Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

[JPRouve]

Big question for me is what to do in May if our play does not improve? Sack him or give him more time? The lack of progress is a huge concern for me. Palace and yesterday were two terrible performances. I can't see what he is trying to do.

To me a lack of improvement would only affect the type of signings that we make and not affect Amorim's job. If things improve enough then the club should be more comfortable adding players that are maybe only a good fit for his 343, otherwise the club should focus on roles that transcend systems. So as an example, you spend big on a striker, goalkeeper or central midfielder and go cheap with a potential wingback.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Also what is it about this club that ages managers within weeks, what the hell do we do to them? How can we take the pressure off a bit. I don't think the club protect the managers enough, not like they do the players at times. The fact we talk about putting an arm round a player if they are struggling, who puts an arm round the manager.

 

[Insanity]

There again aren't Arsenal a half decent side?

Against a big side the tendency has been to play deeper and let the game come to us. Completely different proposition to playing a mid-table side doing well or a well organized Spanish team. Also, that was early in the competition and the pressure moving forward will keep on increasing as we get to the crunch.

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

A good starting point would be consistently beating teams like Palace and Wolves while ensuring we’re not outplayed by sides like Southampton and Leicester at home. Establishing control in these matches is essential for building momentum and setting a higher standard. Only then can we start focusing on getting back to where we belong. But seriously, that shouldn’t be too much to ask, should it?

I’ll say it again. Why are we expecting that straight away? What has this squad shown in the last 18 months to warrant the expectation that it’s capable of that?

Who have we signed/got in our midfield that can find 15/20 yards of space and give us that control?

My argument isn’t necessarily that Amorim is untouchable. It’s that the constant clamour for a new manager that would be able to somehow get a tune out of our players is bordering on delusional.

We’ve been doing this for 10+ years and we still can’t see that it just doesn’t work for us. People confuse the high transfer fees of our squad with an expectation that they are capable of being better. When in fact it’s just our absolutely horrendous transfer policy that has finally come home to roost.

At some point the club has to try something different and we as fans are going to have to be patient. But like I say, patience seems to be something that isn’t valued by society in general. Let alone the fickle-natured sporting fan.

 

[Insanity]

Also what is it about this club that ages managers within weeks, what the hell do we do to them? How can we take the pressure off a bit. I don't think the club protect the managers enough, not like they do the players at times. The fact we talk about putting an arm round a player if they are struggling, who puts an arm round the manager.

It would be weird to put an around a person whose is supposed to be the most important leader at the club. He shouldn't need coddling.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

It would be weird to put an around a person whose is supposed to be the most important leader at the club. He shouldn't need coddling.

He's an employee.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I do hope we take some of our most promising youth players on tour and if they do well show some faith in them. Might be the answer to some of our issues is right under our noses.

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

To me a lack of improvement would only affect the type of signings that we make and not affect Amorim's job. If things improve enough then the club should be more comfortable adding players that are maybe only a good fit for his 343, otherwise the club should focus on roles that transcend systems. So as an example, you spend big on a striker, goalkeeper or central midfielder and go cheap with a potential wingback.

Let's hope that we operate along those lines.

 

[JPRouve]

I’ll say it again. Why are we expecting that straight away? What has this squad shown in the last 18 months to warrant the expectation that it’s capable of that?

Who have we signed/got in our midfield that can find 15/20 yards of space and give us that control?

My argument isn’t necessarily that Amorim is untouchable. It’s that the constant clamour for a new manager that would be able to somehow get a tune out of our players is bordering on delusional.

We’ve been doing this for 10+ years and we still can’t see that it just doesn’t work for us. People confuse the high transfer fees of our squad with an expectation that they are capable of being better. When in fact it’s just our absolutely horrendous transfer policy that has finally come home to roost.

At some point the club has to try something different and we as fans are going to have to be patient. But like I say, patience seems to be something that isn’t valued by society in general. Let alone the fickle-natured sporting fan.

