We're all scared, worried and thinking irrationally.
It's the fear of the unknown, isn't it? This is unfamiliar territory for us all.
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We're all scared, worried and thinking irrationally.
It's the fear of the unknown, isn't it? This is unfamiliar territory for us all.
Damn it. Should have figured that out by the response. To be fair though writing in crayons don't translate well over the internet.
Unlucky Vlad - now God is against you. Ain't no nuke got range to cover that threat. Game over.
Honest question: why join the military if you dont want to fight? I was under the impression thats the whole point of becoming a soldier. Being ready when time has come, no?
It looks like intel services did their job and called Putin's bluff.
... what?
Why work in security if you don't want to get punched in the head?
People don't appreciate just how much better the US military is than any other in the world either. They spend more on defence per year than the 9 other countries in the top 10 combined! Putin is banking on the West giving up nations because of the political cost domestically. If it came to real non-nuclear hot war then the Russian army would be obliterated with relative ease.
Is this a response to my posts? If so, I never joined the army voluntarily. I’m still not voluntarily part of it. This is 100% mandatory in my case.
You need to be ready but only weirdos want to fight, they exist in the military but they are not necessarily well perceived. It's a matter of duty more than eagerness.
Tbh it was going to be "my word, is this really the time to ogle women?" And then I saw a photo of her.
There's definitely a lot of warmongering going on in here from armchair generals. We know it isn't a game and yet, because we're sitting comfortably at home, it's easy to make decisions about something in the distance. The biggest worry with all of this is; how far will Putin go if he is left to do whatever he wants. I hope that tomorrow we suddenly hear about a ceasefire and the beginning of peace negotiations. I worry that Putin will scorch the Earth.
One of my former wrestlers joined the US Army because it was his way out of homelessness.
NATO saying that Putin wants to push further, some of the alliance countries being ready to provide whatever weapons the Ukranian Army may need. It looks like the risks have been calculated and the best time to act is now, before it gets too late. Imagine being in Ukraine, making a Molotov cocktail. We need to unite for the sake of those people. Some of them are dead, some will die quite soon. The longer we hesitate, the more deaths there will be. I am really optimistic now. Putin does know that it won't be easy and Ukraine is guaranteed to get all the help it needs. If it is a bloodbath anyways, let's make sure the aggressor is stopped asap.
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Your bone spurs would probably get in the way
It is anything but a fair response.
We have posted eachother quite a few times regarding running. And I can tell from those that you are an entirely decent and likeable chap, who was only stating the fears that many have.
In this life, you have to be careful who you pick a fight with. And you don't do that with a superpower like Russia unless that is an absolute last resort. And we are all a long way from that.
I get that you’re scared, it’s a human emotion. I would be too.
but, I no will say this one thing, you joined an army. We all know what that potential means, but yeah I do have sympathy for you and others like you, as well as the Ukrainian people off course. It’s easy to sit here on a forum board giving armchair opinions
Unverified reports UA ambushed and completely destroyed a Chechen column. There’s a video on Twitter but looks v graphic and not for me.
Don't listen to them, there's a lot of keyboard warriors on here seemingly who are desperate for some kind of retaliation and I assume would be nowhere near the front line if it actually got to that.
This is an appalling situation and any further escalations will make it even more appalling still. None of this is good.
Well put. Being ready if the fight comes, and actually wanting to fight are two very different animals.
I learnt on the very first day that “we train, so nothing will happen. That is the goal. If we are strong enough, good enough, that is the ultimate defense, as no one will dare f*ck with us.” And through NATO, I genuinely believe(d) that to be true.
Good to know.
I don't think he joined the army GB, he says it's mandatory.
I could be mistaken im not in the loop with military business to be honest.
I think it was mandatory for him
A couple of Western volunteers apparently fought on the Ukrainian side.
I didn’t join anything. My only other option was going to jail.
I don't think it is justified to ask everyone to pick up a weapon and fight. Not everyone is ready for that. In general, I am not in support of mandatory listing.
@harms what you think that mandate is - to call up medical staff? Sent that to my cousin, in Tver, he doesn’t seem to know. He said: “We in uncharted territory” - which didn’t fill me with confidence. Surely Putin isn’t really preparing for the worst possible outcome?
Right? I mean you'd think they'd have ample medical teams with the army already. Gathering doctors from all over russia means something went awry. Hopefully nothing to do with the Chernobyl reactors (pure speculation on my part, but who knows what the bombing may have hit)
I can only speak for my cousins that were in the British military. They were from a working class background in a part of the country with few economic opportunities. Their dad was in the RNLI and prison service so I suppose that kind of uniformed public service life was normal to them. They were adventurous types and after joining the army they were earning more than their father ever had in their early 20s. They were also doing a lot of exciting stuff like ski warfare training. They served in Afghanistan and Iraq and travelled all over the world. They both left with good pensions by their mid 30s. One struggled with PTSD after a 'rough tour' in Iraq. I don't think either joined to go fight as a primary consideration.
I think a lot of people join the military because they're brave enough to fight, not necessarily because they want to. If the flighting started then most of them would fight, but being prepared for it and wanting it are completely different.
I can't speak for myself but everyone in my family who is military or ex military just see their service as "their job", not like it was some life calling. But because it gave them stability and purpose. It's like firefighters in that regard. Fancy a job where you literally run into danger rather than away from it? No thanks, I'll stick to something with a desk and a coffee maker.
Takes a big man to admit that and I am sure we can understand the pressure you must be on.
I would not want to trade places with you. But I have massive respect for your countryman and women as well who are prepared to stand up and fight for your freedom.
In a conventional war, you'd think NATO would kick Putin's ass.
The problem is it might not be a conventional war.
As a sidenote, Ukraine's agreeing to give up all nuclear arms and become a member of the Nuclear nonproliferation treaty has come to bite them in the ass. Can't imagine Russia would be that cavalier in their invasion attempt with Ukraine holding nuclear weapons as a deterrent.
You kind of have to expect that to happen, though, don't you? I get not being eager to do it, but if I become a doctor, I'm not eager to see dead bodies either, yet this is what the job kind of looks like. When I became a lawyer I wasn't eager to defend child molesters either, but I won't hesitate if a client comes in and I have capacity. I do understand that there's much more at stake when it comes to wars, but if I personally enlisted, I'd expect to fight some day. And that expectation - hard to put it in perfect words due to the lack of my english skills - I have "conditional intent" (???? this is literally translated) - to fight.
That makes sense. It wasn't really a direct response, but it was related.
Being ready to me personally means that if the time comes, you will do what you're told and trained for withous hesitation. So I guess we're completely on the same page here.
That's sad and one of the better reasons to join the army, I guess. Poor guy.
Well put as usual.
Please remind me. Are you from Norway I believe, or was it Sweden? Think it was Norway.
Good lord, so you actually have proper ties to the Ukraine, yet you're not lining up yourself, but you feel it's ok to give someone that was forcefully enlisted abuse for not wanting to go to war in a different part of the world
5,000 a probably wish they had kept a few…….
I do understand that. Maybe I misphrased - sorry - lack of english skills. I mean, ultimatively fighting is part of the package and to be expected, so if you enlist professionally, you need to have intent to be willing/have intent to fight some day, but not necessarily be eager to do so.
Makes sense.
I would like to think that without nuclear weapons existing other countries would be stepping in.
And a full scale Nato retaliation starts. And where that would lead i dread to think. It would be a war with no winners.
In that scenario the lights and power going out in the UK would be the least of our concerns.