Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

[Mavs]

Anyone else keep seeing the magat spin online that Biden is trying to create ww3 by allowing these missiles to hit Russia and that the left wants more war, while of course Trump just wants peace for all and certainly isn’t just Putin’s spunkpuppet?

Any logical response gets met with “why should America police the world?”, as if everything happens in a vacuum and turning a blind eye would bode well for the US.

Yep, this is apparently a major escalation that threatens Trumps peace talks and risks spiraling into attacks on NATO/WW3/etc. Here is Mike Waltz commenting pretty much that:



Which is not in line with what he said earlier in the war, this is an interview from April 2022 (timestamped at 2:20)



Where he encourages cross-border attacks using the weapons that have been given to Ukraine and not to let fear of escalation drive their policy.

 

[Red Rash]

What does everyone think about the Nuclear Doctrine changes by Putin? More scare tactics?

It would be very very bad for Russia to use Nuclear weapons and the response in the West would be pretty dramatic.

 

[nimic]

Russia says Ukraine has fired US-supplied long-range missiles into the country, a day after Washington gave its permission for such attacks.

Ukraine used the Army Tactical Missile System (Atacms) in a strike on Russia's Bryansk region this morning, the ministry of defence in Moscow said.

Five missiles were shot down and one damaged, with its fragments causing a fire at a military facility in the region, it said in a statement.

What article is this from?

 

[nimic]

The problem here is if the Ukrainians (the Nazi ones) decide to strike Moscow and I'm sure 100% Kyiv would be gone and then we will see if Europe (NATO) and US responds with nuclear as well and then no more RedCafe for us because the Northern Hemisphere would be destroyed and huge parts of the Southern Hemisphere would be gradually destroyed when the radiation, climate changes hits them.

Well, at least you believe in climate change now. We're making progress.

 

[Redplane]

Yep, this is apparently a major escalation that threatens Trumps peace talks and risks spiraling into attacks on NATO/WW3/etc. Here is Mike Waltz commenting pretty much that:



Which is not in line with what he said earlier in the war, this is an interview from April 2022 (timestamped at 2:20)



Where he encourages cross-border attacks using the weapons that have been given to Ukraine and not to let fear of escalation drive their policy.

It's all a distraction of course because they know Biden basically has no choice because who knows what all Trump is going to give to his Russian handlers. I'm not opposed to ending the conflict obviously but if the next administration basically gives into Russia's demands, even some of them - how is that any different from giving into terrorists which we apparently don't negotiate with as we so often like to say.

What's really sad is that these guys are only interested in what makes Trump look good and bad. Period. Where were the Rs when Afghanistan and Iraq were bombed into oblivion.

 

[mariachi-19]

Biden is escalating this to the point where Trump can’t back down when he comes in. It will cause chaos and make him look weak and Putin’s arse puppet.

 

[maniak]

Russia starts a war and kills civilians daily in ukraine. But the escalation never comes from them. Talk about narratives...

 

[Redplane]

Russia starts a war and kills civilians daily in ukraine. But the escalation never comes from them. Talk about narratives...

We all know the Kremlin is just trying to make the world a better place, don't you know?

 

[harms]

What does everyone think about the Nuclear Doctrine changes by Putin? More scare tactics?

It would be very very bad for Russia to use Nuclear weapons and the response in the West would be pretty dramatic.

Yes. It's not as if he's not a dictator with unlimited power who actually needs to change the procedure in case he actually decided to use it.

And if I'm wrong, no one's gonna care anyway. Nuclear winter, baby!

 

[harms]

What article is this from?

It's the official Russian MoD statement.

 

[harms]

The problem here is if the Ukrainians (the Nazi ones) decide to strike Moscow and I'm sure 100% Kyiv would be gone and then we will see if Europe (NATO) and US responds with nuclear as well and then no more RedCafe for us because the Northern Hemisphere would be destroyed and huge parts of the Southern Hemisphere would be gradually destroyed when the radiation, climate changes hits them.

Hopefully Euro 2016 was a fluke...

 

[VorZakone]

 

[Simbo]

What does everyone think about the Nuclear Doctrine changes by Putin? More scare tactics?

It would be very very bad for Russia to use Nuclear weapons and the response in the West would be pretty dramatic.

We began ignoring them a couple years ago. The public statements, the Kremlin TV nonsense, the driving missiles up and down roads for the cameras, the alleged stationing in Belarus, the doctrine changes, etc, etc, etc. Its all the same.

This question always gets asked whenever they throw the next round of threats out, most people are like "must be another Tuesday", then someone will be like "yeh BUT... this time it might be different, its a 'doctine change'! omg!". No, its all the same.

 

[Simbo]

 

[Castia]

Madness how N Korea are essentially invading a European country and everybody is just shrugging their shoulders. Russia threatening a nuclear response to Ukraines use of American missiles. It’s starting to escalate and with trump coming in I’m not sure it’s going to be calmed anytime soon.

 

[VorZakone]

“The whole idea was to maybe gain some political leverage in potential negotiations, but militarily to draw the Russian forces away from the Donbas in order to liberate Kursk. And what we're seeing instead is that Ukrainian units are tied down there.”

 

[Redplane]

Madness how N Korea are essentially invading a European country and everybody is just shrugging their shoulders. Russia threatening a nuclear response to Ukraines use of American missiles. It’s starting to escalate and with trump coming in I’m not sure it’s going to be calmed anytime soon.

It will be calmed down because Trump will salute another N Korean general, write love letters to Kim Yung Un, and have off the record meetings with Trump while looking like a deer in the headlights. Like last time. Then gives em what they want and poof problem "solved".