Let's say that our squad is genuinely the 13th best squad in the league without good coaching, is it delusional to expect an improvement from 13th to maybe 9th best with good coaching and no signings?

 

[Posh Red]

I’ll say it again. Why are we expecting that straight away? What has this squad shown in the last 18 months to warrant the expectation that it’s capable of that?

Who have we signed/got in our midfield that can find 15/20 yards of space and give us that control?

My argument isn’t necessarily that Amorim is untouchable. It’s that the constant clamour for a new manager that would be able to somehow get a tune out of our players is bordering on delusional.

We’ve been doing this for 10+ years and we still can’t see that it just doesn’t work for us. People confuse the high transfer fees of our squad with an expectation that they are capable of being better. When in fact it’s just our absolutely horrendous transfer policy that has finally come home to roost.

At some point the club has to try something different and we as fans are going to have to be patient. But like I say, patience seems to be something that isn’t valued by society in general. Let alone the fickle-natured sporting fan.

Many seem to have no patience whatsoever, unfortunately.

 

[Acquire Me]

So you have zero opinion on how the team plays or how the team has played since November? Zero?

I have lots of opinions, but I don’t think it’s very productive to judge day to day or match to match. It’s a rebuild from top to bottom based on years and years of letting ourselves go farther and farther away from the standards required to be an elite football club.

While it’s no problem discussing issues about players, Amorims tactics or league, it does not make a difference right now. Could Amorim have done better? Sure. Could another manager have done better. Yes, obviously. But we got him now and I want to see him get a fair chance.

 

[Insanity]

He's an employee.

This is not a normal workplace. He needs to be a leader. Sir Alex was an "employee" too, but he didn't need coddling. Nor does Pep. Or Jose or any other top manager.

I am sure he is getting the support from the people in-charge. Not many managers would survive 5 losses out of 7 home games; three of which the team didn't even score. Also, it's not they were all cream of the crop. It was mostly mid to bottom table clubs.

 

[JPRouve]

I have lots of opinions, but I don’t think it’s very productive to judge day to day or match to match. It’s a rebuild from top to bottom based on years and years of letting ourselves go farther and farther away from the standards required to be an elite football club.

While it’s no problem discussing issues about players, Amorims tactics or league, it does not make a difference right now. Could Amorim have done better? Sure. Could another manager have done better. Yes, obviously. But we got him now and I want to see him get a fair chance.

I don't really get that, it just happens. My brain don't really stop thinking and putting things together, the only way I would judge things day to day, match to match or page to page is if I find a way to shutdown my brain.

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

Let's say that our squad is genuinely the 13th best squad in the league without good coaching, is it delusional to expect an improvement from 13th to maybe 9th best with good coaching and no signings?

Why are we conflating an expectation that a manager should make a negligible position change in the league table with fans continued bloodthirsty strategy of chopping and changing for the next “hip”manager who will definitely get us back where we need to be within 6 months? That’s what I’m meaning with the term delusion.

There’s a slight difference between the two. If we keep pandering to the shit squad we’ve built by changing formations and making it so they feel as comfortable as possible then we will continue to suffer in the long term. The 18 month cycle of: slight upturn for the first 6 months followed by the crash and slow painful burn over the next 12 will continue.

 

[JPRouve]

Why are we conflating an expectation that a manager should make a negligible position change in the league table with fans continued bloodthirsty strategy of chopping and changing for the next “hip”manager who will definitely get us back where we need to be within 6 months? That’s what I’m meaning with the term delusion.

There’s a slight difference between the two. If we keep pandering to the shit squad we’ve built by changing formations and making it so they feel as comfortable as possible then we will continue to suffer in the long term. The 18 month cycle of: slight upturn for the first 6 months followed by the crash and slow painful burn over the next 12 will continue.

Who has the delusion that you are referring too? Who exactly are you targetting?

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

Who has the delusion that you are referring too? Who exactly are you targetting?

