Meh. Never got the hype
Ross Barkley | Stays at Everton
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Because he was slightly over rated when he came onto the scene it would appear he's now criminally under rated.
Barkley is a very good player, I don't know if he would take us to the level we need to be at, but worse than Lingard? Come on, please.
The asking price for him would probably be way too big, and I'd argue we need a really creative force and a deadly goal scorer as attackers in the summer. If we don't go for Barkley I'm sure he'll be a great signing for another big club.
Barkley is a very good player, I don't know if he would take us to the level we need to be at, but worse than Lingard? Come on, please.
The asking price for him would probably be way too big, and I'd argue we need a really creative force and a deadly goal scorer as attackers in the summer. If we don't go for Barkley I'm sure he'll be a great signing for another big club.
He has been very good this season and has stepped it up a level - still perhaps not at the level which his hype would have suggested but he is a very decent player who still has the potential to become an excellent one.
Need midfield cover, as Fellaini and Carrick could go which leaves Pogba and Herrera our only 2 1st team central midfielders
I think it was Leon Osman recently who said Barkley hasnt progressed since he was 16. He had raw potential and never cracked on. There isnt much difference seeing him now than there was in 2013.
You improve your squad by buying better starters and relegating the previous starter to the bench. You can also buy young talents that show potential that you think can develop to become starters in the near future. That is how you have a squad that is closer to what Madrid possesses. But you definitely dont go out to buy a player that you know from the onset will never be a starter material.
I'd rather slide bare-bollocked down the Eiffel Tower.
We would have the same issue of what role to play him in as we have with Pogba except he is nowhere near as good.
Not sure on this one. I was one that disagreed with a lot of posters on here who proclaimed him to be a top player a couple of years ago when he had a purple patch. I think he has the makings of a player and is quite athletic for a big guy, so there is something there to be worked with. It'll take a lot of improvement on his part to be able to play consistently at the level we want to get back to though. For the right price I'd give him a chance, i think he'll always have a decent resale value even at his current level. Anything above £25-30 million though and he's not worth it.
Apart from Lingard being Lingard (irrational hate of a United player), what has Barkley done to outshine Lingard at the top level?
Based on watching football, studying statistics, influence on games - Lingard has been more consistent and at a higher level.
Where would he move to if he left? Liverpool, no chance. City, only has David Silva and de Bruyne to contend with. Chelsea, don't play a system to accommodate him. Arsenal, started to play a system that wouldn't fit him. United, heavily linked with Griezmann who's a much better footballer. Spurs, they have Alli but could swap and change with CL next season.
He could just be posturing but may end up with egg on his face in this instance.
He could just be posturing but may end up with egg on his face in this instance.
Surely you give Andreas Pereira a season to show what he can do before you buy Barkley ?
At the moment Barkley is neither a promising young talent that could be paid accordingly, or a potential starter. Barkley is a regular for Everton. At one of the top 6 he'd be lucky to make 18 PL starts in a season.
At the moment Barkley is neither a promising young talent that could be paid accordingly, or a potential starter. Barkley is a regular for Everton. At one of the top 6 he'd be lucky to make 18 PL starts in a season.
Chelsea might buy him and loan him out ☺
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He only really thrives when he's in a free role and he's nowhere near good enough to get that here. Everton is his level.
Rather we give Andreas Pereira game time.
One of my favourite players. Got so much potential. Would definitely have him at United.
This.
The "he's british" shit needs to go away. We need good players, if they so happen to be british that's just a bonus.
Lingard is not a very good footballer. Based on watching football Barkley is clearly a superior talent. I don't hate Lingard, I'm not sure why you think I do? I just think he's a bit rubbish, and I think if he wasn't a 'local lad' he'd be nowhere near this United side.
He was a better player a few years back. He has gone backwards for whatever reason. The fact Everton are not even fighting to retain his services is telling.
Barkley is just as inconsistent as Lingard, ones a scouser, ones a manc.
Let me guess ... they need 60 million for him?
Pass.
Pass.
One of the most overhyped players around.
Looks like a bulkier, slower, less to offer version of the Rooney of the last few years.
I'm not talking this year, that would be too harsh
Looks like a bulkier, slower, less to offer version of the Rooney of the last few years.
I'm not talking this year, that would be too harsh
Overrated
He's not better than Mata or Miki, nevermind if we're getting Griezmann.
Reminds me of the Delph transfer to City. City needed a British player or two and Delph won the lottery ticket, while we don't have that need to fill in a homegrown quota. Now, both Delph & Barkley have talent, but they probably won't fully tap into their potential unless they get regular playing time. Neither would get it at City or United, but they are nice options to have and in a pinch can start semi-regularly. Barkley probably edges Delph currently, but I'm not sure he's worth the price Everton will ask for, unless of course it's in part exchange for Rooney.
Not sure how Everton playing hardball here and setting deadlines is going to make Barkley actually want to stay, seems an odd approach. Of course Koeman being an utter twat might have something to do with it.
Why is the choice accept the contract or they sell him? Surely wouldn't it be they will keep him and run down his contract, especially if they don't need money as they claim.
There is also the possibility that they have washed their hands of Barkley behind the scenes and this is being done so there is no backlash towards the club when he is sold especially considering that if Lukaku goes as well.
Why is the choice accept the contract or they sell him? Surely wouldn't it be they will keep him and run down his contract, especially if they don't need money as they claim.
There is also the possibility that they have washed their hands of Barkley behind the scenes and this is being done so there is no backlash towards the club when he is sold especially considering that if Lukaku goes as well.
Another very talented young English player that could have become world class, just like Wilshire. He is still a good player but he is hardly a kid now. Cant see any truth in this, also hope ther eis no truth in Lukaku rumours to us either, on his day he is unplayable, not regular enough for me, and when he isnt at his best he is average at best.
He is a very good player, is prepared to fight hard for the ball. I think he would be a good partner for Pogba with a defensive midfielder sitting behind them both.
He can score, which is a bonus for us.
He can score, which is a bonus for us.
Id take him at United.
I would too but I don't quite know where we'd fit him in with Pogba/Herrera/DM.
Swap deal for Rooney
Would rather James over him, and I don't particularly want James.
No thanks
No you shouldn't be slaughtered.
Lingard is a fantastic squad player and as you say the people here might disagree with his first-team place but if you can;t see that we need players like him to win PL titles then you should erase all memories of previous title wins we've had. i hope he stays, improves and helps us to win seasons, not one-off games.
Barkley over the course of this season might have had a few better games, but I wouldn't say over the whole season he has significantly been better.
Lingard is smarter, and either Barkley learns now or he can sit on Chelsea's bench.
I think Pochettino could help him, though I think he'll sign with Everton.
Where else could he go? Arsenal?
Never understood people raving about him. Another over hyped player when he was young who hasn't lived up to expectations.
Reminds me of Scholes when he tackles
How tall is he? Wiki says 188cm but he doesn't look that tall at all.
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