Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

The video of him meeting fans on a tour. He's so nice and friendly.

I'm actually in love with him.
 
An article on Amorim… style, tactics (in and out of possession), roles for each position and who might fit those roles.

An interesting (lengthy) read and guy has apparently watched a bit of Sporting which is more than I have (just cheered them on v City). Welcome anyones views on whether this piece is accurate… @Sly ?


Interesting take on things as it stands, but I am sure there are going to be a lot of changes by next August. Be interesting to revisit and see how many players off that list are still here.
 
An article on Amorim… style, tactics (in and out of possession), roles for each position and who might fit those roles.

An interesting (lengthy) read and guy has apparently watched a bit of Sporting which is more than I have (just cheered them on v City). Welcome anyones views on whether this piece is accurate… @Sly ?



I read the article (interesting and detailed) and I would say it is accurate as regards the way Sporting has played under Amorim.
However, when it analyses the MU pecking order for each position of the future team, I believe suggesting Lisandro Martinez ranking 1st in the pecking order for the CCB is not accurate.
All CCB´s used by Amorim in Sporting (and Braga, before that) were big and strong with good control of the air space. Being fast was not the main concern. Coates is the best example; Diomande has the same attributes but he is much faster than Coates.
For the CCB role I see M. de Ligt or Maguire.
 
I read the article (interesting and detailed) and I would say it is accurate as regards the way Sporting has played under Amorim.
However, when it analyses the MU pecking order for each position of the future team, I believe suggesting Lisandro Martinez ranking 1st in the pecking order for the CCB is not accurate.
All CCB´s used by Amorim in Sporting (and Braga, before that) were big and strong with good control of the air space. Being fast was not the main concern. Coates is the best example; Diomande has the same attributes but he is much faster than Coates.
For the CCB role I see M. de Ligt or Maguire.
Yeah I thought Martinez would be more likely to be the left sided CH than central, similar reasons.

With less focus on defensive work, I can see why Dalot would be a popular WB choice.

Like the writer, I can’t see how Zirkzee fits.
 
I read the article (interesting and detailed) and I would say it is accurate as regards the way Sporting has played under Amorim.
However, when it analyses the MU pecking order for each position of the future team, I believe suggesting Lisandro Martinez ranking 1st in the pecking order for the CCB is not accurate.
All CCB´s used by Amorim in Sporting (and Braga, before that) were big and strong with good control of the air space. Being fast was not the main concern. Coates is the best example; Diomande has the same attributes but he is much faster than Coates.
For the CCB role I see M. de Ligt or Maguire.

I had the thought today that if the central CB steps forward into a holding position then it could be a suitable role for Casemiro. Then you have Ugarte and Mainoo in central midfield together.
 
An article on Amorim… style, tactics (in and out of possession), roles for each position and who might fit those roles.

An interesting (lengthy) read and guy has apparently watched a bit of Sporting which is more than I have (just cheered them on v City). Welcome anyones views on whether this piece is accurate… @Sly ?


Shaw's father out?
 
Anyway I love how this thread is going. It's full of smiles, laughs, and jokes. Feels like this isn't a thread about United manager at all. Brings me back to the old days of seeing "sack Fergie, sell Giggs" posts but in a funny way and we could afford it because we were that good. Please football gods, we have received our punishments, it's our time to be good now. PLEASE no more shitshow.
 
So is his work permit done? Read earlier players not on international duty are back training saturday or friday. We should be announcing his back room staff as well right? Welcome presser where the obvious question of have you talked to SAF done?
 
I feel like there's been so many tactical breakdowns of his tactics that everyone and their cat will know how to counter it.
 
I think we'll see more of the current batch initially

And I wouldn't be surprised to see the emergence of Obi-Martin, Mantato and others later on this season

Would be great to see Obi-Martin later in season, will be honest don't know much about Mantato
 
I feel like there's been so many tactical breakdowns of his tactics that everyone and their cat will know how to counter it.
It's not just his tactics. It's his man management getting the players to buy into him and his philosophy. It's his in game management making big and small changes in games and getting results.