Are you struggling to find them yourself?

 

[Wheato]

It's got nothing to do with formations. How does the system suddenly start working when we go a goal down? It's the mentally and physically weakest United team in ages. I'll never get over Ten Hag building a team without regard to physical demands of the league and the mentality needed to play at Old Trafford. We have forwards who can't create separation in the final third or love to go missing. We're actually lauding performances where they don't even get on the end of one threatening opportunity or try a shot. Then Yoro, Onana and Bayindir have given away momentum sealing goals in the midst of comebacks. Our defenders are prone to lapses, can barely read interceptions and can be as unpolished as they come.

We went to a 4-4 2 when Zirkzee came on. That is what changed the game.

Masroui Maguire Yoro Dalot
Amad Ugarte Bruno Garnacho
Zirkzee Hojlund

 

[Acquire Me]

I don't really get that, it just happens. My brain don't really stop thinking and putting things together, the only way I would judge things day to day, match to match or page to page is if I find a way to shutdown my brain.

I understand that. I have been an entrepreneur my whole life and I find long term goals entertaining. Not only the money, but the process getting there. Sometimes things takes longer than you would expect and you could kill the idea a thousand times in your mind. The details only matter if you are completely off. In Amorims case, he could be the wrong man, but that is all too soon to judge based on the details we got after three months.

But that’s how I work. I don’t do hasty decisions based on emotion. I do them based on evidence and I stand by them. And it’s hell sometimes, but that’s what it takes to succeed.

 

[JPRouve]

Are you struggling to find them yourself?

That's why asked.

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

That's why asked.

I’m not chat gpt mate. There are lots of posters calling for the ridiculous. Go look.

I get people questioning his tactics and I also get that Amorim should take flak when we get beat. But it’s plain fecking head loss to say he’s not good enough already.

 

[Oldyella]

Thats some eye test.

Yup. It is just my eye test though, don't expect many to agree.

It may just be I'm sick of the constant manager resets and hope we finally stick with one over the players and I'm looking for signs to cling to, but we shall see. He knows himself that wins buy him time.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Yup. It is just my eye test though, don't expect many to agree.

It may just be I'm sick of the constant manager resets and hope we finally stick with one over the players and I'm looking for signs to cling to, but we shall see. He knows himself that wins buy him time.

Think he at least does realise that things are not right, even if some are of his own making and that his job will always on the line. In the past managers were just bullish and ignored that things were going wrong.

 

[VP89]

Yup. It is just my eye test though, don't expect many to agree.

It may just be I'm sick of the constant manager resets and hope we finally stick with one over the players and I'm looking for signs to cling to, but we shall see. He knows himself that wins buy him time.

Many of us aren't asking for another reset. We are just observing how things are going and it looks pretty poor so far.

 

[JPRouve]

I understand that. I have been an entrepreneur my whole life and I find long term goals entertaining. Not only the money, but the process getting there. Sometimes things takes longer than you would expect and you could kill the idea a thousand times in your mind. The details only matter if you are completely off. In Amorims case, he could be the wrong man, but that is all too soon to judge based on the details we got after three months.

But that’s how I work. I don’t do hasty decisions based on emotion. I do them based on evidence and I stand by them. And it’s hell sometimes, but that’s what it takes to succeed.

No, we need to stop that nonsense. We can judge Amorim on how things have evolved since early November, that's a 3 months body of work. Now to me it's not enough to take any important decisions on his future or the future of the team but there is nothing that prevents anyone from judging that period and there is of course even less reason to not judge how his work evolves between now and the end of the season 7-8 months is enough to judge a manager.

That's where I have problem, there are too many terrible excuses and opinions that come from fans and the club. A manager should be judged constantly and it should not be based on whether he signed players or not, it can be a mitigating factor but it shouldn't be an argument for a blank slate or for people pretending that they don't think and "can't judge". Being patient is judging things honestly and offering the benefit of time, it's not pretending that you don't observe and draw opinions based on these observations.

