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Russia gave North Korea anti-air missiles in exchange for troops, Seoul says
Russia has supplied anti-aircraft missiles to North Korea in exchange for North Korean troops supporting Russia's war against Ukraine, a top South Korean official has said.

"It has been identified that equipment and anti-aircraft missiles aimed at reinforcing Pyongyang's vulnerable air defense system have been delivered to North Korea," Shin Won-sik, Seoul's top security advisor, told TV broadcaster SBS.
https://www.dw.com/en/russia-supplied-anti-air-missiles-to-north-korea-seoul-says/live-70854753
 
Thank you.

For added context - it was hardly a unilateral NATO operation.

The UN resolution to apply a no-fly zone was passed - and then the questiion was:

"Who has the capability to enforce this?" and the answer to that was only NATO.

For context, lots of other countries participated and lots of NATO countries did not participate.
 
Oh really.
The former Yugoslavia was nothing at all to do with Ukraine. It was due to conflicts between Serbia and Croatia and Kosovo.
Primarily it was about Kosovo but it was long overdue cause Serbia was wreaking havoc all around, first in Croatia, then in Bosnia and Hercegovina.
Yet for some the war started in 1999.
 
Primarily it was about Kosovo but it was long overdue cause Serbia was wreaking havoc all around, first in Croatia, then in Bosnia and Hercegovina.
Yet for some the war started in 1999.
People seem to confuse the US intervening in Yugoslavia and NATO doing so because of Kosovo
 
Russia going into actual Germany, let alone Berlin seems quite the stretch, but the Baltics are at risk, for sure.
Poland is arming itself to the teeth so the Russian's would not get very far. But like you say the Baltics are at risk due to their size, exposure to Russia and small population. Their membership of NATO and the EU would be their biggest lifeline
 
Poland is arming itself to the teeth so the Russian's would not get very far. But like you say the Baltics are at risk due to their size, exposure to Russia and small population. Their membership of NATO and the EU would be their biggest lifeline
It's the only reason they haven't been invaded already. Russia would take them in a couple of days, and all parties involved know it. I think it's terribly naive of some people to not think Putin would take the Baltics if he thought he could get away with it. All these arguments used about Ukraine, "not a real country", "historically part of Russia", and so forth, would fit the Baltic countries as well. They have a fair amount of Russian speakers living there too.
 
For added context - it was hardly a unilateral NATO operation.

The UN resolution to apply a no-fly zone was passed - and then the questiion was:

"Who has the capability to enforce this?" and the answer to that was only NATO.

For context, lots of other countries participated and lots of NATO countries did not participate.

I was supporting RAF Tornado operations, both IDS and ADV. And it was a very messy war which ended with war crimes.
 
Primarily it was about Kosovo but it was long overdue cause Serbia was wreaking havoc all around, first in Croatia, then in Bosnia and Hercegovina.
Yet for some the war started in 1999.

Yes that is quite right.
 
It's the only reason they haven't been invaded already. Russia would take them in a couple of days, and all parties involved know it. I think it's terribly naive of some people to not think Putin would take the Baltics if he thought he could get away with it. All these arguments used about Ukraine, "not a real country", "historically part of Russia", and so forth, would fit the Baltic countries as well. They have a fair amount of Russian speakers living there too.
Agree on all points. What terrifies me about the bolded part is how Putin will keep on trying to drive wedges in between countries in NATO and EU to undermine a robust common response against Russian aggression. A couple of election results gone "wrong" in Germany and France and the alliance could be undermined severely
 
Agree on all points. What terrifies me about the bolded part is how Putin will keep on trying to drive wedges in between countries in NATO and EU to undermine a robust common response against Russian aggression. A couple of election results gone "wrong" in Germany and France and the alliance could be undermined severely

But do you think he’ll achieve that (undermining) to the extent that he feels free to invade a NATO member? If you look at the areas he’s most focused on militarily, it is countries like Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, all of whom are neither EU nor NATO members.

It may be wishful thinking on my part, and for what it’s worth I think Europe and the US should be supporting those 3 countries too.
 
I was supporting RAF Tornado operations, both IDS and ADV. And it was a very messy war which ended with war crimes.

It was always going to do so, these kind of Islamic civil wars never end particularly well.

Also, what unit were you in? Our paths may have intersected. You don’t need to answer if you don’t want to!
 
