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Russians burning their own dead troops?

The reason for the jittery secrecy, several residents and workers at the site told the Guardian, was that the occupying forces had a gruesome new purpose there: dumping the bodies of their fallen brethren, and then burning them.

The residents report seeing Russian open trucks arriving to the site carrying black bags that were then set on fire, filling the air with a large cloud of smoke and a terrifying stench of burning flesh.

They believe the Russians were disposing of the bodies of its soldiers killed during the heavy fighting of those summer days
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/21/russians-accused-of-burning-bodies-at-kherson-landfill
 


At 5:09 the commentator says "if we follow your logic, why strike Poland?"

What is he talking about?
 
Some backtracking going on. Dmitry Peskov, Putin's press secretary, says that the goal isn't regime change but to help Russian speakers in Donbas.
 
VorZakone said:
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Russian morale has to be bottom of the barrel by now. Not just in the army, but among those feckless political pundits and war mongerers as well. Its been setback after setback and considering they are sending these poor feckers down there in rubber boots and no winter clothing i cant imagine they will last very long if the cold really sets in

NATO assembly just voted to declare Russia a terrorist state as well so economic sanctions will become even more suffocating.
 
Dans said:


At 5:09 the commentator says "if we follow your logic, why strike Poland?"

What is he talking about?
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I think he's basically saying that if we follow the logic of the chief dickhead, they might as well go full strategic nukes and call WW3 because that's what their constitution says to do.

Watching these clips recently it seems that there is far more open dissent on these programmes. A few have now openly said that it's a war and not a special operation and that main bellend who just casually calls for nukes to be dropped every day is getting more and more push back from a range of people. Considering nothing is allowed to be said without express approval, it's relatively interesting to see Putin's moderators at work to massage messages to the population. Unless these blokes have gone off script, but a couple have been on multiple times so I doubt it.
 
Spark said:
I think he's basically saying that if we follow the logic of the chief dickhead, they might as well go full strategic nukes and call WW3 because that's what their constitution says to do.

Watching these clips recently it seems that there is far more open dissent on these programmes. A few have now openly said that it's a war and not a special operation and that main bellend who just casually calls for nukes to be dropped every day is getting more and more push back from a range of people. Considering nothing is allowed to be said without express approval, it's relatively interesting to see Putin's moderators at work to massage messages to the population. Unless these blokes have gone off script, but a couple have been on multiple times so I doubt it.
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I was meaning, have they already struck Poland then? Was what happened on the border Russia after all as Zelensky was adamantly suggesting initially?
 
Dans said:
I was meaning, have they already struck Poland then? Was what happened on the border Russia after all as Zelensky was adamantly suggesting initially?
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Oh right, nah I read it as "why stop at striking Poland, we might as well strike Washington". Ignoring the business of the Polish incident with the s-300 missile... don't think he's referring to that.

Unless I've totally misunderstood - to be honest, these chats they have happen way too frequently so they must talk total bollocks with everything being theoretical. And that's just the clips, feck knows what the rest of the shows must consist of - bet it's proper shit.
 
Spark said:
Oh right, nah I read it as "why stop at striking Poland, we might as well strike Washington". Ignoring the business of the Polish incident with the s-300 missile... don't think he's referring to that.

Unless I've totally misunderstood - to be honest, these chats they have happen way too frequently so they must talk total bollocks with everything being theoretical. And that's just the clips, feck knows what the rest of the shows must consist of - bet it's proper shit.
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I’m certain that in a previous conversation he has promoted using nuclear weapons, and said something like “not just at Ukraine but at NATO forces in Poland”. And so the guy is saying ‘if you’re that hell bent on using weapons then why not hit Washington not Poland’
 
Turkey now supplying guided MLRS, though I think targets need to be laser painted.


"sensitive content" :lol: To Russians maybe.
 
Simbo said:
Turkey now supplying guided MLRS, though I think targets need to be laser painted.


"sensitive content" :lol: To Russians maybe.
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Which means that unlike HIMARS this system can be used against moving targets. It's a different ability and both are valuable
 
Another mass missile attack against civilian buildings and infrastructure today.


 
NotThatSoph said:
There's been some talk in here about alleged spying in Norway, with some arrests made. Drones and the like. I don't think much is known about those cases yet, but one person arrested in Svalbard is Andrey Yakunin, son of Vladimir Yakunin who has pretty close ties to Putin (Wiki link). https://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/...-er-en-del-av-putins-absolutt-naermeste-krets

What the cases involving drones mean is hard to say, because with the sanctions it's illegal no matter how benign the filming is so it can be anything. In this specific instance it's also a bit more unclear about the legalities with Svalbard having some laws about discrimination based on nationality that may or may not be relevant here. More on that: https://www.nrk.no/tromsogfinnmark/angriper-droneforbudet_-_-bryter-mot-svalbardtraktaten-1.16145691

Both articles in Norwegian, so you'll have to use a translator if you're interested in details.
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Following up on this, because why not.

A Russian has been sentenced to 90 days for breaking the sanctions by flying a drone, I believe this is the first case that's been through the system. He was not suspected of spying or for filming anything that shouldn't be filmed. It's not Yakunin.

https://www.bt.no/nyheter/direkte/i/BR649v/nyheter-direkte?pinnedEntry=238845
 
Russians seems to have had some success in Mariinka…Some lads (who have been there since 2014) that I know are fighting in that direction. We have transferred them drones and pickup trucks just two weeks ago. After loading them with goodies one of my best mates went all the way to Mariinka to deliver them, where he had a sleepover at one of the army bases just 300m from the frontline. Hopefully we hear from them soon enough.
 
Rajma said:
Russians seems to have had some success in Mariinka…Some lads (who have been there since 2014) that I know are fighting in that direction. We have transferred them drones and pickup trucks just two weeks ago. After loading them with goodies one of my best mates went all the way to Mariinka to deliver them, where he had a sleepover at one of the army bases just 300m from the frontline. Hopefully we hear from them soon enough.
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I hope they're dead.
 
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