Now you are just ignoring what is said. Judging/forming an opinion and taking a decision are two separate things. I can judge the first three months of Amorim and not take any hasty decisions, I can judge last night game and not take any decisions, there is nothing that prevent it and I would argue that constantly evaluating, compiling information is more productive. Take accounting as an example, is it better to do your accounting every weeks, every semesters or yearly?

 

[Sarni]

Pep and his unnecessary tinkering in big games is exactly what this reminds me of. Trying to prove a point for the sake of it

Looking forward to Hojlund at right wing back. He won’t top Mazraoui at 10 though.

 

[JPRouve]

I’m not chat gpt mate. There are lots of posters calling for the ridiculous. Go look.

I get people questioning his tactics and I also get that Amorim should take flak when we get beat. But it’s plain fecking head loss to say he’s not good enough already.

If there are lots of posters calling for the ridiculous then share it, don't tell me to look for it after your responded to my post and the posts of other people who didn't share these supposed rididculous takes.

The problem is it reads like a strawman, I have not seen anyone suggest that Amorim should have done anything more than show improvements or promises, let alone a lot of posters doing it.

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

If there are lots of posters calling for the ridiculous then share it, don't tell me to look for it after your responded to my post and the posts of other people who didn't share these supposed rididculous takes.

The problem is it reads like a strawman, I have not seen anyone suggest that Amorim should have done anything more than show improvements or promises, let alone a lot of posters doing it.

What the feck are talking about man. I’m not obliged to fecking post it for you. I responded to a poster in agreement initially. It was you who took issue to what I said! I then responded to you!! Some serious rewriting of a situation to suit you.

Go have a look in this very thread at about 8:45 last night for some questionable takes.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

I’ll say it again. Why are we expecting that straight away? What has this squad shown in the last 18 months to warrant the expectation that it’s capable of that?

Who have we signed/got in our midfield that can find 15/20 yards of space and give us that control?

My argument isn’t necessarily that Amorim is untouchable. It’s that the constant clamour for a new manager that would be able to somehow get a tune out of our players is bordering on delusional.

We’ve been doing this for 10+ years and we still can’t see that it just doesn’t work for us. People confuse the high transfer fees of our squad with an expectation that they are capable of being better. When in fact it’s just our absolutely horrendous transfer policy that has finally come home to roost.

At some point the club has to try something different and we as fans are going to have to be patient. But like I say, patience seems to be something that isn’t valued by society in general. Let alone the fickle-natured sporting fan.

Expecting what, exactly? Beating Palace at home? Winning away at Wolves—who, by the way, also had a new manager at the time? Feck me, that should be a given! Has it happened consistently over the past couple of years? No, but wasnt that whole point of moving on from Ten Hag and Ole?

People will say, give Amorim time, and I completely agree. But if we can’t beat teams like Palace at home and the argument is that we need a better squad to do so, then that suggests Amorim isnt maximising what he has—which is exactly what he was supposed to be good at.

The narrative has shifted to our squad isn’t good enough, but let’s actually break down our starting lineup:

Onana – Mistake-prone? Sure. But before joining us, he was one of the best keepers in Europe, coming from a Champions League finalist.

Mazraoui – Arguably our most consistent player this season, arriving from Bayern, a club of the highest calibre.

De Ligt – A defender with serious pedigree. He’s been playing at the top level since he was 19.

Martinez – Our best player in his first season. He hasn’t quite hit those heights this year, but he’s still a top-class defender.

Amad – Our standout player this season, full of potential and delivering when given the chance.

Ugarte – Statistically one of the best ball-winners in Europe and an ex-Amorim player.

Bruno – Our talisman. Probably our best signing since Sir Alex retired.

Dalot – Maybe not a natural left wing-back, but the club addressed that by signing Dorgu. Let’s be clear: Dalot is a regular in a highly talented Portuguese squad—he’s far from average.

