Agree with that.
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Agree with that.
They won't have to. They will be giving up to15 years for anyone who spreads "fake information" about the army. There are also rumors about them imposing martial law.
Apparently Russia have a strategy called 'escalate to deescalate' which essentially means using a tactical nuke to show their enemy that they're ready to push a conflict further than their enemy is willing to. The idea that their enemy will then come to the table to negotiate rather than risk escalating into a full nuclear war.
Personally I tend to agree that the west that we wouldn't escalate in such a case. The ultimate question becomes are we going to end our own civilisation (I'm talking about the actual nuclear armed states here) for another country. I'm even sceptical that the like of the US, France and UK would escalate for most non-nuclear NATO states.
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Schools and ambulances are the most dangerous places
They are the first targets by the russians
They are the first targets by the russians
Makes hope.
Which is why we should consider always leaving him something to lose, shouldn't we? At least unless we're very, very sure we can finish him before he can press the kamikaze button
Not that I think he will use nuclear weapons of any sort.
But just to point out that the bombs used on Japan were Atomic Bombs.
Whereas modern nuclear weapons, including tactical ones are Thermonuclear or Hydrogen Bombs. Because they are smaller and significantly more powerful than an Atomic Bomb.
Trump wont get a 2nd term, I dont think so, but thats for another thread
Sad but true I am afraid.
I just hate seeing innocent people being murdered and a democratic nation being bombed and starved into submission, for no good reason at all.
Exactly that, it'll go no further than that soundbite. They think we're bloody stupid.
People seem very assured that Putin won't use a nuke, presumably those with such a belief think none of the western states would ever use a nuke if losing a war against Russia?
Personally, i think they have been trying to bait NATO in to fight, and not just for this reason. There have been numerous examples
They’re not wrong sadly.
The west wouldn't lose against Russia.
Wtf?
Very strange last phrase.
Ban.Totally inappropriate.
Russia isn't losing a war against us. Nobody has invaded them. There is no threat to the country.
If somebody actually invaded Russia they would be well within their rights to use nuclear weapons to defend themselves.
I said upthread Nato joining gives Putin an excuse. At the moment they're being embarrassed on the global stage by a third tier military. Nato countries are providing quite a lot of important assistance in terms of modern weaponry and intelligence but it's on the quiet, if Nato get openly involved he can shift blame for the Russian military's failures to them and stoke up nationalism domestically.
Correct. Apparently developed by Putin, after the Kosovo war where the US air-force was able to easily neutralize important parts of Yugoslavian defense/forces, that before was thought to be possible by using only nukes.
Putin realized that they cannot win a war with NATO and that the balance of power now is completely in favor of US/NATO, so if Russia is put into a corner (be it invasion, or something extremely strategic for them like Ukraine), the idea is to escalate (e.g., use a tactical nuke) to bring NATO to the negotiation table to end the conflict (de-escalate).
Both fission (Hiroshima/Nagasaki) and fusion (thermonuclear) are called atomic bombs. I think that nowadays most countries use fusion ones cause they are significantly more powerful.
What in the hell?
To be fair, Putin would regard that as a grave insult.
pretty sure homophobic abuse isn’t allowed wtf?
Citizens from the west: Putin knows he ain't winning a war against us
Putin: Captures biggest nuclear facility in Europe.
This shit isn't making sense. Been told everyday that Russia is losing this war by the worst figures ever, and now this?
Putin: Captures biggest nuclear facility in Europe.
This shit isn't making sense. Been told everyday that Russia is losing this war by the worst figures ever, and now this?
They were being ironic because Putin doesn't like homosexuality
I think that's the joke but it definitely didn't come off.
Russia is doing quite well in the south. But they are literally stuck in the mud in the north.
And in general they are advancing, they are just performing worse than expected while the Ukrainians are doing much better than expected.
I don't think I've seen anything that suggests they're losing the war, more so that they are meeting much fiercer resistance than they anticipated and it's not going at all to plan. Obviously they will overcome Ukrainian forces eventually but it has clearly been a much more difficult and costly fight than they'd hoped it would be, and they've been punished by the west far more than they probably would have expected, too.
Sorry - who from the west has said Russia aren’t going to take the major cities in Ukraine? It’s inevitable they’ll take Kyiv. That doesn’t mean they’re going to “win” the war in the long term.
We are not at war with Russia. They're invading Ukraine which is being backed in a limited sense by the west. I'm not sure anyone sensible thought that any Russian invasion would fail. Most sensible people thought that it would've been easier for Russia than it has been. Most people hope that Ukraine can prevail against the odds.
Russia is suffering much heavier casualties than anyone thought they would, they're also being held back by heavy resistance that is doing a much better job than anyone thought. Just because he captured a power plant, doesn't mean he's beaten the West, because if it came down to it, the West would win the war before Putin could even take a piss.
To be fair Im pretty sure selling the mansions for several million pounds and then buying something like 50 flats / houses is going to be more impactful
The economic sanctions are beginning to take effect. Russian debt is crashing and they have started missing interest payments. Doesn't count as a default yet but it's not good and they will be paying for it in the form of higher interest rates for years.
Wonder if Jacob Rees Mogg has been advising the Oligarchs on disaster capitalism.The economic sanctions are beginning to take effect. Russian debt is crashing and they have started missing interest payments. Doesn't count as a default yet but it's not good and they will be paying for it in the form of higher interest rates for years.
Why doesn’t it make sense?
Narrative has been the same since about day 2. Russia will eventually take over all the Eastern big cities and likely Kyiv but have underestimated resistance levels and suffered a lot of casualties (how many we don’t know but Russia said 500 and currently Ukraine says 6000+). Anything near a hostile border will be taken by Putin. We don’t know if they’ll stop at Kyiv and then push onto Lviv but it would arguably be amongst the biggest military feck ups ever by Russia if Ukraine could actually ‘win’ on its own given the military difference in every single department that Russia has.
Make no mistake, being able to just bombard the hell out of cities and destroy them isn't 'winning the war'.
I think it more or less looks like this, based on what I've read and discussed with people who know way more than me:
- Russia tried to take the country quickly and install their own government, it turned out resistance was much harder than they expected and they were not as welcome there as they thought
- Russia have now entered a strategy of just hammering cities, to which Ukraine can put no resistance
- There is no realistic chance of Russia holding all of Ukraine over the long term, so most likely they will sit on the Eastern Ukraine where the resources are, and may give less attention to Western Ukraine
- Ukraine are keeping a lot of their resources on the West of the country too, in order to ensure that supplies keep coming
- NATO and US have done their work in terms of equipment and sanctions but will not make any further steps in order to not escalate this into WW3. They are most likely hoping that over the long term sanctions are going to impact Russia and cause change in order. Chances of global military conflict are miniscule.
- It was a grossly miscalculated invasion which has gone much worse than Russia had planned for
- In the meantime thousands if not millions of civilians are going to die just because Putin does not like how hard it is to invade a sovereign country and make it yours.
It is apparently difficult to not be racist on tv.