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Ronaldo | Refused to come on as sub, left OT | Axed from squad for Chelsea & fined 2 weeks wages
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Have to agree, we have seen ronaldo try to undermine ten hag authority as manager on about 4 occasions now in just 5 months, we saw him do the same with ole, he had pull in the club not pursuing conte and he also undermined ragnick, that toxicity is and was a recipe for disaster in any dressing room, the only difference is ten hag has the backing behind him to not allow ronaldo to get away with it this time round.
Also just look at the stats this season when we play and don't play with ronaldo along with the clear pressure and one dimensional style that sees team mates role on the pitch being reduced to having to serve to just him and when they don't he throws a strop at them and piles extra pressure on them.
The ABUs are backing Ronaldo because they want us to go down the wrong path.
His scoring rate was worse than Jaime Vardy and he spent half the season playing like shit. He had some great games in the last couple of months of the season that made people overlook how his season really went. In that period we still had games that showed his decline like the ones against Everton and Brighton. He didn't lose all ability over the summer, he has been losing it gradually over the last 3 years.
Ronaldo has declined and he is going to keep declining but the disappointing part is that he isn't cooked. He is still a very good athlete despite losing his devastating first step, his positioning and technique are still top notch. The issue is entirely in his head and his mindset, the player that he is today should be a support player, he should lean on his current qualities which are helpful for us but he wants to play like he was doing in 2015. He is extremely frustrating.
He didn't lose all ability in the summer. This isn't even his first torrid run of form this same calendar year. We're just no longer willing to flush team performance to get him there. I'm sure if we continue going route one to Ronaldo he can find a couple patches of form where he scores a couple winners enroute to dropping far more results. Face it, Ronaldo's relationship with our attackers is mostly parasitic at this point.
I think you’re misremembering a bit. We started very well against Leeds then were horrific against Southampton and Wolves.
This isn’t true and every time you lot take this dig for no reason it just makes you look fairly pathetic
They know exactly what I mean, it’s pointless when someone has more love for a narcissist who wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire.
Our football, for most of his tenure, was awful. He was a good man manager and good at getting the best out of players like Bruno, and we were a very resilient group under him at times who didn’t know when we were beaten, but we were mostly pretty poor to watch. Ronaldo coming in really didn’t affect much.
But we weren’t cack. Were Chelsea cack in 2005? Lots of later Fergie teams could be described as cack if you’re demanding being fun to watch. Barcelona under Pep were hideous to watch, were they cack?
tbf this is prior in time so doesn't count.
Fined 2 weeks wages, so that was a million pound strop!
That's Leeds game was one of those were practically every shot went in and flattered us if we're being honest.
Leeds played into our hands, we scored 5 from 8 shots on target and our xg was only around 1.6. Yes, we were all raving about it but we were getting way ahead of ourselves.
I wanted to cool off but there comments turns me on. When Mou was coach, we won 2 trophies but a lot of us here agreed that we were playing crap. Negative football, fellaini, lukaku....craps. Ole came and we developed as a ball playing team. Ole was not wonderful but he steadied the team and gave the team a direction. Then Ronaldo came
But those teams all won lots of trophies and dominated their leagues. Our biggest achievement under Ole was 2nd player with one of the lowest ever points finishes and embarrassment in the EL final. It’s a ridiculous comparison.
also none of those teams were as bad to watch as Ole’s was.
Let me use my last post to say this:
OLE was sacked and carrick took over for 2 games against a good Chelsea team and sociedad (?) Team that defeated us convincingly at OT.
In those 2 matches he started Ronaldo from the bench.
Should that not get us asking questions about what carrick knows about the Ronaldo impact?
Absolutely.
Amen. He should have never got full time job
That’s a weird point, they all won big trophies and/or hauled in lots of points.
We had 66 point seasons twice, played often like we weren’t coached and our best season managed 74 points & zero trophies.
In short, we were cack.
I mean if we were talking about Aston Villa or Everton here then you have a point, but for Manchester United and their budget to register two seasons at 66 points and one at 74 points is absolute cack.
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I don't think it needs one to fully flush the team performance down the drain. I think a different coach (say Mourinho) could still get some performances out of him. He can play poacher and the whole team can be built around feeding him and it'd still work. I'm sure Portugal will do just that at the WC.
He can't really do what EtH is asking him to do anymore.
He knew exactly what he was doing when he walked off like that, a planned last ditch attempt to undermine EtH and start a power struggle between them.
Thankfully EtH & the club have reacted in the right way and he and the rest of the squad know exactly who is in charge.
