Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Frosty said:
Liz Truss is, like most of the Cabinet, utterly incompetent and should never be anywhere near a great office of State, but even so blaming her is laughable.
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I thought so myself. I’m not a fan of the current government and it’s individuals however I must admit the PM has spoken better than other European leaders and has taken action must sooner.
 
Sarni said:
BTW it's bollocks when they say that their nuke operators have been put at high alert. Just listened to an interview with a Polish military expert and those forces have been at high alert for every single minute of the last 60 years.
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Missile silos are always staffed by all that have them, regardless of alert status. In that sense they're always alert. The real changes of heightened alert status (and these are all just possibilities, have no idea which the Russians would actually undertake for each level): readying additional silos with missiles that were maybe down for maintenance, putting more missile submarines to sea, more personnel at bomber bases having to be at base. For the US the higher levels probably include bombers starting to do patrols around the clock.

These real world actions are the meaningful part of raising alert levels, but they come at a cost in terms of equipment and personnel readiness, so they can't be kept up indefinitely. Eventually all of the equipment needs maintenance, and the personnel needs rest.
 
stefan92 said:
Sure he is.
Became rich in a very shady way. No one cared.
Financed illegal jewish settlings in the West Bank. No one cared.
Now when he finally seems to be on the right side is when people start calling him out? That's ridiculous.
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Stealing Russian public funds and Palestinian land is not frowned upon. Most of us simply don't care.

Regarding "the right thing". There are no genuine negotiations. Putin is just playing around.

Dans said:
Substitute "no one" with "Tory party and Chelski fans" please.
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To be honest, it is not limited to the Tory party and Chelsea fans. Most of the establishment in England has been quite friendly to the Russian oligarchs. And to the dirty money in general. It was a big mistake and a strategic error as established by Navalny.

Abra is being called out for his relationship with Putin. He is one of Putin's enablers. And if there is no crackdown on Putin's friends and their ill-gotten wealth, the financial sanctions targetting Putin's inner circle will be rendered meaningless. And all that will be achieved with these sanctions would be hurting the people in Russia. The regime would still be strong enough and rich enough to hold on to power.

Boris Johnson is coming under real pressure to do something about Putin's friends in Engaland and their money. It is about time.
 
MTF said:
Missile silos are always staffed by all that have them, regardless of alert status. In that sense they're always alert. The real changes of heightened alert status (and these are all just possibilities, have no idea which the Russians would actually undertake for each level): readying additional silos with missiles that were maybe down for maintenance, putting more missile submarines to sea, more personnel at bomber bases having to be at base. For the US the higher levels probably include bombers starting to do patrols around the clock.

These real world actions are the meaningful part of raising alert levels, but they come at a cost in terms of equipment and personnel readiness, so they can't be kept up indefinitely. Eventually all of the equipment needs maintenance, and the personnel needs rest.
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They would have been at high alert since the minute operation started anyway. This likely meant nothing in practical terms.
 
711 said:
That's an explanation, thank you, although it still irritates :)
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Just bookmark those comments for the inevitable war that is started because someone used the wrong flag on twitter.
 
Sarni said:
BTW it's bollocks when they say that their nuke operators have been put at high alert. Just listened to an interview with a Polish military expert and those forces have been at high alert for every single minute of the last 60 years.
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Exactly. Or what is the point of having them if not to pose a credible threat.
As I have mentioned, their guidence systems are constantly checked and targets updated.
And just like the US & UK, lots of them are already in submarines under the sea.
 
prateik said:
I stumbled upon one of his videos a few months ago. the guy is an absolute clown.
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Starts out by comparing Ukraine to Don Corleone and says Russians would never ever hurt civilians. :lol:

I'm letting it run in the background as entertainment.
 
Tibs said:
Are they attacking Donetsk though? Or BS?
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There's no evidence to suggest they are.

Generally speaking, Twitter usually gives us images and video of everything. Some of it is fake while some of it is real.

But there doesn't appear to be anything - either potentially real or potentially fake - that corroborates the RT claim. If it was true, you'd expect there to at least be something that was somewhat convincing.

So most likely, it's BS.
 
General_Elegancia said:
Right now, Russian rubel is becoming joke. Putin has made some big mistakes about his plans cause a lot of troubles to Russia especially economics. In the future, Russian rubel will have a value as much as blank paper. I feel like Russia must uses a lot of gold reserves future.
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Welcome to european Zimbabwe. A trillion rubles for a cup of polonium tea.
 
Dante said:
There's no evidence to suggest they are.

Generally speaking, Twitter usually gives us images and video of everything. Some of it is fake while some of it is real.

But there doesn't appear to be anything - either potentially real or potentially fake - that corroborates the RT claim. If it was true, you'd expect there to at least be something that was somewhat convincing.

So most likely, it's BS.
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True....I'm just aware that as much as RT are likely to lie, so is our Western media....Ukraine are busy defending right now.
 
Smores said:
Is RT a direct propoganda line from the Kremlin or is it like the Daily Mail/Fox News spinning whatever direction they think the government is going in?
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Both. They are directly financed by the regime. And subject to whatever censure the local state media are subjected to.

When it comes to objectivity, they are far worse than Fox or whatever biased western media you can think of (with maybe the exception of Israel coverage, where some of our media tend to get very creative at excusing all atrocities).
 
Tibs said:
True....I'm just aware that as much as RT are likely to lie, so is our Western media....Ukraine are busy defending right now.
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Nope. It’s not nearly as much.
 
Water Melon said:
Come on, we need some good news. Doubt it will be the end of the war. Here is hoping we will start having updates on the results soon.
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There's already a russian version of it up, through their news - Ukraine asked total russian retreat, including Crimea (which is absolutely what I personally believe they should demand) which they find unacceptable.
 
Russia blaming Truss for having to increase nuclear alert (which of course the BBC uses as a clickbait headline :rolleyes:)

Misinformation and now a bit of ‘divide and conquer’ tactics (while ignoring all the shit they do). How do Russia think such outdated shit tactics work in modern day?

…. Mr Peskov said: "Statements were made by various representatives at various levels on possible altercations or even collisions and clashes between Nato and Russia.
"We believe that such statements are absolutely unacceptable. I would not call the authors of these statements by name, although it was the British foreign minister."

:)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60558048
 
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