Garnacho – Arguably our most exciting player. The level of interest in him during the January window spoke volumes.

Højlund – A player I expected Amorim to improve, yet he arguably looks worse. Will he become world-class? Maybe not. But could we be getting more out of him? Absolutely. He’s still a regular international starter for a strong Danish side.

Beyond that, we have Mainoo, Eriksen, Zirkzee, and Mount—all internationals, all highly rated before joining United.

So let’s not be fooled by media narratives or by what Amorim himself has said about the squad. At the very least, we should be beating the teams I mentioned. And no, it shouldn’t take a whole new squad for him to start doing that.

 

[cirilus]

Maybe its easy to understand the over reaction. We gave more time and money than deserved to the previous manager. Now half the fans want this one gone without time or players.

In this case, it looks like ineos is having the right vision. Sticking to the idea, filtering the good from the bad, spending with care. He talked like he has assurances that he will be here the next full season. But things may change

 

[JPRouve]

What the feck are talking about man. I’m not obliged to fecking post it for you. I responded to a poster in agreement initially. It was you who took issue to what I said! I then responded to you!! Some serious rewriting of a situation to suit you.

Go have a look in this very thread at about 8:45 last night for some questionable takes.

Of course you have no obligation to me but I can question a claim that you make especially when you don't substantiate it and when it's entirely meant to ridicule other posters views.

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

Of course you have no obligation to me but I can question a claim that you make especially when you don't substantiate it and when it's entirely meant to ridicule other posters views.

Heaven forbid someone call out the ridiculous nature of people spitting the dummy out. Can’t have that.

I’ve given you a time frame of when there was a decent Aboyne of posts calling our manager things like “duffer” and “fraud”. Posters are allowed to call him that but I can’t say they’re delusional without you jumping on me for it?

Where’s the same passion for online justice when they’re saying that shite?

 

[Hoof the ball]

I'm going to go on record and say that, unlike the vast majority of this place, I actually like the concept of a left-footed wing-back on the right.

My personal belief is that football fans, in general, simply aren't open to innovation and are comfortable relying on tradition when unfamiliar approaches demand adaptation. For eg. For the longest time in football, and especially in english football, left-footed wingers always played on the left, and right-footed wingers always played on the right. This is the way it was, until teams started playing right-footed wingers on the left, and viceversa. In much the same manner, it was criticised and roundly frowned upon as not the default thing to do. But history now tells us that this adaptation allowed teams greater creative variety and control in the buildup.

How is this not the same for inverted wing-backs? How is this criticism not the same old argument used against inverted wingers? How are inverted wing-backs not beneficial in the same way that inverted wingers are?

Look, when Amad receives the ball at RWB, his left foot permits him to naturally come inside and utilise 95% of the rest of the field, spot runs and make passes with his best foot, thus increasing the probability of any pass being successful. In contrast, if you play a right-footer at right wing-back he's going to have tunnel vision and try to attack a smaller space of the field, and on the chance that he does come inside, he has to use his weaker left foot in 95% of the field. Surely this is more inefficient!

Amorim is right about how it changes the buildup phase. Think we're not seeing the forest for the trees because we're stuck and set on the idea that we must run round the outside and cross it in. Amorim sees the build happening through the middle, through the 10's in half spaces. And the larger point is that Amad, on the right, comes inside on his left and can play the crossfield pass to Garnacho whilst using his best left foot. How is this not optimal?

 

[Acquire Me]

Now you are just ignoring what is said. Judging/forming an opinion and taking a decision are two separate things. I can judge the first three months of Amorim and not take any hasty decisions, I can judge last night game and not take any decisions, there is nothing that prevent it and I would argue that constantly evaluating, compiling information is more productive. Take accounting as an example, is it better to do your accounting every weeks, every semesters or yearly?

That was my point also. No problem if you evaluate from day to day. I don’t find it either helpful or productive at this stage, but that’s my opinion. My stance is that he needs to get a fair chance and I believe he will get that from Ineos. Pre season, summer window and a brand new season.

