Ruben Amorim | United meet Sporting release clause

[Dravy]

Hopefully all the tactical discussions over the next week before he takes over aren’t a waste of time. Thankfully we don’t have long to wait either. I remember it was months between ETH being announced as our head coach and having to read from loads of experts on here what Ten Hag ball is, who is a ten hag player and how he’d revolutionise us.

Hopefully we’ve all learnt from the ETH disaster and just wait to see what Amorim does when he gets here.

I hate to use the term but we seem to be cursed. Any expectations we’ve had for managers have failed to be met both in terms of effectiveness and style of play.

Will we finally get it right with him? I have no clue but I’m hopeful he can at least make us a physical and energetic team that is good in possession. We haven’t been that since the Fergie days and to be a top side in this league that’s almost a must.

This is my worry and why I'm not absolutely chuffed yet. So many times we see these exciting style of play managers arrive, and then within five games we're back to 4231 playing on the counter with the exact same starting lineup. I want that old setup completely thrown out. I would rather see a manager try and do something different and fail; than try the same old boring drivel we've seen for many years now.

This was the main reason I wasn't upset with ten Hag going. If as a manager you don't at least try to change things when it's obvious plan A isn't working, then you become part of the problem. It's fine if it takes time, but if there aren't at least signs there it could work eventually and we're spending years falling further and further down the table a good manager should try changing it up.

 

[SirAF]

I'm mad - for know - at him that he leaves, I would have dealt better with that if it was at the end of the season. I give him a 9 on 10 at Sporting and that would be a 9,5 if he didn't leave in the middle of the season.

Understandable, but a chance like this doesn't come along often for a coach and he's got to take it. It's logical that United don't want to go with an interim manager from October to May and they probably would get someone else if Amorim wanted to stay at Sporting until the summer.

 

[Isotope]

There was definite concern at the time about how his Ajax side had dropped off. Thankfully it doesn't seem Amorim's Sporting side are doing the same.

I didn't notice that concern. But there's always a concern for every appointment, even if we hired Pep.

 

[Drainy]

I can't remember people crying over ETH. I've seen two grown men crying about Amorin leaving today.

Not only that but there were plenty of Ajax fans who were critical of his communication, stubbornness and in-game management.

 

[onemanarmy]

Why does everyone put defenders at wing-back while Amorim uses wingers there at Sporting. Could be exciting and surprising how it turns ouout.

In a tougher league I could see it work with playing a winger on one side and a more defensive player on the other. Bit like Belgium NT played with Meunier (wingback) on 1 side, Carrasco on the other. Winger needs to put in a shift though.

 

[VP89]

You are still here? I thought you went with ten hag.

Do you have a problem with me supporting my club? Take it elsewhere and move on. He's gone I've accepted it the minute it happened.

Now I will probably back this guy for a longer time than most.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Let’s not pretend ten Hag was a bad choice. He was an obvious choice at the time and the highest rated available coach out there. He didn’t work out but he was a logical appointment.

Spot on.

 

[Guv77]

It's a portuguese league thing. Managers have to wear that identifying armband

Didn’t even know.
thanks.

 

[Bastian]

If anyone wants a river to Sporting vs Nacional pm me and pay it forward.

 

[Isotope]

I'm not sure the personnel will be available for him to play his 3-4-2-1 from the get go. When everyone is fit we'll probably look like this:

Onana
Yoro - De Ligt - Martinez
Dalot - Mainoo - Ugarte - Mazraoui
Bruno - Garnacho
Hojlund​

Really want to see how this might go. Dalot and Maz can interchange going forward.

Onana
Dalot - De Ligt - Martinez
Mazraoui - Casemiro - Ugarte - Garnacho
Amad - Bruno
Hojlund​

 

[Rolaholic]

Born 27/1 1985. Guess who is born seven days later 5/2 1985 in the same country? Hint, they played together a couple of times.

He also played with Lindelof go figure

 

[Bluelion7]

Congratulations to United fans. I really thought he was going to end up at City.

