Only if he thinks the pact would hold.I mean that's the point, attacking a NATO country makes no sense and would be self distructive act.
Only if he thinks the pact would hold.I mean that's the point, attacking a NATO country makes no sense and would be self distructive act.
That's not happening, imo.I said a president couldn't withdraw, but what if, Trump just vetoes any arm's deal with Europe, that passes through congress?
Only if he thinks the pact would hold.
I'm not sure it's that black and white. If, for example, the US would hesitate, I could easily see this affect other partners and make them reluctant as well. It would quickly become an all or nothing situationHe'd have to think that every single NATO country would break the pact which just obviously wouldn't happen.
I'm not sure it's that black and white. If, for example, the US would hesitate, I could easily see this affect other partners and make them reluctant as well. It would quickly become an all or nothing situation
Nonsense. Countries like Poland, Estonia, Latvia, even Finland know all too well the threat Russia poses, and they're not going to let themselves be picked off one by one even if failures of governance of the major powers left them exposed.
He'd have to think that every single NATO country would break the pact which just obviously wouldn't happen.
I'm not sure it's that black and white. If, for example, the US would hesitate, I could easily see this affect other partners and make them reluctant as well. It would quickly become an all or nothing situation
Russia had planned a new wave of genocidal actions against Ukrainians long before its full-scale invasion in February 2022, according to Kyrylo Budanov, Chief of Ukraine's Main Intelligence Directorate (HUR).
“Russia’s preparation for genocide against the Ukrainian people before the full-scale invasion included the creation of kill lists, mobile crematoriums, and plans for mass burials,” Budanov stated, as reported by the HUR press service.
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/42721According to the HUR’s chief, Russian military personnel received instructions before the invasion on where to locate mass graves. The so-called “kill lists” targeted individuals such as Ukrainian language and history teachers, veterans of anti-terrorist operation (ATO), journalists, scientists, writers, clergy supporting Ukraine, public figures, and local leaders.
In that case there would be some bottles of champagne being opened (behind closed doors) at European arms manufacturers. Currently billions of Euros are send to the US defence industry that would than have to be rerouted to domestic production, especially if there is actual risk and danger of an imminent war with Russia. No US president would survive the amount of fired workers that this scenario would create in the US defence industry.I said a president couldn't withdraw, but what if, Trump just vetoes any arm's deal with Europe, that passes through congress?
If Ukraine intends on using Kursk territory as bargaining chip in negotiations, then holding it will become an increasingly tougher task.
I don't think they'll be able to hold on to it until end of January.
Kurakhove is also as good as lost, and Toretsk not looking good. A lot more territory will be lost until any peace talks start.
I'm not sure it's that black and white. If, for example, the US would hesitate, I could easily see this affect other partners and make them reluctant as well. It would quickly become an all or nothing situation
Ukrainians now using drones with mounted machine guns
They were testing some prototypes of this earlier in the war, this is the first I've seen it in actual use.
That's from a game, isn't it?Ukrainians now using drones with mounted machine guns
Such a pointless stupid weapon
That's from a game, isn't it?
Putin has not considered the unintended consequences of the war with Ukraine.
That being that NATO and certainly the countries in Europe are stronger militarily than before.
For China, Russia turned from a useful partner in certain technical areas to a cheap supplier of natural resources. So even if it's not full estrangement, Russia definitely worsened their relation to China.So you really believe that China doesn't belong to "countries that matter"?
So you really believe that China doesn't belong to "countries that matter"?
This mentality is among the main reasons the West has lost this war and sacrificed Ukraine in the process. The only hope of Biden's strategy (sic) working was to get the likes of China, India, Africa, and the rest of Asia to go along with the economic and diplomatic isolation of Russia. They didn't, for reasons I've detailed previously on this thread (to wit: you're the last people on earth to be moralising to the likes of India and Africa about the iniquity of colonial conquest. And yeah, I know I know, "WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE BAD STUFF WE'VE DONE, WE CARE ABOUT UKRAINE'S INVASION". I read the NATO guy's tantrum a few pages back). Hence Ukraine being in the mess it's in 34 months later. But sure, keep telling yourself that the West comprises "the only countries that matter" in this world. At some point even you guys will begin to realise you're not as important as you imagine you are. "The entire global order will collapse if we lose this war!!" - the West. "No it won't, get the f*ck over yourselves" - the rest of the world.his complete international estrangement with all countries that matter
This sounds like Lindsey attempting to frame Ukraine to appeal to Trump’s venal instincts of getting something in return for his support.
Rare earths is mainly about refining processes and technology, not about access to ore. So this would be dumb rationale even if it were true.
If that were true he'd be doing it privately. Zelenskiy's biggest task right now is persuading Ukrainian men to sign up to the army. Lindsey Graham going on every talk show who'll have him saying "Ukraine provides the bodies, we get their resources" is not what he needs. You think scared Ukrainian men who are already reluctant to sign up want to hear this kind of thing? "Come get a one-way ticket to the front line so America can get our natural resources" is also not the wisest approach when you're trying to persuade Europe to play a bigger financial role. Is Lindsey planning to let Germany, France and the UK in on the plundering? The same Lindsey who yesterday vowed to "crush" Europe's and the UK's economies if they arrested Netanyahu?He's obviously trying to create a selling point for Trump to rationalize and warm to the idea that a Ukrainian victory means more business opportunities for the the US in Ukraine. Lindsey is after all, a big Ukraine hawk.
If that were true he'd be doing it privately. Zelenskiy's biggest task right now is persuading Ukrainian men to sign up to the army. Lindsey Graham going on every talk show who'll have him saying "Ukraine provides the bodies, we get their resources" is not what he needs. "Come get a one-way ticket to the front line so America can get our natural resources" is also not the wisest approach when you're trying to persuade Europe to play a bigger financial role. Is Lindsey planning to let Germany, France and the UK in on the plundering? The same Lindsey who yesterday vowed to "crush" Europe's and the UK's economies if they arrested Netanyahu?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...tarmer-arrest-netanyahu-economy-b2652482.html
You're over-thinking this. This is just Lindsey Graham being Lindsey Graham, i.e the patron saint of neocons. He figures they've bled Ukraine dry, time to now wrap this up and get their money back on the project.
^^ You're 4 or 5 scripts behind on Rubio.
“I think Ukrainians have been incredibly brave and strong in their stand against Russia,” the senator said earlier this month. “But ultimately, what we're financing here is a stalemate, and it needs to be brought to an end. I believe common sense should prevail,” Rubio said. “You don't have to be a fan of Vladimir Putin to want to end the war,” added Rubio.
https://www.russiamatters.org/analysis/marco-rubio-russia-and-ukraine
I see, so your theory is that all these people are openly lying, and in the process signalling to international partners and Ukraine itself that they're about to wind down the war, only to get appointed to the cabinet of a guy who in his first term fired people left right and centre when they went off on their own agenda?
It's not how any of this works, Raoul. It just isn't. You're talking about the United States Secretary of State like he's some chancer applying for a job at Walmart.
Do these people hope to stay in his cabinet, or is the plan to work the gig for a week and then get fired for going rogue?Yes. There's a clear trend in American politics of Trump haters changing course by saying things to ingratiate themselves to Trump in exchange for his support or so they can work in his cabinet.