Accounting is not productive and you let a third party do that for you.

 

[Swedish_Plumber]

Expecting what, exactly? Beating Palace at home? Winning away at Wolves—who, by the way, also had a new manager at the time? Feck me, that should be a given! Has it happened consistently over the past couple of years? No, but wasnt that whole point of moving on from Ten Hag and Ole?

People will say, give Amorim time, and I completely agree. But if we can’t beat teams like Palace at home and the argument is that we need a better squad to do so, then that suggests Amorim isnt maximising what he has—which is exactly what he was supposed to be good at.

The narrative has shifted to our squad isn’t good enough, but let’s actually break down our starting lineup:

Onana – Mistake-prone? Sure. But before joining us, he was one of the best keepers in Europe, coming from a Champions League finalist.

Mazraoui – Arguably our most consistent player this season, arriving from Bayern, a club of the highest calibre.

De Ligt – A defender with serious pedigree. He’s been playing at the top level since he was 19.

Martinez – Our best player in his first season. He hasn’t quite hit those heights this year, but he’s still a top-class defender.

Amad – Our standout player this season, full of potential and delivering when given the chance.

Ugarte – Statistically one of the best ball-winners in Europe and an ex-Amorim player.

Bruno – Our talisman. Probably our best signing since Sir Alex retired.

Dalot – Maybe not a natural left wing-back, but the club addressed that by signing Dorgu. Let’s be clear: Dalot is a regular in a highly talented Portuguese squad—he’s far from average.

Garnacho – Arguably our most exciting player. The level of interest in him during the January window spoke volumes.

Højlund – A player I expected Amorim to improve, yet he arguably looks worse. Will he become world-class? Maybe not. But could we be getting more out of him? Absolutely. He’s still a regular international starter for a strong Danish side.

Beyond that, we have Mainoo, Eriksen, Zirkzee, and Mount—all internationals, all highly rated before joining United.

So let’s not be fooled by media narratives or by what Amorim himself has said about the squad. At the very least, we should be beating the teams I mentioned. And no, it shouldn’t take a whole new squad for him to start doing that.

Look I’m glad we agree that we should give him time. And I’ve also said that he’s not immune to criticism.

My issue is with posters who think he shouldn’t be given time because of your exact first point there. We haven’t shown that we’re capable of beating the teams we feel like we should be easing aside for way longer that ten hag and Ole.

And we need to try something different to sacking mangers and replacing them or else it’s likely to continue.

 

[NotoriousISSY]

Yeah the knives are out, and he doesn’t appear to be helping himself with that Dalot/Dorgu nonsense.

I want to back him and I want to buy into whatever it is he’s trying to do but he seems to be making it purposefully difficult now.

Either he’s just a really awkward guy who is doing something we all can’t really see and one day we’ll understand, or on the other end of the spectrum he knows he’s got no chance and he’s trying to get himself that big summer payout.

 

[JPRouve]

Heaven forbid someone call out the ridiculous nature of people spitting the dummy out. Can’t have that.

I’ve given you a time frame of when there was a decent Aboyne of posts calling our manager things like “duffer” and “fraud”. Posters are allowed to call him that but I can’t say they’re delusional without you jumping on me for it?

Where’s the same passion for online justice when they’re saying that shite?

Did these posters demand something unreasonable, that's what you said in response to my post. It wasn't about people calling him names which is of course silly.

Why are we conflating an expectation that a manager should make a negligible position change in the league table with fans continued bloodthirsty strategy of chopping and changing for the next “hip”manager who will definitely get us back where we need to be within 6 months? That’s what I’m meaning with the term delusion.

So again who fits what you described here, keeping in mind that we haven't made any negligeable progress. So people who are unhappy today aren't unhappy because we haven't made enough progress but because we have marginally regressed.

