I wonder how the Russian army in Ukraine feels right now. How willing to die are they for Putin? It's hard to imagine the majority believe in this invasion.
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It's baffling, seen people in here bigging up him and his army like they're some sort of unstoppable force and we all should sit back and be scared.
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Are they not just acknowledging his unreasonably large unilateral power, which is pretty terrifying.
The US military are sitting there, taking notes, and probably laughing their heads off.
They can’t put everyone in jail though, can they? I know it is unlikely, but if there was ever to be the beginning of a revolt in Russia, surely this is the most likely moment in Putin’s Russia?
Well to be a leader of a country/any country in the world you'll need a few brain cells. I'm not saying Putin is the mastermind that some people say he is but even the Caf is bewildered at the fact that he's apparently expecting to invade a whole country with a few thousand 18-23 year olds. Either the West are falsifying information in claiming Russia want Ukraine or maybe it is just like he (Putin) himself said: It's just a minor military exercise in taking out certain tactical locations within Ukraine.
I, personally think it's more probable that what Putin is saying is true more than a full on invasion.
You don't run a country like Russia since 99 by thinking you can invade Ukraine with a few thousand 20-23 year olds.
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It will certainly come at a hefty price, but right now Ukraine is paying a rather hefty price....A western intervention in terms of military action is a bad ida, as it will play into Putins hand and simply result in more support. One can always hope that someone in his circle sees the direction they're heading in, for no reason whatsoever, and they plot to get rid of Putin to avoid a disaster where there truly will be very few winners. Alternatively, one can always hope that the sanctions will be so harsh on everyone in Russia that he loses all support.
Well that's what we seem to be doing right ?
I mean any other country on earth other than Russia/China attacks a European country they'd be bombed into oblivion within a day.
But you seem to think Russia and Putin have no power at all and we (the West) are just sitting on our thumbs because our leaders are too busy having dinner.
Nah they're shit scared as well mate.
I'm not claiming Putin is some Bond villain like people on here seem to be implying I am, but if you think that Putin and Russia are some small non-powerful military power then you've completely lost the plot and to me that's worse than 'bigging them up', underestimation.
No, you 'run' Russia since 99 by removing the liberty of all that opposed you
I genuinely cannot believe the Ukrainian air force is still operational. Well done you heroes!!
I never said or indicated they had no power.
It's called hubris. Psychopathic strongmen dictators surrounded by yes men are prone to it.
Wouldn't that be a shame
Minor military exercise my arse.
Well if the same resistance is shown after Georgia and previous incursions into Ukraine, not ti mention Syria, then we are right to be scared for the people in Ukraine.
It's not that they are unstoppable but more do we want to stop them. Do we really want to upset how interwoven they are in the financial world. There are so many compromising elements.
Hardly a mastermind baddy, but certainly not a complete moron either considering how long he's been in charge and the amount of shit he's done without real consequence.
Nicely put
Exactly.
Name me another leader that can get away with as much shit as Putin ?
But he's dumb enough to believe he can take Ukraine with what the US are insinuating.
Completely misunderstanding what i was saying, so we will leave it at that. But i never said Ukraine and their people shouldn't be fearful, that wasn't the context of what i was meaning.
@harms how true is this? I haven’t been watching Russian news as in no doubt that it will be heavily sanitised.
I have however seen video footage on VK which everyone else can see if they so wished.
Do you think the average Russian knows what’s going on the ground in Ukraine and how far Russian forces have advanced? Obviously it goes without saying that Russian media wouldn’t post even very conservative casualties sustained so no point in even asking.
I have however seen video footage on VK which everyone else can see if they so wished.
Do you think the average Russian knows what’s going on the ground in Ukraine and how far Russian forces have advanced? Obviously it goes without saying that Russian media wouldn’t post even very conservative casualties sustained so no point in even asking.
He has done it inside of his country mainly. Crimea was lost because of Ukranian politicians at the time. This time around they have a truly democratic President and he has USA and EU behind him helping ptotect his homeland. Russia is in a deep shit and they are losing billions each and every day.
Carlson, Ingram and Hannity apparently.
Manchester United cut ties with Aeroflot. It's only fair that Chelsea cut ties with Abramovic.
I actually think that he is relatively smart but I think not very bright people can stay in power for too long.
Hitler is the best example, who was a total moron. Lukashenko is in power longer than Putin and is a total idiot. As recent as last year he was moaning that Putin promised to make him lieutenant in the Russian army, but he is still waiting for that, making the interviewer go laughing like a lunatic on how the Belarus president would become a Russian lieutenant. And Lukashenko was why not, Putin is too and I also served in Soviet army. This is a person who has been in power for 28 years.
Then we have Mao Zedung who was an absolute buffon, for example.
Zuckerberg will capitulate to the Russian government. Mark my words.
That’s just the bubbling drink, though… the same newspaper has today a column by Marina Hyde here https://www.theguardian.com/comment...s-oligarchs-london-government-putin-donations that goes deeper and shows how oligarchs have settled so well in London. I mean, it is not the moment to make an assessment of their penetration in the UK and in Europe, yet it is a point many will have to cnsider for what happens next, and their role in supporting (maybe unsupporting, from tomorrow?) mad vlad with the complicity of our elites, our parties and our nutters.
They have far too valuable assets to go out of business. Someone else will scoop them up in no time at all.
Let's hope so.
I want to believe that Putin fecked up and miscalculated drastically. It's just he doesn't seem like the type of guy to make a move without calculating the potential repercussions.
Is there a full translation any Russian speakers can get from this please?
That's unlikely as well — at least not in a short-term perspective. Russian military losses are restricted — you have to literally count the graves, like journalists did when the whole post-2014 war in the Eastern Ukraine happened, to get a rough estimate.
Newcastle United will get a load of new fans.
I wonder now all of this is going on if anyone who's played or coached Chelsea since Abramovich took over feel any guilt about where their money is coming from. I know probably not since they've got families to feed and bills to pay but too many bad people with blood on their hands have been allowed to pour their money into football with little to no repercussions.
The icing on the cake would be a Lukaku winner on Sunday but to reveal a blue and yellow Ukrainian tee shirt underneath his kit.