Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

VorZakone said:
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I just can't see a world where Putin allows this to end without Ukraine making concessions that no right minded country can afford. I really do hope I am wrong but he will need something of significance to sell along with the rest of his failing propaganda and how does Zelenskyy give anything up in the face of the bravery their people have shown.

I can only see this being ended by the Russian people, I hope so badly to be wrong because god knows how and when that would play out.
 
I am not hugely educated on the subject so forgive what I feel is a very open ended question.

If a Nato country managed to have Putin killed, what do people think the fallout would be?
 
OverratedOpinion said:
I am not hugely educated on the subject so forgive what I feel is a very open ended question.

If a Nato country managed to have Putin killed, what do people think the fallout would be?
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Just attempting it is a declaration of war and we're back to the nukes talk
 
rpitchfo said:
I know Russia has 6500 war heads, but how could they actually launch at once?
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if their invasion has taught me anything about russia’s military capability and execution i can only imagine that they’re probably all daisy chained together by a fuse wire and putin lights the end of it with a sparkler and they set themselves off one by one with all the pomp and circumstance of a damp bonfire night.
 
Rightnr said:
Exactly why I think all this naive talk of 'it'll never happen'. Some of the same people were saying Putin would never invade earlier this week.
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Yes, but being wrong about the first is very embarrassing because you have to come on here and admit you got it wrong. Being wrong about the second you get to be dead which is much less embarrassing.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
I am not hugely educated on the subject so forgive what I feel is a very open ended question.

If a Nato country managed to have Putin killed, what do people think the fallout would be?
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We really really need the Russian people to get rid of putin. The only other way is through conflict.
 
rpitchfo said:
We really really need the Russian people to get rid of putin. The only other way is through conflict.
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That is my belief as I mentioned the post before but I just wondered if anyone had any insight to the politics of Russia (who would replace him, what their likely response would be ect.)
 
rpitchfo said:
So there are 1500 different launch chambers?
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They'll be spread across the nuclear triad. Most are ICBMs, whether in bunkers or on mobile launch platforms, some will be bombs on planes, and the rest will be on subs.

Subs maintain second strike capability, meaning if Russia launches nukes, the US, UK, and France would be able to respond. Russia also allegedly has a dead-man switch on their nukes.
 
Raoul said:



Don't hold your breath over these talks. They are likely Putin's attempt to lower the temperature on sanction momentum and make him appear vaguely rational.
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Yeah, or even "we tried to negotiate but they refused." And it'll turn out that the Russian delegates immediately demanded Ukraine territories and the installation of a puppet for whatever remained.

Then Putin can go back to threatening everyone with WW3 and refusing to back down when his bluff is called. I hope that we're all wrong and everything somehow goes back to normal with Ukrainians and Russians holding hands singing songs of peace under a double rainbow.
 
rpitchfo said:
So there are 1500 different launch chambers?
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No.

A lot of these actually would be ICBMs and SCBMs that can throw tens if not hundreds of missiles. For example, UK has subs that carry 4 trident rockets, each of which 'disintegrates' into 12 independent rockets. So one ship can hit 60 different targets.
 
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