I think he will be excellent, especially in the PL because a lot of his tactical ideas will cause opponents issues. As much as I’ve loved Maresca so far, a lot of teams run variations of what we do, and teams are preparing to play against it more often.

 

[cpresc]

Why would anyone want to play Rashford in that position. Also what is Mainoo doing in that LAM/LF position. Also Shaw This is just wrong

Mainoo would be in an attacking midfield roaming position which I think would suit him well. And Amorim likes his striker to drift wide left which suits Rashford. Shaw is our best attacking full back, so who do you think would be a better left wingback prior to any transfers?

 

[Rolaholic]

 

[FortunaUtd]

The speed and decisiveness with which this has proceeded is amazing and very, very satisfying

 

[DJ_21]

—————— Rashford
——— Mainoo —— Amad
Shaw — Bruno — Ugarte — Dalot
— Butcher — De Ligt — Yoro


Would love to see him give this a go. Build around Rashford getting tidy passes and see if he can regain his top form.

Then get in the market for some World class wing backs and slowly phase out Bruno

Why would he play Rashford upfront? Hojlund should benefit from that formation and new style of play. Rashford should benefit from the LW. I also see Bruno in one of the attack positions with Mainoo at the base with Ugarte

 

[Oranges038]

—————— Rashford
——— Mainoo —— Amad
Shaw — Bruno — Ugarte — Dalot
— Butcher — De Ligt — Yoro


Would love to see him give this a go. Build around Rashford getting tidy passes and see if he can regain his top form.

Then get in the market for some World class wing backs and slowly phase out Bruno

Really. Any manager that is going to try and do that may as well just throw their hat at it before they even start.

 

[wolvored]

Disagree.
Surely a Portuguese manger will stick with his countryman and one of our best players.

Is he? He’s been shit to average all season

 

[FortunaUtd]

Born 27/1 1985. Guess who is born seven days later 5/2 1985 in the same country? Hint, they played together a couple of times.

And? What's the story? He's of a similar age and of the same nationality as Ronaldo? Is this supposed to go somewhere?

 

[DJ_21]

Surely Bruno can’t still be captain. Who could he give it to?

Why would he change it?

 

[Telsim]

Am I the only one feeling a bit numb about this imminent appointment?
Like am not feeling any emotions about it.

Me, too. After the magnitude of Ten Hag's failure I find it difficult to care, especially for another hipster manager. I was so excited when Ten Hag came in and it ended in such a way. I'm indifferent.

 

[Sarni]

Do we expect him to already manage us v Chelsea this weekend?

 

[mav_9me]

Indeed. If they were not, it would have made little sense for me to have said I’d have favoured them as a ‘young option’.

Ah got it. Among the young options you prefer them two over Amorim. Personally I don't have a great idea about Amorim or Hoeness. We shall see.

 

[bond19821982]

You are still here? I thought you went with ten hag.

Aah such a nice post. Kind of posts from people saying I told you so, he is crap and I knew this already

 

[wolvored]

Count me in on Ten Hag hype. Watching his Ajax side had me on high (spirit) to see United playing like that, with a much better funding for players.

I think Amorim is different to th as in he took over a weaker team than Porto or Benfica and straight away improved them to be the best. Bit like Jose at Chelsea, minus the money.
TH was at the biggest and best club when he won his titles.

 

[Marcelinho87]

Do we expect him to already manage us v Chelsea this weekend?

Yes.

 

[Monmouthshire Red]

I'm not going to pretend I know anything about him - I don't follow Portuguese football. But, he's got two chances. Hopefully he will do well and win us the league.
Either way, I don't see him being here long term. If he's gash I think he will be binned after next season. If he does well, he'll probably end up at Barca/Real Madrid.

 

[Massimo Taibi]

Two of a back three made up of Martinez and De Ligt fills me with nothing but dread based off of De Ligt’s start.

Anyway, I’m certainly wary of the appointment based on the similarities between Amorim’s managerial career and ETH’s. I think both were the best appointments at the time of United needing a new manager and think it’s the way to go right now with Amorim but having gone down this route before, it does offer the chances of history repeating itself.

