Rooney Charged: Faces Two Match Ban for cursing | Appeal lost

Bryan_Munich said:
Not really.

However when nobody knows who sits on these disciplinary panels they're always going to leave themselves open to these conspiracy theories.
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True although when Rooney was suspended for three games a couple of years ago after being sent off in a friendly match in holland, Trevor Brooking was said to be one of the disciplinary board members.
 
And wasn't an Arsenal season ticket holder on the baord when they banned Evra (as we were in a title race with Arsenal)
 
dev1l said:
True although when Rooney was suspended for three games a couple of years ago after being sent off in a friendly match in holland, Trevor Brooking was said to be one of the disciplinary board members.
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What really pissed me off about that one was that he'd already served a one match ban in the relevant tournament too.
 
Blair said:
We need to accept it and move on. At least Rooney wont do it again.
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We don't really have a choice but move on, do we?

I just hope someone takes the initiative and moves on while taking notice of every piece of swearing shown on TV during football matches, and sends it to both the FA and the media to show their true colours, as they do nothing.
 
(If we're fortune to win the Premiership), it will make the winning that more sweeter.
 
A1Dan said:
Of all the no-mark busy-body twats to have their say so far...

Sir Clive Woodward criticises Man Utd's Wayne Rooney

Former England rugby coach Sir Clive Woodward has criticised Manchester United's Wayne Rooney after the striker's expletive-filled celebration.

Rooney swore at a TV camera during United's win at West Ham on Saturday and Woodward has also questioned United manager Sir Alex Ferguson's role.

"Part of the coach's job is to coach people to handle pressure moments," said Woodward.

"As a coach, you would need to ask 'Why would you as a player do that?'"

Woodward, who also described Rooney's action as "very uncool", added: "You would hope clubs would be big enough to ban the players themselves."

The Football Association is set to make public a verdict on Rooney on Thursday.

The England international has accepted a charge of using offensive language after he repeatedly swore down a television camera but has appealed against a two-match ban.

Rooney claims his punishment, which makes him unavailable for Saturday's league match against Fulham and the FA Cup semi-final against Manchester City on 16 April, is "clearly excessive".

Rooney's United team-mate Rio Ferdinand believes the media should stop "lynching" the England striker.
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"We should follow him as a footballer rather than keep lynching him for a lot of the stuff that goes on," said Ferdinand.

"I wouldn't say he is innocent in a lot of the stuff that has happened but sometimes because of the player he is and who he is the reaction can be over the top.

"Wayne Rooney swearing on TV, as much as I don't condone it, is not front page news. There are bigger things going on in the world.

"There are things happening in Libya and Ivory Coast and we are talking about Wayne Rooney on the front page of newspapers because he swore at a camera."

But Woodward, now director of sport at the British Olympic Association, believes Rooney should face action for setting the wrong example to young fans who watched the match live on television.

"Rooney's behaviour has been very uncool - to say the least," he said.

"Children will see it and say 'if he can do it I can do it too' and behave like that towards parents and teachers."

Woodward, who coached England to the Rugby World Cup in 2003, worked in fooball for a little over a year as technical support director at Southampton.

The 55-year-old questioned whether Rooney's on-pitch achievements justified his billing as a star of world sport.

"Is Wayne Rooney an iconic figure? In my view, at the moment, no," he added.

"Iconic figures are people who really delivered at international level.

"Football at the top level is the World Cup - people like Pele and Maradona are the iconic figures of football.

"These people may have had chequered backgrounds but you remembered them."

Rooney's two World Cup campaigns have been largely miserable experiences.

In 2010, he used a pitchside camera to criticise England's fans who booed the team after their 0-0 draw against Algeria.

The team, under the leadership of Fabio Capello, were subsequently defeated 4-1 by Germany in the first knock-out round.

In the 2006 tournament, he was sent off as England lost on penalties in their quarter-final against Portugal.

Rooney is yet to score in eight games at the finals.

The controversy over his latest indiscretion has coincided with drinks manufacter Coca-Cola confirming that it would not renew his personal endorsement deal.

Rooney had worked with the company since 2007.

"Our contract with Wayne Rooney came to an end last year and we mutually agreed that we would not renew our relationship," read a statement.​

"very uncool"? Yeah, you'd know about that, Clive!:lol:
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hehe. This is the best thing in this thread.

What an arrogant snob. Go back to watching replays of the boat race Clive.
 
I liked what the PFA chief had to say about this

Gordon Taylor has called on the Football Association to make players aware if there is a change in approach to the use of 'industrial language'.

Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney is facing a two-match suspension from the FA following his foul-mouthed celebration after completing his hat-trick against West Ham at the weekend.

Rooney shouted an obscenity into a television camera after scoring a penalty at Upton Park and has been charged with using abusive, insulting and/or offensive language by the FA.

Professional Footballers' Association chief executive Taylor insists he does not condone Rooney's language and would not tolerate it if it was directed towards an official.



However, Taylor believes that players are not aware that punishment could be forthcoming if foul language has been used as a means to express celebration or frustration.
Acceptance

In a statement on the PFA website, Taylor said: "Whilst the use of foul and abusive language is not condoned, there is an acceptance by all parties within the game that 'industrial language' is commonly used.

"It becomes an issue when directed towards match officials.