I don't get it? What are they implying?

If anything, they're implying this it the latest in a series of irregularities surrounding Putin's public appearances where his video and photos appear to have been possibly manipulated to conceal various medical problems. The underlying insinuation being that he's not well.
 
It was always going to do so, these kind of Islamic civil wars never end particularly well.

Also, what unit were you in? Our paths may have intersected. You don’t need to answer if you don’t want to!

The RR RB199 engine.
I had the privilege of visiting all of the RAF stations.
 

What's incredible about it?

Are people actually thinking Putin will invade mainland Europe? This is wmd in Iraq level fear mongering.
 
What's incredible about it?

Are people actually thinking Putin will invade mainland Europe? This is wmd in Iraq level fear mongering.

Ukraine is mainland Europe, which is the entire point of opposition to this war in the first place. If he can invade Ukraine, he can consolidate his gains and use it as a staging point to foment unrest in other eastern European nations.
 
Ukraine is mainland Europe, which is the entire point of opposition to this war in the first place. If he can invade Ukraine, he can consolidate his gains and use it as a staging point to foment unrest in other eastern European nations.
He's struggling to take Ukraine, a united Europe backed by the US with gloves fully off in terms of weaponary support there's no chance. Dictators care more about staying in power, this sort of invasion would be suicide.
 
What's incredible about it?

Are people actually thinking Putin will invade mainland Europe? This is wmd in Iraq level fear mongering.
It's gone way beyond that. It's pure hysteria which grows everytime the military situation in Ukraine worsens.

He's struggling to take Ukraine, a united Europe backed by the US with full weaponary support there's no chance. Dictators care more about staying in power, this sort of invasion would be suicide.
And he can't. He has neither the military nor the economy to do so.

An invasion of the Baltic States and de facto a direct confrontation with NATO belongs to those horror tales you tell children to get them to behave.
 
He's struggling to take Ukraine, a united Europe backed by the US with gloves fully off in terms of weaponary support there's no chance. Dictators care more about staying in power, this sort of invasion would be suicide.

Trump may not be able to get US out of NATO, but overall, Europe has to fend for itself.

US is definitely ready to bail, at this rate.
 
He's struggling to take Ukraine, a united Europe backed by the US with gloves fully off in terms of weaponary support there's no chance. Dictators care more about staying in power, this sort of invasion would be suicide.

He's struggling to take it because of the all the western support that's gone to Ukraine. All this does is confirm the US/EU/NATO position on supporting Ukraine, since had they not done so, he would presently control the entire country with an eye towards the former Soviet eastern block countries, which would lead to a dangerous scenario of potentially triggering Article 5; a situation that could rapidly escalate into a much bigger conflict.
 
It seems like the warning missle from Russia was an IRBM? I missed that.

 
It seems like the warning missle from Russia was an IRBM? I missed that.



The Russians apparently tipped off the US before they launched it, since it could’ve easily gone wrong had NORAD picked up what it thought was an ICBM launch coming out of Russia.
 
The Russians apparently tipped off the US before they launched it, since it could’ve easily gone wrong had NORAD picked up what it thought was an ICBM launch coming out of Russia.

Thanks, so it was a show of capability after the weeks events.
 
Trump may not be able to get US out of NATO, but overall, Europe has to fend for itself.

US is definitely ready to bail, at this rate.

Europe is stuck between a rock and a hard place here. It already has its own defense policy (the CSDP), all the while most European nations are also NATO members. There is some degree of cooperation between both entities, but at the end of the day Europe aren’t going to go their own way on defense when they already have a policy that is underwritten by the world’s most powerful military. Trump can’t withdraw from NATO, so it’s likely the current construct will continue.
 
He's struggling to take it because of the all the western support that's gone to Ukraine. All this does is confirm the US/EU/NATO position on supporting Ukraine, since had they not done so, he would presently control the entire country with an eye towards the former Soviet eastern block countries, which would lead to a dangerous scenario of potentially triggering Article 5; a situation that could rapidly escalate into a much bigger conflict.
I mean that's the point, attacking a NATO country makes no sense and would be self distructive act.
 
Ukraine is mainland Europe, which is the entire point of opposition to this war in the first place. If he can invade Ukraine, he can consolidate his gains and use it as a staging point to foment unrest in other eastern European nations.
And force ever able body Ukrainian into the Russian army.