I'm sure most clubs now have media experts doing analysis pre games. They don't rely on Statman Dave videos.

He plays three at the back, but that is small potatoes. How he choose to position each player in each phase of the game, what situations are press triggers, and all sorts of other things are nuances that he can play with and will change over time and change per opponent.

At Sporting the amazing thing is that they are a selling club yet he has continued success and found new solutions and new players very quickly.
 
It's not just his tactics. It's his man management getting the players to buy into him and his philosophy. It's his in game management making big and small changes in games and getting results.

I'm sure most clubs now have media experts doing analysis pre games. They don't rely on Statman Dave videos.

He plays three at the back, but that is small potatoes. How he choose to position each player in each phase of the game, what situations are press triggers, and all sorts of other things are nuances that he can play with and will change over time and change per opponent.

At Sporting the amazing thing is that they are a selling club yet he has continued success and found new solutions and new players very quickly.
That and you can bet your life on it that every single managers tactics and gameplan, even up to in-game switches they’re likely to make under different scenarios are dissected to death and readily available for anyone. But as you point out….what separates a lot of the tactics from being dismantled isn’t just quality of player at your but the level of effort put in by the collective - which a lot of it stems from the coach/manager being able to get that extra 10/15% from their players.
 
I was as optimistic when we hired EtH as I am now. But I am absolutely ready to get burned again.

Thats what a fan is right? You support your team and always looking forward to something new... I remember Jose and we signed Pogba and Zlatan, that first game.. the excitement.. same with Ten Hag but it went away quick.

Now with Amorim, I am getting really excited.
 
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Everyone blurred out but Fergie is a fitting touch. Well played camera man
 
I read the article (interesting and detailed) and I would say it is accurate as regards the way Sporting has played under Amorim.
However, when it analyses the MU pecking order for each position of the future team, I believe suggesting Lisandro Martinez ranking 1st in the pecking order for the CCB is not accurate.
All CCB´s used by Amorim in Sporting (and Braga, before that) were big and strong with good control of the air space. Being fast was not the main concern. Coates is the best example; Diomande has the same attributes but he is much faster than Coates.
For the CCB role I see M. de Ligt or Maguire.

Shorter players has a lower center of gravity which tend to help them in terms of technique. Its no coincidence that some of the most technically gifted players in football history weren't giants (ex Messi or Maradona). However that's not really a must have for CBs. Sure they'll need to hold the ball and to pass it accurately and under pressure. However they also need to be good in air and not being bullied around either which is exactly what happens when a 6ft3 striker meets a 5ft10 CB (the alternative is heavy hits that will translate into injuries)

I know that tactics had changed which means that defending is done at a higher line. But I beg to differ on that.

A- CBs are often the team's last line of defense. That means that if he's physically bullied from the ball then all that's left is the GK
B- Corners and freekicks still exist and in that case height does matter.

I am also aware that some great CBs weren't tall. Many mention Cannavaro which is kind of a kick in the teeth since Baresi should be the 'short CB' poster boy but I digress. What many doesn't tell you is that

A- The rules in the Serie A are different to the EPL. In the Serie A if a player touches the GK in any way or form then that usually result into a foul for the GK. That makes crosses less effective and forced the ball to the feet.
B- Milan under Sacchi had a compact 4 men (or should I call them legends?) defense that included a certain Paolo Maldini and which was further protected by Ancelotti and Rijkaard. The latter was one of the very few DMs who I'd say was superior to Keane in every shape and form.
C- Even the Italians are preferring height these days. Calafiori (6f2), Buongiorno (6ft3), Bastoni (6ft3) and Mancini (6ft3) are prime example of that.

I think that Martinez will survive in a 3 men CB however I am glad that we've got a manager who finally understands defending.
 
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Probably done them already, just waiting to be aired. He doesn't need a live press conference until the one for the Ipswich game.

He has actually done an interview with MUTV.. I would suspect it is aired later today?