Are there any videos of Ukrainian air defenses in action?
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Mudoch shockingly being a cnut
TBH I didn't expect Putin to go that far. This is borderline crazy for him to worry about that. This operation has been prepared for 8 years now. They can print money and I'm pretty sure Putin has briefed all the oligarchs to pull their money out from where they can hurt them in advance.
Striker of imperialism this. He doesn't really need to take over Ukraine ffs..
Trump chiming in:
I guess you are underestimating how tough things are in Russia now and have been seen sanctions. I have lived there, and make no mistake the last 3-4 year have been horrible compared to that of early to mid 2010s. Russia will continue to be used as a supplier of natural gas to Europe, but other industries will be hit hard. Disconnect them from SWIFT and they suffer, having less customers for their military industry and they suffer more. No more money to be loaned from EU, US, while rubles quickly turn into paper. Selling gold reserves, surely, but then again you are losing another strategic resource.
This is what i am saying all along. You can give Ukraine as many tanks, guns and vehicles but for fighting against super power with high tech weapons it is basically going to war with sabers against guns.
If Putin's goal really is not occupation of big cities (and it is not because for that it would take years) then this will end quickly.
Footage of allgedly slaughtered ukraine soldiers - as alleged by the russians.
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Goodness me that’s horrible.
Grim.
@Lightbringer could you spoiler that please?
Those kids all have mums dad brothers sisters… had dreams…
Those kids all have mums dad brothers sisters… had dreams…
Me neither. I am getting increasingly mad at German politicians after they have it played so nicely for so many years with Putin.
This guy was on the money months out.
i’m amazed and appalled in equal measures that something like this can still happen today. i really don’t understand how war is still gloried or pursued with how accessible the annals of history to the majority of the planet. this kind of thing on the shoulders of every small minded bigot and nationalist. on every one who still glorifies the world wars. on everyone who continues to vote for parties and politicians that want to segregate and divide people. on people that are happy to let large chunks of the population fail as they want someone to serve them a starbucks for feck all money whilst they rake in shareholder profits. russia is just a fox news or gb news on a national scale and it’s amazing how many people look at that and go “yeah, i fancy some of that, that farage talks a lot of sense.”
this is a symptom of how far we’ve fallen as race. we’ve managed to take all the benefits of advancing as a species and just fecked it all up.
the elite will move chess pieces around a board to make sure they profit from all this, the people will pay the real cost, as always, many, the highest one imaginable.
i’m just lucky that i’m currently miles away from the conflict and i have the daily mail to report on the real issues, like how much petrol prices will rise now or how many custard creams i won’t be able to buy now the heating bill has gone up. then i’ll have the ft to report bp and shell’s record profits over the next quarter. but i guess anything is better than publishing the pictures of the dead children at the heart of this war.
it’s all so tiring and so predictable and feck each and everyone responsible for this. this is bigger than russia v ukraine, this is on people who aren’t able to see that this kind of thing is always inevitable with how they think and how they act.
this is a symptom of how far we’ve fallen as race. we’ve managed to take all the benefits of advancing as a species and just fecked it all up.
the elite will move chess pieces around a board to make sure they profit from all this, the people will pay the real cost, as always, many, the highest one imaginable.
i’m just lucky that i’m currently miles away from the conflict and i have the daily mail to report on the real issues, like how much petrol prices will rise now or how many custard creams i won’t be able to buy now the heating bill has gone up. then i’ll have the ft to report bp and shell’s record profits over the next quarter. but i guess anything is better than publishing the pictures of the dead children at the heart of this war.
it’s all so tiring and so predictable and feck each and everyone responsible for this. this is bigger than russia v ukraine, this is on people who aren’t able to see that this kind of thing is always inevitable with how they think and how they act.
I doubt many in the world expected Putin to do what he has done. A huge wake up call for everyone. Believe it or not, but even China will not be want to to be associated much with Putin.
Damn. Somehow didn’t think it would come to this
Have hundreds of colleagues in Kiev including one in my own team. Really thinking of them this morning.
Have hundreds of colleagues in Kiev including one in my own team. Really thinking of them this morning.
If you don’t know what you are talking about then you don’t know what you’re talking about. Now is not the time to pretend you know what you’re talking about, this isn’t a childish game.
It is far from sanction proof. It doesn't mean sanctions will work instantly of course but make then hard enough and they will work. Put in also depends on the good will of the oligarcs and that can evaporate.
I'm not sure about that. They've been cuddling for quite a while now. China will not refuse to buy Russian resources at low prices or even give them debt. They will exploit this situation at 100% to their advantage.
If one China and Japan will be the most likely "winners" of all this. Europe, Russia and USA markets will come crashing down in case of a full scale war..
What makes you think that Putin won’t sacrifice something else? The economy is going to be fecked (it is already) and they will use the substantial reserves to keep it afloat but nothing more, I’d imagine.
Russia will release as much of these graphic images of any opposition as possible and censor anything of their own. No different to when North Korea ‘won’ the World Cup…truth is this serves no one and hundreds maybe thousands from both sides probably already dead.
That will run out soon enough.
He's taken out their defences, then his troops advance and he takes over the country. Ukraine is essentially Russia now. They will take this country as quickly as Isis took back Afghanistan.
It’s absolutely surreal watching people casually walking around and filming it.
Me too. How do we stop worrying about them? I have loads of work to do, but I'm unable to start...Damn. Somehow didn’t think it would come to this
Have hundreds of colleagues in Kiev including one in my own team. Really thinking of them this morning.
i’m happy not to drive anywhere and have the heating and electric off. i say take all their money and threaten to use it to pay for covid. it’s not like that money is going to ordinary russian people anyway. if you want wars like this to end then you need to hit the wealthy elite, they’re the only ones with power to stop things like this without massive bloodshed once it gets this far. they’re happy to see the little people fighting. they don’t give a feck about people, just themselves.
Ultimately I think Putin has made a tragic & massive mistake. He’s managed to unify the West and probably most of the World against Russia. He’s making the same mistake as many autocratic leaders have historically made and it will lead to the destruction of Russia if Putin continues down this path. Worrying times indeed.
No, only Putin is responsible for this. No matter how people acted or thought, his worldview wouldn’t change.
sorry I was wrong
starting to wonder if the crazy theories that he is terminally ill might be right. This makes no sense for somebody so risk averse and conniving