 

[cpresc]

Why would he play Rashford upfront? Hojlund should benefit from that formation and new style of play. Rashford should benefit from the LW. I also see Bruno in one of the attack positions with Mainoo at the base with Ugarte

Because Rashford two seasons ago was playing at a World Class level, I'd like to see us set him up to succeed and if he flops then finally get rid of him and save the £300k+ a week. I feel like he plays with his head down too much on the left, overthinks it and just runs into trouble, but if he's upfront he needn't think so much, just be direct straight at goal.

 

[Lee565]

hasnt pep also used a back 3 quite abit over the years and would play attacking players like grealish and silva in the wingback position?

In a tougher league I could see it work with playing a winger on one side and a more defensive player on the other. Bit like Belgium NT played with Meunier (wingback) on 1 side, Carrasco on the other. Winger needs to put in a shift though.

 

[wolvored]

Mainoo would be in an attacking midfield roaming position which I think would suit him well. And Amorim likes his striker to drift wide left which suits Rashford. Shaw is our best attacking full back, so who do you think would be a better left wingback prior to any transfers?

Rashford cuts in from the left, not drifts wide left from center

 

[santeria13]

Not only that but there were plenty of Ajax fans who were critical of his communication, stubbornness and in-game management.

I remember a couple of posters saying how his 'plan A' was pretty good but he never had a plan B if things went south. He was very bad at adapting to games even there apparently. Problem is, his plan A was also trash here

They also mentioned how he was very stubborn in his selections, only giving chances to certain players due to injuries etc.

 

[Scarlett Dracarys]

Well we've had a legendary one, a couple of Dutch ones and a special one.

Time for a hairy one.

He's not a bad looking hairy one

 

[Herschel Krustofsky]

How would anyone know that? He should employ what ever system he wants as long as it makes us play attacking football and win games/trophies.

I hope he brings with him the scouts that scouted Gyökeres and Hjulmand.

Most viewed Portuguese League Cup Quarter Final in history... you'll never sing that.

Still not sure what to think of this. Listened to one podcast of so called football 'experts' describe him as tactically astute and pragmatic, even with his favoured 3-4-3.

But then I listened to another one with a different group of 'experts' who dismissed him as being dogmatic, and his main strength lies with improving the players he works with.

So, I have absolutely no idea what to expect.

Maybe just watch what unfolds and enjoy the ride.

 

[Yoro99]

How many of these feckers can speak English? Do we need to bring back Shteve McLaren to help out?

English is part of the national curriculum in Portuguese schools. These days most Portuguese can speak some English.

I was in Lisbon for a few months last year and never had an issue communicating in English with anyone.

 

[FortunaUtd]

Maybe just watch what unfolds and enjoy the ride.

Exactly.

 

[IrishMcD]

Listening to Andy Mitten just now on Irish radio. My god, he absolutely makes me sick listening to him. Sounds like he is trying to make out majority of fans are idiots who “only wanted deLigt in the summer and said he is brilliant because his name isn’t Harry Maguire” and also wanted McTominay sold but are now realising he’s top class. Worst comment was, fans were telling him “Ugarte is the Messi of midfielders”.

He then went on to suggest that someone told him, but he wouldn’t say who, that the new manager is going to be a disaster.

 

[santeria13]

Do you have a problem with me supporting my club? Take it elsewhere and move on. He's gone I've accepted it the minute it happened.

Now I will probably back this guy for a longer time than most.

I for one am happy to not be constantly disagreeing with you anymore. I like the fact that as fans we can now unite and get behind our new manager.

 

[Isotope]

I think Amorim is different to th as in he took over a weaker team than Porto or Benfica and straight away improved them to be the best. Bit like Jose at Chelsea, minus the money.
TH was at the biggest and best club when he won his titles.

Yes. I like that CV of Amorim has done.

With EtH, I liked what he's done against the big boys in CL. His Ajax side played really progressive style.

 

[narnar]

I don't know if the post is serious, but found it funny.

Who's the Ajax no.11? Looks dangerous.