Who's writing off the season other than some of the fans? It's not Amorim, the club, or the players as far as I can tell.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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Oh yes, make it about me, just like every problem is about Amorim.
Beautiful *chef kiss*
I'm simply calling out the state of this thread and the complete unwillingness of many posters to stop doom and glooming day after day.
If you read the last 50 pages, you'll rarely find a meaningful discussion about what the shortcomings in our play are and how Amorim can adress them.
It's 80% negative noise, complaining and doubt.
And I'm calling it out, deal with it.
Can't wait to celebrate a good win in two days, and watch this thread NOT grow.
Oh OK, frankly who cares? Fans are and will always be fickle. I thought there'd been a leak from the club or something.
Is there anyone that made every problems about Amorim? I have read that trope several times today but don't really see where it comes from.
Amorim is so great, what an awesome coach, it's so great, they just spent 25m for a young unproven WB that's apparently so crucial for his system, it will be just like ETH over again spending money for his signings, he has this apparent Championship quality squad barely above relegation since he's come in, his genius knows no bounds!
What is this football, how awesome must he be to trash Southampton 3-1 after being dominated for large parts of the game, he must be the greatest ever!!
I need to write at least 5 posts a day to explain how great Amorim is, I have to be heard!
And probably he stopped the Old trafford roof from leaking, the messaih!!
The opposite side of your terrible post. Is it funny? Is this how you think conversations happen? You can have a normal discussion while disagreeing with people without trying to mock them for having a different opinion to yours.
I find it often very typical to have the stance to want improvements in lift, but not willing to wait or pay for it.
You know what it probably isn't no, but it's a fecking depressing timeline.
One that has been made longer than necessary by the club fecking about and wasting time on Ten Hag when he should have been sacked over a year ago.
The shortcomings are that our players are really poor and they are ill suited to play 3421. That is why Amorim is showing so little progress after 3 months. We lack technical and physical ability. Amorim has promised to try the same concept for forever, 'I will not change'. Our press is bad, defenders too slow to play a high line, and our attackers are championship level. There is no magical tactical formula to make this team a top 5 team.
Thankfully that madness will stop with Dorgu in
So many absolute babies in here with no patience. It's really quite remarkable.
Why are we putting so much pressure on an unproven 20 year old LB with only 53 senior appearances in his career?
What's the pressure? He just has to add berrer balance than an atrocious existing combination we currently have.
I know there are limited attacking options but it's strange Amorim plays 5 defenders as often as he does when there's such a marked difference in our success as a team when we go a bit more attacking in the wing back areas. Hopefully the Dorgu signing will lift us a little bit in this respect.
There was a lot of clamour for us to sign a striker in the window, and understandably so, but I actually think a number 10 would've been more important for team balance and flexibility in how we used Amad in this system. It's immaterial now but it's surprising more effort wasn't made to do something there.
I think having a physical left back with an actual left foot would help the balance of the team almost automatically, especially given just how bad Dalot has been.
Put Amad back in WB. He is still very good even playing WB. Dorgu and Amad WBs should be the way forward.
This also allow Bruno and Garnacho to play the 10s roles.
That gaping hole in the middle of the field happened right from the first match of preseason up until those final four games of the season when he finally changed his tactics (barring an odd game here or there against a top team that he set up much more defensively). The injuries had nothing to do with us effectively playing one player by himself in the middle of the park, throwing an extra person forward. That was 100% a deliberate tactic (something that he changed this season when he started playing with a second CM again instead of a second #10). You could argue that the defensive line being so deep was due to injuries, but even that would be only somewhat true. They were still sitting deep during times we had barely any injuries, and even in ETH's first season we had the 14th deepest defensive line in the league.
People point to Maguire and say he forces us to sit deep, but in reality he happily played in the 4th and 6th highest defensive lines in the league in Ole's two full seasons (indeed the best season of Maguire's career came when we had the 4th highest). We also saw other teams have to put out a mismatched group of fairly slow defenders continue to play quite a high line.
Your last line is true to some extent. But I'd say there's a lot more potential for improvement in a system that has control over a system that is all about transitions, even if the early days are similar. It doesn't mean that that improvement will definitely come, but there's reason to be hopeful.
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People are deluded. As good as Dorgu is, we dont have a right wing back, no CM partnership, bad AMC's and no striker along with a below strength DC three.
Its going to be a very long and shitty season.