Rooney Charged: Faces Two Match Ban for cursing | Appeal lost

The worst part about the incidents involving both Sir Alex and Rooney is that, if history is any guide, very little will have changed in terms of discipline, which will further underscore the disingenuousness of the part that both the FA and media have played in it.

The media has had their pound of flesh and subsequently benefited from it financially, and the FA has been widely praised for finally taking on the giants of the game (as if they have never punished anyone at United before). Ironically, United will also benefit, both in terms of the publicity that we have received, which doesn't appear to have harmed us in the past, as well as the motivation that it will undoubtedly provide for a successful end to the season.

But is this really, as so many newspapers are suggesting, ' a watershed moment for the respect campaign'? I very much doubt it, as it was so transparently a reaction to external pressure rather than a genuine commitment by the FA to administer punishment consistently and fairly and to take their own responsibilities seriously for the first time in living memory.

And that is sad, in my opinion, because few football supporters who really care about the game could argue if there was a concerted effort to enforce the rules consistently, without reference to 'high profile' examples, and without influence from a media that doesn't cover all clubs equally.
 
Now the FA will have to ban 100's of players every year

Well seeing as we are now in April near the end and this is the first time a player has done that in that manner, I'd say that was unlikely, wouldn't you?

Claymore and rednev will be backing the Cop I'd bet.

Never wanted Rooney banned and said the swearing doesn't bother me, if anything its funny but that doesn't mean I can't see that he shouldn't be doing it. Its not just the words he used, its HOW he said them and that is what has cost him.

If he had looked at his teammates and said "fecking what" then he would not have been banned, even if the camera picked it up even clearer sound wise. It was a silly mistake and you don't need to behave like that to show 'passion'. Now he misses the City game, a game he'd love to play in when he could have been playing. Now seriously is the FA really to blame for that?

The only good to come out of this IMO is that it shows lots of people are starting to forgive Rooney for his contract antics, based on how they are now defending him to the hilt as they would other United players.
 
On the extended highlights of the Liverpool - West Brom match (which have mostly been taken down) after reina is called for tripping Odemwingie He goes mental on the assistant ref and turns to face the ref and in full of the camera goes "NO feckING WAY". Shame I cant find it now, most highlights just show him tripping odemwingie and then cuts to Brunt taking the penalty.

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fecking hell!

Its as if only Rooney has ever swore or he has started a virus or something,that too purposely.

There is this Ed Moses who is saying Rooney is uncool because he is a bad example for kids.

Paraents happy that Coke dropped Rooeny.

This is comedy.
 
That Reina incident clearly shows that this is not a blow for the RESPECT campaign when a player is using foul language towards a referee. RESPECT campaign is for the referees, Rooney didn't disrespect the official while Reina did but, the one that is banned is Rooney.

Wonder what the idiot Graham Poll and his friend had to say about that?
 
That Reina incident clearly shows that this is not a blow for the RESPECT campaign when a player is using foul language towards a referee. RESPECT campaign is for the referees, Rooney didn't disrespect the official while Reina did but, the one that is banned is Rooney.

Wonder what the idiot Graham Poll and his friend had to say about that?

It was also complaining about the award of an absolutely stonewall penalty, as if the ref had got it wrong.
 
That Reina incident clearly shows that this is not a blow for the RESPECT campaign when a player is using foul language towards a referee. RESPECT campaign is for the referees, Rooney didn't disrespect the official while Reina did but, the one that is banned is Rooney.

Wonder what the idiot Graham Poll and his friend had to say about that?

Another Spaniard(Cesc) could be seen saying "puta madre" after a missed chance against Blackburn this weekend. Guess he should be banned too...
 
The problem with the FA is that it is run by geriatrics in gay blazers who are about 50 years behind the times. hen Wayne is collecting his FA cup winners medal on our way to our second treble he should piss all over what ever fa cockbiscuit is doing the presentation and tell England to go feck themselves in his post match interview.
 
I think that comes within the 10 degrees from the camera?

Doesn't matter how close it is to the camera because he's directing it elsewhere. Abusing the ref is another debate. Apart from the the words used, that Reina incident is nothing like the Rooney one and you know it.

You can bet your house on the fact that no one else will ever get banned by the FA for swearing

They will if they look down the barrel of the camera and hurl abuse at it like Rooney did and IF they don't then its our time to moan, if and when someone does the same thing.
 
Doesn't matter how close it is to the camera because he's directing it elsewhere. Abusing the ref is another debate. Apart from the the words used, that Reina incident is nothing like the Rooney one and you know it.

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Just so that you know, Rooney's ban is for the "use of offensive language" and not for aiming it down a camera.
 
Just so that you know, Rooney's ban is for the "use of offensive language" and not for aiming it down a camera.


Yeah I know, we've been through this but if he didn't look down the camera and direct it at the viewers as such he wouldn't be banned IMO. That is where the media uproar has come from because its an unusual case (bar Drogba, which was another competition/FA).
 
Come to think of it, didn't SAF swear on TV when getting interviewed after a game? I think it was more 9pm time though where he responded to pressure of the job or something and said "that's bollocks" right in front of camera but in response to the reporter?

