at the F-16 schoolhouse at Luke Air Force Base, Ariz., takes about 9 months and includes academics, simulation training, and flight sorties. But even before students arrive at Luke, they must complete six months of basic flight training in the T-6, seven months in the T-38, and six to eight weeks learning basic fighter fundamentals and advanced fighter maneuvers in the AT-38.
Italian media continues to get worse:
That’s a good point. And historically lots of Ukrainians travelled to Russia to work (not sure if that’s changed much since 2014), so I guess opportunities for getting people in were quite prevalent.