"However, when used in a spontaneous way in celebration or frustration then it is not normally expected to merit a sanction.

"If sanctions are to be imposed in such circumstances then this has to be done in a balanced and consistent manner, and participants made aware of this fundamental change in approach."
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noodlehair said:
hehe. This is the best thing in this thread.

What an arrogant snob. Go back to watching replays of the boat race Clive.
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Is he seriously questioning Fergie's ability to handle players there? You can add "clueless" to your description of him there.
 
UnofficialDevil said:
I liked what the PFA chief had to say about this

Gordon Taylor has called on the Football Association to make players aware if there is a change in approach to the use of 'industrial language'.

Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney is facing a two-match suspension from the FA following his foul-mouthed celebration after completing his hat-trick against West Ham at the weekend.

Rooney shouted an obscenity into a television camera after scoring a penalty at Upton Park and has been charged with using abusive, insulting and/or offensive language by the FA.

Professional Footballers' Association chief executive Taylor insists he does not condone Rooney's language and would not tolerate it if it was directed towards an official.



However, Taylor believes that players are not aware that punishment could be forthcoming if foul language has been used as a means to express celebration or frustration.
Acceptance

In a statement on the PFA website, Taylor said: "Whilst the use of foul and abusive language is not condoned, there is an acceptance by all parties within the game that 'industrial language' is commonly used.

"It becomes an issue when directed towards match officials.

"However, when used in a spontaneous way in celebration or frustration then it is not normally expected to merit a sanction.

"If sanctions are to be imposed in such circumstances then this has to be done in a balanced and consistent manner, and participants made aware of this fundamental change in approach."
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The bit in bold is the crux of the issue, and these fundamental changes should be made between seasons and clearly outlined to players.

Problem is, that requires some level of sense, which we know we don't get from the FA.
 
There's just no reasoning with these people. They've decided to set a precedent with Rooney as the scapegoat. We will see if they have the balls to stick to their own rules.

Now we better go on to win the trophy despite the odds. That will show them.
 
UnofficialDevil said:
I liked what the PFA chief had to say about this
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This 'law' will simply be sucked into nothingness again now that Rooney's been punished, players will continue to swear loud and clear during football games, and they'll continue to get away with it just as before.
 
Well crap, I was sure there would be a 3rd game added on for frivolous appeal but, then again wonder what shorts has to say about it now.

Is there nothing the club can do to ensure now that FA has set this precedent that we send in video after video evidence of players swearing from here on out and see if they act upon it?

Fine and dandy that they've set the precedent but, I'll be more gutted if the club don't some how make them deal with the consequences and not just take it on the chin. Surely there must be something United do to ensure they now reap what the sowed.
 
Ludicrous, but sadly expected. They've opened up a huge can of worms, and I expect them to give up on this new ruling going forward once they realize how much work they'll actually have to start doing.
 
Another ridiculous decision made by a panel of people that we don't know behind closed doors without any representation from the club. Fantastic. I can't imagine anything possibly going on that would be untowards in such a situation.

The FA disciplinary system seriously needs to be challenged over this. With such blatant cherry picking of incidents, surely we'd have a case to take to CAS over it. The FA don't even try to uniformly enforce their rules. There is zero accountability for these people and zero oversight. It's insane.
 
Wayne Rooney would have been locked up if he had shown such "ridiculous aggression" on a night out as he did on the pitch, a senior police officer has said.

Superintendent Mark Payne, responsible for managing responses to crime and operations in Wolverhampton, said his officers would face more Rooneys in the city centre this weekend and "no doubt somebody will be injured in some meaningless fight".

The Manchester United and England striker must serve a two-match suspension for his four-letter outburst to TV cameras at West Ham on Saturday.

"If Rooney had behaved like that in Wolverhampton on Saturday night, I would have expected my officers to lock him up," Mr Payne said.

"People in positions of influence have an obligation to behave like human beings. It is not a lot to ask."

Writing on his blog on policing, Mr Payne went on: "I have seen a thousand Rooneys, and I am sure most police officers will have.

"The same aggressive stance, the bulging eyes, the foul-mouthed rant, fists clenched, surrounded by his mates, all cheering him on.

"I have seen this on Friday and Saturday nights, as young men (and more often young ladies) engage in a 'good night out'.

"I have seen people argue over almost every kind of nonsense you could imagine. 'He stole my place in the taxi queue', 'he looked at my girlfriend', 'he is from the wrong estate', 'I didn't like the look of him'."

The senior officer with the UK's second largest force added that while Rooney had "offered some form of apology", "what he won't be able to do is alter the impression that he has left in the eyes of the watching youngsters".

"It is OK to insult and abuse, it is OK to react with ridiculous aggression to perceived slights or provocation, it is excusable because it is the heat of the moment," he said.

"My officers will face more Rooneys over the weekend, no doubt somebody will be injured in some meaningless fight. An officer will have to go and tell a parent that their son or daughter is in hospital as a result."
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Bloody hell. I almost won't blame him if he wants to leave this country and play abroad. Talk about massive overreaction to one bloody celebration.
 
wr8_utd said:
Bloody hell. I almost won't blame him if he wants to leave this country and play abroad. Talk about massive overreaction to one bloody celebration.
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What a fecking farce (and a cnut). England has serious problems.
 
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