He was told off a little by the reporter with please watch your swearing this is a family show or usual rubbish but never got a ban for it. Again, it was a different scenario and manner to what Rooney did but obviously a lot more clearer than some of the examples people are giving, like the crowds chants or Reina lip readings etc.

Another way players have sent out messages to the viewers back home is wearing shirts underneath with messages like 100 goals or some other message. How many of you think they would get a ban if they put feck off on their tshirts and flashed it after a goal? I reckon they would, no matter what club they played for. Although obviously if one of our players did it the ban might be a game or two more due to media pressure. :D
 
Come to think of it, didn't SAF swear on TV when getting interviewed after a game? I think it was more 9pm time though where he responded to pressure of the job or something and said "that's bollocks" right in front of camera but in response to the reporter?

He was told off a little by the reporter with please watch your swearing this is a family show or usual rubbish but never got a ban for it. Again, it was a difference scenario and manner to what Rooney did but obviously a lot more clearer than some of the examples people are giving, like the crowds chants or Reina lip readings etc.

Another way players have sent out messages to the viewers back home is wearing shirts underneath with messages like 100 goals or some other message. How many of you think they would get a ban if they put feck off on their tshirts and flashed it after a goal? I reckon they would, no matter what club they played for. Although obviously if one of our players did it the ban might be a game or two more due to media pressure. :D
There have been other football figures swearing during interviews - Redknapp and a City player for example.
 
I think it is our duty now to make sure every incident does get media attention. We should do as much as we can, as fans, to raise these issues and ask why they're not being punished.

58:08 of last nights ITV coverage...Chelsea player heard screaming "fecking hell" when he lost the ball for a throw.
 
Wayne Rooney would have been locked up if he had shown such "ridiculous aggression" on a night out as he did on the pitch, a senior police officer has said.

Superintendent Mark Payne, responsible for managing responses to crime and operations in Wolverhampton, said his officers would face more Rooneys in the city centre this weekend and "no doubt somebody will be injured in some meaningless fight".

The Manchester United and England striker must serve a two-match suspension for his four-letter outburst to TV cameras at West Ham on Saturday.

"If Rooney had behaved like that in Wolverhampton on Saturday night, I would have expected my officers to lock him up," Mr Payne said.

"People in positions of influence have an obligation to behave like human beings. It is not a lot to ask."

Writing on his blog on policing, Mr Payne went on: "I have seen a thousand Rooneys, and I am sure most police officers will have.

"The same aggressive stance, the bulging eyes, the foul-mouthed rant, fists clenched, surrounded by his mates, all cheering him on.

"I have seen this on Friday and Saturday nights, as young men (and more often young ladies) engage in a 'good night out'.

"I have seen people argue over almost every kind of nonsense you could imagine. 'He stole my place in the taxi queue', 'he looked at my girlfriend', 'he is from the wrong estate', 'I didn't like the look of him'."

The senior officer with the UK's second largest force added that while Rooney had "offered some form of apology", "what he won't be able to do is alter the impression that he has left in the eyes of the watching youngsters".

"It is OK to insult and abuse, it is OK to react with ridiculous aggression to perceived slights or provocation, it is excusable because it is the heat of the moment," he said.

"My officers will face more Rooneys over the weekend, no doubt somebody will be injured in some meaningless fight. An officer will have to go and tell a parent that their son or daughter is in hospital as a result."

Bloody hell, talk about a massive overreaction. Don't even see why he has felt the need to speak out about the issue either.

Bizarre.
 
Soon we'll have a janitor at a school in Ipswich coming out and saying his pupils would get detention if they said 'fecking' like Rooney did.

fecking hell, he said one swear word, and it's portrayed as a 'foul-mouthed rant' and every man and his dog feels the need to comment. I don't know why, and since when, it's Wayne Rooney's job to raise the children of England. If the children think it's OK to say feck because Rooney did it on the telly, then it's the fecking parents who need to have a word with themselves, not Rooney.
 
Wayne Rooney’s swearing ban has sparked a revolt among Premier League referees.

In a bizarre new twist, they claim match official Lee Mason was put under pressure to write a report that would enable the FA to charge the Manchester United striker.

Mason’s admission he would have sent off the England star for swearing at a TV camera after scoring against West Ham had he been aware of the incident, was the spark for Rooney to be charged.

The two-match banwhich followed was upheld yesterday and Rooney says he is “gutted” to be missing the Premier League game with Fulham and FA Cup semi-final against Manchester City.

There is anger among Mason’s refereeing colleagues who insist he was ‘used’ by the FA who wanted Rooney to be charged – but wanted the referee to review his decision and come up with the conclusion that led to a ban.

A source close to the row said: “Lee should not have been put on the spot like this. If the FA wanted to ban Rooney they should have done it themselves.

“There is no way one of the senior refs would have sent him off for that or said they would when they reviewed it. Lee was put in a terrible position.

“This has caused real anger. There has not been a reaction like it before. We all feel for him and think he should have been protected – not hung out to dry.”

