How has he helped us these past couple of years?
Rooney - Wants to stay next season
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He has been very frustrating over the past few years, especially when he comes back from injury and plays like a 3 legged donkey.
He clearly has a problem with his underlying fitness. The contrast with the older, Cristiano Ronaldo, is stark. As physical specimens, they have been on opposite trajectories since 2004.
Also, he has lost that real competitive streak, that win-at-all-costs mentality which again, seems to have grown in Ronaldo as his career has gone on.
I see no problem in giving him a couple of months to prove himself again but he really does need to have gone through a sea change in attitude and application for it ever to work.
He clearly has a problem with his underlying fitness. The contrast with the older, Cristiano Ronaldo, is stark. As physical specimens, they have been on opposite trajectories since 2004.
Also, he has lost that real competitive streak, that win-at-all-costs mentality which again, seems to have grown in Ronaldo as his career has gone on.
I see no problem in giving him a couple of months to prove himself again but he really does need to have gone through a sea change in attitude and application for it ever to work.
the whole thing looks photoshopped.
We might as well give him two years since we've been waiting so long to prove himself.
The truth is that he's done at this level and the quicker everyone accepts that the better for everyone.
We need to replace him with a player that can contribute at a high level and give his minutes to Pereira.
He is way past it and people who think he can contribute next season are deluded. If he had some dignity, he would leave and play where he could still stand out. I hope Jose gets his message across that he wont play a big role
He can join jones and carrick on the passenger seat
I am pretty sure that he knows that and he doesn't really care. He will get his year of salary and then he'll feck off to China/US as a free agent
Schweinstiger him
Hasn't he already been ? I think he just wants to last good paycheck
thought the same
Yeah me too, I think we're handling this pretty well from our side, if this is how he wants to play it - another season like last, but only more so - that's his call. The club gains nothing paying him to play for someone else.
Like a new signing?
Absolutely won't happen though. Fitness is just one (major) aspect of it. He's lost the tools that made him great and he doesn't really have the trust of his manager and I'd say his teammates know at this stage he's going to hold them back too. Also they must be looking around wondering why he earned 10 million more than most of them last year.
I'd say this back to training early etc is for interested clubs to see he's 'raring to go' and still has the fire or failing that to show the fans of this club he's still doing his best so if he stays they won't turn on his as quickly as they could. He couldn't really get any worse than last season anyway as a supposed match winner and top earner at a club like this. The only way is up surely?!?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo.../Wayne-Rooney-Manchester-United-contract.html
If you just google "rooney man united contract" it brings up dozens of articles, many of which will tell you what you want to know.
He can stay and pick up his last pay cheque but it doesn't mean Jose has to play him, though like I said he'll be useful for cup games. It's not going to cost us any more whether he stays or goes as he'll have to be paid up either way. As I said, he's not made any demands to play, tried to undermine the manager or disrupted team harmony so I don't see what the problem is. He's being true to his word by not playing for another Premier League club apart from Everton, so again fair play to him for that. I'm sure if he had decent options, he'd consider them.
Gotcha.
He couldn't say anything else he had to say that.
If anything he helped his departure, if he said he wanted to go the fee for him would be much lower.
If anything he helped his departure, if he said he wanted to go the fee for him would be much lower.
He is surely still good enough for MLS? Not that Ive ever watched an MLS game, but I hear the standard is pretty poor, wasnt Gerrard complaining about it a few months ago? If the standard is so poor that Gerrard feels its beneath him - at his current level - I cant see how Rooney could fail to thrive. I mean let's not exaggerate, he has fallen a long way from where he was but its not like he has no ability at all, he just cant cut it in the very competitive PL.
And he is still very recognisable and presumably marketable.
Id honestly be stunned if he hasnt had offers from MLS. Maybe not offers to match his wages though.
I agree.
However You're making an assumption, ie that Rooney is ready to settle for some sort of paycut/reduction of the money which is owed to him. I don't think its the case. I believe that he had received some job offers but all those clubs had asked that he takes a big pay cut. Under such circumstances he might either ask United to pay the rest of his contract in full or else he'll remain at United.
This option for another year on his contract, does anyone know who has the right to trigger it? Does it have to be agreed by both parties or does one side own it?
When he signed contract, ManUtd confirmed he signed till 2019.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...ey-signs-new-deal-with-manchester-united.aspx
So Simon Stone is wrong.
PA last night, wrote that we had the option not Rooney.
Stone confirmed it also.
The statement from the club reads differently.
I am desperate for it to be the case.
It's possible there was a mistake. Both press association and Stone yesterday confirmed it was a 4 + 1 contract.
Mistake by press or ManUtd.com? Because he signed 5 and half year deal which was announced by the club and also they clearly mentioned he extended his contract by four years to 2019.
I think I'll believe the club's official release over them to be honest.
My God if he spends the next two years hanging around picking up his salary and not playing itll be an absolute farce. Of course this will always be remembered as Moyes' doing but in truth Woodward must also take a lot of the blame for this, he must feel like an idiot of the highest order.
This. Why is everyone such a pussy at the club? Jose needs to seriously talk to him. You won´t play in the league, you won´t play in the Championsleague, you won´t play in important cup games. I will slowly drown you down the sink from August on and in May 2018 you will be forgotten.
I think that Jose learned his lesson at Chelsea not to piss off senior players too much.
Why are people worried, this is exactly what Jose did last season and with no blow back. Clearly Rooney has limited options to leave and never struck me as a player who would settle well in a foreign country. He's entitled to run down his contract and will be used even less than his few cameo appearances from last season.
Not worried at all it just makes you think why he doesn't care. Jose handled him brilliantly tbf, he played him first and then slowly put him on the bench
He's burned out, can only imagine his options are China or MLS. Why uproot a settled family for 1 or 2 seasons tops. Run down your contract and hope for a cushy ambassador role or something like that to keep you in pocket money. i don't see him being a pundit or manager.
Maybe a fitness coach...
Generally agree with that. However, he Looks a bit like a fool as he talked about there being a lot of interest and offers just some weeks ago.
If there were any serious offers and he had the Intention of playing some more years on an acceptable level he would leave.
That being said he is one of my alltime favorite Players. A fecking machine during his golden years.
What absolute bollocks. Though i suspect you know that.
He wont come back as a strong player, that's clear. However, he should still be ambitious to play regular football and it's not that he wouldn't earn well in China or the US
I wonder if it'll go down as an income or a loss if we decide to write him off in our budgets.
IMHO he wont make it in mls. He has no good technique to offer.
I dont watch mls, but my bet is that they're very fit and physical there and it'll cause problem for rooney as he has neither pace nor skill anymore
If we do have to keep him just whore him out , get his face on Asian bean cans etc etc.
Unless there is a limit to that kind of "work"?
Unless there is a limit to that kind of "work"?
I cannot believe there are still some people who think all he needs is a good pre season and he can be a good option. Have they not been watching him play in the last 2 or 3 years?
He's completely finished as a top level player.
And even if he did actually get in shape and was of the required fitness for the start of the season, which would be rare, he'd just get lazy as the season went on and go back to his old ways.
We should pay up the rest of his contract and get rid.
He's completely finished as a top level player.
And even if he did actually get in shape and was of the required fitness for the start of the season, which would be rare, he'd just get lazy as the season went on and go back to his old ways.
We should pay up the rest of his contract and get rid.
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