Ronnie will get limited minutes (if any) between now and when he leaves to become another clubs’ problem.
Thankfully EtH & the club have reacted in the right way and he and the rest of the squad know exactly who is in charge.
Ronnie will get limited minutes (if any) between now and when he leaves to become another clubs’ problem.
These people still haven’t said what United have done wrong here. Before Spurs he started 4 games and came in really early in a fifth (v Everton) in the last 7 odd games.
None of this makes any sense.
Our football under Ole wasn't very good but we became even worse after adding Ronaldo. Last season our xPTS had us at 8th, in the 2 full seasons under Ole it had us at 4th both times.
It's silly to attribute everything that led to Ole's sacking to just Ronaldo but the idea that he accelerated his demise isn't far-fetched.
The last bit where we played 4 games in 8 days because the Liverpool game got postponed? That last bit?
Under Ole we scored 1,92 goals per game. Best of any modern time United managers.I like watching us scoring goals.
He lost it that last season, but up until that point, he did a lot better job than what he is beeing credited for. Both in terms of entertaining football, and results.
(But of course, we only scored because of individual brilliance. Until that brilliance completely dissapeared under Ragnick, and they all were useless.)
Goals per game:
Ole 1,92
Sir Alex 1,84
Jose 1,69
Moyes 1,68
Van Gaal 1,53
Ten Haag 1,5
Ragnick 1,27
He lost it that last season, but up until that point, he did a lot better job than what he is beeing credited for. Both in terms of entertaining football, and results.
(But of course, we only scored because of individual brilliance. Until that brilliance completely dissapeared under Ragnick, and they all were useless.)
Goals per game:
Ole 1,92
Sir Alex 1,84
Jose 1,69
Moyes 1,68
Van Gaal 1,53
Ten Haag 1,5
Ragnick 1,27
Yes, actually many of us were saying the same thing, despite his heroics at points in the season if you go to last seasons Ronaldo thread there were many people criticising him.
It could work at International level, but more so for a team below the level of Portugal. At United's level nobody does that because all the other teams in the league are able to read it and nullify it, It's not a feasible option at a high level.
The issue is in his head for sure, but his physical decline is playing a big role. The reason for that imo is because he was always relying heavily on athlecism which was a level above everyone else. You don't see him using his balance and little feints to fool opposition like for example Messi does, Ronaldo is about acceleration and ability to control the ball at high speed (that is how I see Ronaldo since he moved to Madrid).
Now the problem is he hasn't adapted his game and now he just isn't much of a threat. I remember being amazed at how good Cavani was at bringing others to play, using space and making runs in the box. Obviously it would be better if we created more clear chances for Ronaldo, but it looks like the defenders in EPL will catch him easily anyway. This is also why he seems to spend so much time offside.
That's literally what we already do. We have a studded cast of long ball experts feeding him every second, Eriksen and Bruno then Antony and Dalot wider. It doesn't even work because his central movement isn't actually as good as a poaching expert. Looks like he still thinks he's playing wide forward. Half of it is running in behind before the build up is ripe, the other half is strolling from offside positions because he ran in behind before the build up was ripe. This seasons especially has been some of the worst movement I've seen from a poacher.
66 points twice, 74 points once. No trophies.
Complete utter meltdown in his final season with some of the most embarrassing results in our history. A ton of players we are now desperate to get rid of that he brought in for massive money & wages.
Stop this absolute bullshit that that wasn’t a horrendous job for a manager of Manchester United. I don’t give a shit if you did better than other managers at certain parts of the job (scoring goals) because those managers were also shite, yet two of those won trophies and were rightfully still deemed not good enough.
It plays a role because he isn't adapting. He is stuck in 2014-16, when he doesn't have to. He is still a very good athlete but has less of an edge than he had during his prime. And Cavani is an even worse comparison because Cavani was arguably the best athlete around, a very powerful, agile and fast with incredible stamina.
And he should change his game and be more of a support player but he seemingly can't accept that, in a way Giggs is the example at United. The more he lost physically, the more he leaned on his technique and on being a support player instead of being a headliner.
I never realized how reading the mad posts from Ronaldo fanbois here and all over social media outlets would have this much of a soothing effect on my soul.
No one seriously believes that.
It actually has the opposite effect on me. It offends me that such dumb people exist in the world. Hopefully they’ll all feck off to being lifelong MLS fans when Ronnie leaves and I’ll never have to hear from them again.
Anyone who watched them does. Horribly dull.
How have you lot got this over 2000 posts!? 
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