Senior refs felt that the FA should have simply charged Rooney rather than put the onus on the match official and have complained to their chief Mike Riley that he should have offered more protection to Mason.

However, another former referee Jeff Winter insisted Rooney has got off lightly.

And the Teesside official called for Rooney’s suspension to become a “watershed moment” in the Respect campaign where big clubs have promised to clean up their act.

Winter said: “I have been amazed by the feeding frenzy over Rooney’s punishment because, if anything, he got away lightly with a two-match ban.

“He would have been banned for 35 days in parks football if he had used such gutteral language in such a graphic context. And at this stage of the season, that would mean him missing eight or nine games.

“Pundits and the phone-in brigade tried to make his *behaviour sound acceptable because raw emotion is all part of the game and Rooney’s *reaction was somehow above reproach because it was *spontaneous.

“But you wouldn’t swear in the face of your parents like that, you wouldn’t do it in church and you wouldn’t let off steam like that in the middle of a crowded *supermarket, so why should you get away with it at a football match which is being shown all over the world live on TV?”

Rooney responded to the FA’s confirmation of his ban with fury, saying: “I am gutted to miss two matches, one of which is an FA Cup semi-final at Wembley. I am not the first player to have sworn on TV and I won’t be the last.”



Read more: Exclusive: Referees have revolted against the FA for using Lee Mason to write a report so Manchester United's Wayne Rooney could be charged for swearing - News - MirrorFootball.co.uk
Article claiming FA put pressure on Mason to claim he would have sent Rooney off in his match report to make it easier to ban him. Interesting.
 
Article claiming FA put pressure on Mason to claim he would have sent Rooney off in his match report to make it easier to ban him. Interesting.

If there's evidence of this, there has to be a case against the FA for breaking normal rules in order to get their way. It would have been nice to know before the appeal though no doubt the FA would deny this. We all know it's an attempt by the FA to stand up for itself because of media pressure. That's why it comes in April rather than the beginning of the season as it should. There's no other explanation for the sudden crackdown.

They're a bunch of cowards and should all be sacked. Also, the "independence" of the review panel is a joke.
 
Drogba's ban wasn't for swearing down a TV camera, or even just for swearing. I mean perhaps it's why they chose to punish him rather than someone else, but they charged him for making insulting comments to the referee, not swearing.
 
Rooney Would Have Been Locked Up

Top comments by a Wolverhampton senior police officer.

How on earth is this relevant? What we he be locked up for exactly?
If Rooney ran over to a police-officer shouting this, then of course he'd be idiotic to do so, but he didn't do this to a dibble, or at a night-club or in public, he did it after scoring a goal and didn't threaten anyone.

Wayne Rooney would have been locked up for behaving like that on a night out, says senior police officer
Wayne Rooney would have been locked up if he had shown the same “ridiculous aggression” on a night out as he did on the pitch, a senior police officer has said.
By Telegraph staff and other agencies 6:47PM BST 07 Apr 2011
Supt Mark Payne, responsible for managing responses to crime and operations in Wolverhampton, said his officers would face more Rooneys in the city centre this weekend and “no doubt somebody will be injured in some meaningless fight”.

The Manchester United and England striker must serve a two-match suspension for his four-letter outburst to TV cameras at West Ham on Saturday.

“If Rooney had behaved like that in Wolverhampton on Saturday night, I would have expected my officers to lock him up,” Mr Payne said.

“People in positions of influence have an obligation to behave like human beings. It is not a lot to ask.”

Writing on his blog on policing, he went on: “I have seen a thousand Rooneys, and I am sure most police officers will have.

“The same aggressive stance, the bulging eyes, the foul-mouthed rant, fists clenched, surrounded by his mates, all cheering him on.

“I have seen this on Friday and Saturday nights, as young men [and more often young ladies] engage in a 'good night out’.

“I have seen people argue over almost every kind of nonsense you could imagine. 'He stole my place in the taxi queue’, 'he looked at my girlfriend’, 'he is from the wrong estate’, 'I didn’t like the look of him’.”

The senior officer with the UK’s second largest force added that while Rooney had “offered some form of apology”, “what he won’t be able to do is alter the impression that he has left in the eyes of the watching youngsters”.

“It is OK to insult and abuse, it is OK to react with ridiculous aggression to perceived slights or provocation, it is excusable because it is the heat of the moment,” he said.

“My officers will face more Rooneys over the weekend, no doubt somebody will be injured in some meaningless fight. An officer will have to go and tell a parent that their son or daughter is in hospital as a result.”
Wayne Rooney would have been locked up for behaving like that on a night out, says senior police officer - Telegraph
 
feck me. Can people shut the feck up about this already? Bloody british media.
 
All the foreign players have an unfair advantage in this. They swear in other languages, which prevents charges being filed. The FA are clearly biased against the English-speaking people of the Premier League.

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Ah-so!

Could a kindly mod-muppet please merge?

Until then kids, continue as you like discussing this issue as you see fit.

I assure y'all, this is not the view of all coppers either, I know some who have been stunned by the sentence handed to Rooney.
 
Yes folks... Saying "feck" is now a crime against humanity.

I'm giving up to the Police now for saying it twice.