Rooney is finished

Is Rooney done at the required level?


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I just don't think it sends the right sort of message by playing him tonight and then dropping him for Leicester. He needs to be out of the squad for both, or at best, on the bench.

What if he scores one or two tap ins tonight for example? The media frenzy would be flipped on its head.
 
I just don't think it sends the right sort of message by playing him tonight and then dropping him for Leicester. He needs to be out of the squad for both, or at best, on the bench.

What if he scores one or two tap ins for tonight for example? The media frenzy would be flipped on its head.
Exactly, should be out the team for a sustained period of time and not just 1 or 2 games.
 
He should absolutely not start tonight. We should ideally play 7-8 players tonight who will start the game on saturday and give a break to Shaw, Valencia and Fellaini. Maybe get Rooney on as a sub post the 60 min mark and see if he improves the game a bit and then bring him on as a sub on saturday as well.
 
I think the hardest thing nowadays is to try and support someone that does give a feck about anything he is doing, its like having Balotelli without the added charm of Fireworks
 
Look imo Rooney is SO bad now that even tonight he will be shit as he is literally physically shot.

He can't control a ball and he can't shoot/pass why would that improve just because the quality of the opposition is lower.
 
Look imo Rooney is SO bad now that even tonight he will be shit as he is literally physically shot.

He can't control a ball and he can't shoot/pass why would that improve just because the quality of the opposition is lower.

I really hope he plays tonight. I have a feeling it's really going to prove that he is barely at League 1 level these days.
 
Playing him straight after that stinker? Feck that.
Needs to be benched today and the foreseeable future.
 
The counter argument is that his confidence is shot and scoring a couple of goals against Northampton could get him firing in the Premier League again.

That's just devil's advocate tho, he should definitely be dropped IMO.
 
Look imo Rooney is SO bad now that even tonight he will be shit as he is literally physically shot.

He can't control a ball and he can't shoot/pass why would that improve just because the quality of the opposition is lower.
It's like Falcao, play him against lower league opposition and he will struggle even more. He's lost the physical edge he used to have over lower league players, and the giant centre backs are going to be all over him.
 
I really hope he plays tonight. I have a feeling it's really going to prove that he is barely at League 1 level these days.

I am all for playing him tonight and then regardless of his performance dropping him for Leicester just to be a cnut...

But I genuinely think he will be crap tonight too.

@Adam-Utd I agree, he will be embarrased tonight by Northampton and that gives Mou more reason to drop him
 
The counter argument is that his confidence is shot and scoring a couple of goals against Northampton could get him firing in the Premier League again.

That's just devil's advocate tho, he should definitely be dropped IMO.
Yeah but he's so poor who says he will score tonight? His form just does not justify him starting games, no matter against who
 
It's like Falcao, play him against lower league opposition and he will struggle even more. He's lost the physical edge he used to have over lower league players, and the giant centre backs are going to be all over him.

Lower league centre halfs know exactly how to play against his type. Stick on his back and close him down fast. He hasn't got the pace, touch or ability to make space for himself anymore. He'll be passing backwards all night.
 
Easiest thing would be starting Rashford and Mata and hope one of them has a good game so it's easier to point to their form and Rooney's lack of for Leicester.
 
I'd rather see Martial/Rashford play as a CF, get a few of goals if possible than to try to boost Rooney's confidence.
 
As much as Rooney has been the poster boy for all our problems on the pitch, I feel he's causing more problems off the pitch. If the recent articles coming out are to be believed and Rooney is the 'source' then he's an absolute cancer and needs to be released ASAP. I don't think we can afford to wait until January to sell him.

I'm starting to believe that Rooney being at the club is our biggest problem, not just his performance's when he plays.
 
As much as Rooney has been the poster boy for all our problems on the pitch, I feel he's causing more problems off the pitch. If the recent articles coming out are to be believed and Rooney is the 'source' then he's an absolute cancer and needs to be released ASAP. I don't think we can afford to wait until January to sell him.

I'm starting to believe that Rooney being at the club is our biggest problem, not just his performance's when he plays.

Yep I think this too and it is worrying.
 
