Is this just about Ukraine and sticking his fingers up to the west? Or how long before he decides he wants other former soviet states.
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I am pretty sure that anyone who would align with the mainstream Russian version of this war has either been banned or never made it out of the Newbies. The forum is extremely left-leaning.
Realistically probably not that long
Thinking of you, stay safe ❤
He already has Belarus. The Baltics aren't happening, realistically. Georgia might be in trouble. The Central Asian republics aren't exactly his, but they're definitely not hostile. It seems unlikely that this is just about Ukraine.
Can't help but think Moldova is next.
He intends to take more. Baltics. Moldova, Poland are rumoured to be next. Shelling has been seen 70km from Poland
If what we're hearing about the Ukrainian army and people is even nearly correct then it's not the slightest bit comparable to the situation with Iraq in 2003. Iraq had a wrecked army, no weapons, wrecked economy, and the majority of Iraqis hated Saddam (let alone fight for him), and it still took the US and the UK 3 weeks to topple his government. By the way, the areas the US and UK invaded in Iraq were also as flat as Ukraine, and Iraq is actually less than half the size of Ukraine (if you take out Kurdistan and the Western deserts).
@harms , stay safe mate!
Not Poland. Poland is NATO.
There is no way Putin will try to invade a NATO country.
Yeah, Poland is literally unthinkable. Baltics too.
tanskis measured response sums him up perfectly.
So are the Baltics
I don't think he'll dare to touch the Baltics. Not yet anyway. This could cause a WW
Knowing the russian precision and finesse, what are the chances these fecks hit Chernobyl by accident or by "accident"? I'd say pretty high.
Apparently it's a wide spread tactics used since 2014. Crematoriums, unmarked graves or anonymous coffins.
It's a bit concerning that countries more aligned with peace cede too much to an aggressive nation. Where will the line be drawn? It has to be somewhere.
The US, UK and France need to put a bit more muscle behind that commitment. AFAIK all the US heavy divisions are US based now (as opposed to during Cold War), takes a lot of logistics to move any of them to Europe, doesn't work well on short notice. I would hope they'll really ramp the Eastern Europe deployments in next few weeks/months.
Fair. Sorry for my overreacting reply. As somebody who's been an analyst and had people burst in and tell you how you're stupid and got everything wrong, it's really upsetting. Because all you do is your best, and you know the damage you've likely caused as you see it playing out on TV for weeks. It's guilt. Even now, when my words mean nothing. I feel like the asshole.
@Rado_N Yea, deep breaths etc. I'm stepping back now.
Presumably this is the line that cannot be crossed as it will cause ww3. Are we so sure Putin cares? I feel a little bit pre covid at the moment...'it won't affect us' type of feeling.
Yea they have a special brigade to repair rail infrastructure and bridges. Doesn't mean that it won't severely disrupt them though, especially if you're placing timed charges.
Can anyone corroborate this?
Yeah let's work on climate change with the guy that just threatened us with nuclear war.
Mad.
Who is this guy?
I can’t shake this myself. It all seems to be don’t fight back v Putin or it’ll be WW3 so Putin can do what he likes? Why would we defend anybody else then? Because Ukraine aren’t a part of some organisation?Presumably this is the line that cannot be crossed as it will cause ww3. Are we so sure Putin cares? I feel a little bit pre covid at the moment...'it won't affect us' type of feeling.
They’ll be an excuse next time as well
He always seemed to me exactly the type to end the world. Looks and acts like a sociopath.Presumably this is the line that cannot be crossed as it will cause ww3. Are we so sure Putin cares? I feel a little bit pre covid at the moment...'it won't affect us' type of feeling.
Russia has biggest land mass of any country so id imagine they’d get a seat at a table no matter how much you hated them.
I mean, everybody knows this by now, surely?
It seems obvious given the numbers in defence vs the numbers attacking.
Looking at the replies in this thread; it seems I am alone in hoping for a swift Russian victory to end the conflict with as few lives lost as possible.
Putin gave a big long speech about the other day. From the horse's mouth.
Not directly but he could still use other intimidation tactics claiming that the ethnic Russian populations are being persecuted. Although, after today, I would hope there is no more room for illusion on the NATO side and that any aggression against those three states would result in a military response, even if limited to cyberattacks.
I can't imagine that he dares step into NATO territory. That would spell a real war, and I don't imagine anyone really has the appetite for that, or for a real dust up with each other. Let's hope this ends as peacefully as possible and things get scaled back.
All the best to any Ukrainian posters on the forum
All the best to any Ukrainian posters on the forum
Time for clear thinking.
Not walk down a path to war and a point of no return.
Not walk down a path to war and a point of no return.
CSTO is also nothing without Russia yet we can tell the difference between CSTO and Russia. You still not making sense Dick.
When America goes to war to protect their interests, we're often up in arms to protest at the unfairness of it. The protests against the war in Iraq were the largest protests the country had ever seen. So of course we'll be up in arms if Russia does that. How are you confused by this?
You realise the difference between having an army and having nukes right? The US didn't invade Cuba by the way. And NATO didn't place nuclear weapons near Russia either.
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He has been right since forever.
Take care bro, I really hope everything is ok for you.