 

[The Mitcher]

This is not a normal workplace. He needs to be a leader. Sir Alex was an "employee" too, but he didn't need coddling. Nor does Pep. Or Jose or any other top manager.

I am sure he is getting the support from the people in-charge. Not many managers would survive 5 losses out of 7 home games; three of which the team didn't even score. Also, it's not they were all cream of the crop. It was mostly mid to bottom table clubs.

I find it funny that caf users are advocating an arm around Amorrim but do not advocate that for the players.

 

[CloneMC16]

I'm going to go on record and say that, unlike the vast majority of this place, I actually like the concept of a left-footed wing-back on the right.

My personal belief is that football fans, in general, simply aren't open to innovation and are comfortable relying on tradition when unfamiliar approaches demand adaptation. For eg. For the longest time in football, and especially in english football, left-footed wingers always played on the left, and right-footed wingers always played on the right. This is the way it was, until teams started playing right-footed wingers on the left, and viceversa. In much the same manner, it was criticised and roundly frowned upon as not the default thing to do. But history now tells us that this adaptation allowed teams greater creative variety and control in the buildup.

How is this not the same for inverted wing-backs? How is this criticism not the same old argument used against inverted wingers? How are inverted wing-backs not beneficial in the same way that inverted wingers are?

Look, when Amad receives the ball at RWB, his left foot permits him to naturally come inside and utilise 95% of the rest of the field, spot runs and make passes with his best foot, thus increasing the probability of any pass being successful. In contrast, if you play a right-footer at right wing-back he's going to have tunnel vision and try to attack a smaller space of the field, and on the chance that he does come inside, he has to use his weaker left foot in 95% of the field. Surely this is more inefficient!

Amorim is right about how it changes the buildup phase. Think we're not seeing the forest for the trees because we're stuck and set on the idea that we must run round the outside and cross it in. Amorim sees the build happening through the middle, through the 10's in half spaces. And the larger point is that Amad, on the right, comes inside on his left and can play the crossfield pass to Garnacho whilst using his best left foot. How is this not optimal?

Playing a player with the skillset of Amad at RWB makes more sense. He's quick, skillful, and can dribble players on the inside or outside. It doesn't work with Dalot on the other side. He can't play the same way and looks awful there almost every game. He's had one good game there this season and that was surprisingly against Liverpool. He decided to keep running on the outside of TAA and got a lot of joy out of him.

If both wingbacks want to cut inside and both our #10's also want to cut inside, we have zero width. The game changed when Garnacho came on and provided width. I don't understand how this system works if we're going to play an entire team that wants to cut inside.

 

[Hoof the ball]

Playing a player with the skillset of Amad at RWB makes more sense. He's quick, skillful, and can dribble players on the inside or outside. It doesn't work with Dalot on the other side. He can't play the same way and looks awful there almost every game. He's had one good game there this season and that was surprisingly against Liverpool. He decided to keep running on the outside of TAA and got a lot of joy out of him.

If both wingbacks want to cut inside and both our #10's also want to cut inside, we have zero width. The game changed when Garnacho came on and provided width. I don't understand how this system works if we're going to play an entire team that wants to cut inside.

Right, which is why it's fine to have one inverted wing-back and a natural wing-back on the other side, because you're shifting the play to the inverted side to play a switched ball to the opposite side. To be fair to Dalot, his inverted-ness was rectified by Garnacho holding their wide position and Dalot shifting into the 10, which dealt with your concern about the 10 and the wing-both being narrow. What really we need, is what you said. We can't have Dalot on that left side.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Some fans are just out of touch of reality, they'd also be calling the sack for the next manager who comes in and we don't play well for another few months

I don't know if it's just a caf thing where if we don't play well or don't get results, they skip the criticizing phase and just go all out on the sacking phase, it's truly pathetic. Literally 0 to 100 and no in between giving any patience or time

What I'm seeing more of in this thread is actually posters in the "criticizing phase" as you call it being attacked for their opinions as if they were in the "sacking phase".