As much as Rooney has been the poster boy for all our problems on the pitch, I feel he's causing more problems off the pitch. If the recent articles coming out are to be believed and Rooney is the 'source' then he's an absolute cancer and needs to be released ASAP. I don't think we can afford to wait until January to sell him.

I'm starting to believe that Rooney being at the club is our biggest problem, not just his performance's when he plays.

I wouldn't go that over dramatic. For both club and country, Rooney needs to be dropped for poor performances. It's just not fair, you got poor Herrera who's not getting more games than he actually deserves as he puts out decent performances when he does come on, whereas you got Rooney who plays average or below average football but still get picked because he's captain... It's time for him to be dropped, get out of his comfort zone and start working for a place in the team like everyone else. Then we will start to see a change in the squad and Rooney will either rise to it and actually put more work in the training ground, or slowly slip out of pecking order and then move on.
 
Mourinho has no better chance to drop Rooney as he does now. The media are even criticising him so its going to make the job of dropping hhm that much easier.
 
So close to that elusive record. Ironically if we brought Bobby Charlton back into the team he'd be more likely to score.

Be mad if he never did it. I'm starting to secretly hope he breaks the record in the next couple of weeks (hopefully by finally scoring one of those signature chips he's almost never converted) then runs off the pitch, immediately hands in his resignation and Mourinho can get on with building a succesful team without all this Rooney drama. A guy can dream, right?
 
I wouldn't go that over dramatic. For both club and country, Rooney needs to be dropped for poor performances. It's just not fair, you got poor Herrera who's not getting more games than he actually deserves as he puts out decent performances when he does come on, whereas you got Rooney who plays average or below average football but still get picked because he's captain... It's time for him to be dropped, get out of his comfort zone and start working for a place in the team like everyone else. Then we will start to see a change in the squad and Rooney will either rise to it and actually put more work in the training ground, or slowly slip out of pecking order and then move on.
I hear what you're saying but there is a reason Fergie tried to boot Rooney out of United 3 years ago. Now he's walking around the place like Billy big bollocks because he 'survived' SAF's regime. There's no way there isn't a selection of players at United who don't feel that Rooney is influential behind the scenes, especially seeing as he's the captain. Dropping Rooney could be one of the worst things Mourinho could do. Rooney will have sympathisers within the club and when negativity sets in with a core group of people who are influential, the manager is pretty much finished.

If Mourinho is going to drop Rooney then he needs to sell him or release him if any more murmurings come after it, otherwise we can write this season off now.
 
Dropping him for both would be a serious message.

Aye, although I was thinking more that it was a punishment to play in the League Cup only to be dropped for the next PL match :p
 
Be mad if he never did it. I'm starting to secretly hope he breaks the record in the next couple of weeks (hopefully by finally scoring one of those signature chips he's almost never converted) then runs off the pitch, immediately hands in his resignation and Mourinho can get on with building a succesful team without all this Rooney drama. A guy can dream, right?
Same here. :lol: I'm desperate for him to break the record asap.
 
I'm not, I don't want him to get that record, he should get the BFS treatment and never get the chance, feck him.
If breaking he record is what makes him go quietly, then it's more an worth it.
 
I'd rather he didn't break the record as I'd prefer Sir Bobby kept it but that's literally impossible, we'll get enough Cup games and relegation fodder that Rooney should limp over the line. He should have broken it a year ago though.
 
As much as Rooney has been the poster boy for all our problems on the pitch, I feel he's causing more problems off the pitch. If the recent articles coming out are to be believed and Rooney is the 'source' then he's an absolute cancer and needs to be released ASAP. I don't think we can afford to wait until January to sell him.

I'm starting to believe that Rooney being at the club is our biggest problem, not just his performance's when he plays.

I agree. Has the Keano episode all over him. Nothing alike in terms of personality and player. But Keano became de-stabilising whilst not performing.

I know its an awful thing to say / think, but when the city keeper "did" Rooney in the derby, the first thing I thought was - those could workout brilliantly.

Unfortunately, injury or suspension is the only thing that will keep him out.
 
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