They certainly ain’t getting Caicedo for
£100m if they can’t muster £50m for Lavia.
Romeo Lavia | Chelsea bound?
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£100m if they can’t muster £50m for Lavia.
Amrabat has reportedly already turned them down as he favours a move to utd. I’m pretty sure all parties are in agreement the move to utd will happen.
They will go for Caicedo. Klopp will cry to owners how he can't go without dmc and owners will bring him Caicedo.
Hm.....McT is for sale
.The only reason I could think of for us going for 2 midfielders is that Poch is changing formation due to the long term injury of Nkunku. Rather than the 4-2-3-1 that we had been deploying in preseason we may now play 4-3-3. Two DM’s (Caicedo + Lavia/Adams?) with Enzo slightly higher up.
It just seems extremely unlikely or borderline impossible to believe that we’d spend £150m on BOTH Caicedo and Lavia. Especially when we still need another reliable goal scorer this window!
It just seems extremely unlikely or borderline impossible to believe that we’d spend £150m on BOTH Caicedo and Lavia. Especially when we still need another reliable goal scorer this window!
Madrid Buy Mbappe and have to selll Tchouameni is basically their only hope
I have followed english football extremely tight for about 30 years, and I can probably name the majority of Sheffield Uniteds squad from the 92/93 season - but after watching Chelsea getting involved in yet another transfer I can honestly say - I would struggle to name half of their squad at this moment. I have completely lost track of what they are doing at that club, it's a joke
Not how we used to act under Woodward 100% but to some degree that's what we used to do.
Its Chelsea turn now to go into the wilderness.
No. This is completely different. They've gone through 2 first 11s in 2 seasons. It's not normal and can't remember a time in my life that a top flight team has gone through such changes within a season.
Not how we used to act under Woodward 100% but to some degree that's what we used to do.
Its Chelsea turn now to go into the wilderness.
As a fan of Chelsea, and having watched most of the preseason games, I can kinda see where this is going and I’m excited to watch the team next season.
Yea, it definitely isn't normal. That is one reason they hired Pochettino, to bring normalcy to that club. If players think they are easily disposable it will have a major damage to squad morale and, no one would want to play for chelsea. Beside making Chelsea competitive again, Pochettino was hired to make the atmosphere better at Chelsea, which so far he is doing a fantastic job. Now with Pochettino there, Chelsea won't turn into a circus club like psg as he is at the fore front of bringing the right atmosphere to that club.
Back on thread topic, having both lavia and Caceido would be transformative for chelsea midfield. It gives Pochettino the tactical flexible to play 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, which he did in preseason and also at psg. It would make sense for chelsea to splash £150m on these two players especially when you look at the state of their current midfield. I don't even believe it will happen the progress of Santos or Ugochukwu because there is a potential that after this season Gallagher could be sold and chelsea could play without an natural 10 as I highlighted before in the colwill thread.
Chelsea in for him as well now. I feel we’re missing out here, would be a great player to come in and rotate with Casemiro and then become his long term successor.
We’ve all seen the price of midfielders 100m seems to be the basic rate for a decent one, this guy will be worth 100m in a summer or 2 without a doubt.
DM position locked down for the next 10 years whoever gets Lavia
We’ve all seen the price of midfielders 100m seems to be the basic rate for a decent one, this guy will be worth 100m in a summer or 2 without a doubt.
DM position locked down for the next 10 years whoever gets Lavia
Reckon we would have matched their bid had we been able to sell McTominay earlier
It's for the same reason boehly fired tuchel. Any success he wants to be with a team of his making not his predecessor.
Well pochettino need four more players for first team he will get it by the looks of it. Two central midfielders caicedo/lavia/adams one striker most probably vlahovic/wahi one no.10/right winger from olise/cherki/kudus.
Indeed exciting to see chelsea play with swag. If above transfers done I won't want nothing but title challenge.
We are a joke of a club these days. Without Klopp we'd be nowhere.
You have signed Mac Allister and the Hungary guy
I’m not sure why they prioritised signing midfielders who are more suited to contributing to the attack or midfield to attack phase. The holding midfielder / DM should have been the top priority. As of now their defence will be their Achilles heel again imo.
Not that Lavia is special defensively. Seems to have a lot of improvement to do in that regard. I was in the Lavia camp but Mainoo being given faith makes me care a bit less - he look a wonderful talent.
These days? Just a friendly joshing
I think we were expecting to go into the season with both Fabinho and Henderson in the squad. Neither were expected departures and its left the club scrambling around for a replacement DM, whilst making sure not to break FSG’s budget.
We’ll be left behind in this league if we don’t start investing properly. We should be backing Klopp whilst we have him.
Since we won the league we’ve signed two CB’s (Konate and that young kid who never played for us). City on the other hand have spent over 200 million iirc on that position and continued to refresh the squad.
The tragedy of this league is that a club that is not only cheating, but doing so backed by infinite money, is setting an artificial bar, which everyone else is measuring themselves by and trying to meet or even overcome.
You're putting it on your owners that they aren't conjuring similar funds to compete, but you must know it's wholly unrealistic and anyone finishing ahead of City would do so via a perfect storm, unless state-backed themselves?
Of course you are - it's not often you have no clue what players will start on the saturday. You will get the line-up and think to yourself: "Is he playing for us ? I didn't know that"
It's the FSG way. Do some things really well, then nullify it with an utter shit finish.
Chelsea, City and now Newcastle.
That's where most if the best young players will be from now on. Most of them will never even play a first team game for them. But they are pure ffp profit when sold and it won't be long before the young players are being sold for inflated prices to the Saudi league as a type of money laundering exercise.
That's where most if the best young players will be from now on. Most of them will never even play a first team game for them. But they are pure ffp profit when sold and it won't be long before the young players are being sold for inflated prices to the Saudi league as a type of money laundering exercise.
I wouldn't expect FSG to be able to spend similar to City, but since 2017, we've reached 3 cl finals winning one, won the league, the FA Cup and the Carabao Cup - and yet in the last 5 years, we've got a similar net spend to Wolves.
I mean, Spurs have outspent us almost 3 to 1. Villa twice as much.
If Lavia goes to Chelsea, I fully expect Liverpool to go over their limits and sign Caicedo for £100m. Both deals they’ve done this summer, they’ve paid the full release clause.
Your mistake is looking at net spend.
If they're being cheap over Lavia, it's pretty illogical to think they'll then slap down 100m for Caicedo?
There's a gigantic middle ground between what City does and what FSG does though. No one expects us to financially compete with them but at least they should recognize we have a top 5 manager in the world and they should be reaping the rewards by *properly* investing, not doing anything crazy but just give him some tools to work with.
If you lose 2 DMs in a week, their first response should've been to add a mere £5m to the Lavia deal, get it over the line AND be in the market for another defensive midfield option. Not feck about and lose out on him over some pocket change.
What else should I look at?
Spend obviously
You’ll be selling players for more money than Wolves would
Arsenal are said to be paying a £3m loan fee for David Raya with the option to make the deal permanent for £27 million next season. The deal is reportedly structured this way due to FFP concern. Maybe, Liverpool also uses the same strategy to sign Caicedo? Just my thought but I can see Liverpool signing another midfielder or two before the window shuts.
They've earned more in transfers in the last five years from what I can tell.
Shocking after spending how much in the last 12 months that you're still in that position.
And as unlikely as it seems, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it happened.
I can't even recall seeing this guy play!
A DM in a team that was relegated....sign him up!
Roy says hi.
We’re in this position because our marquee attacking signing has just got injured for 4-5 months.
Yeah me neither! Watched this one video and there’s a few clips of him against us looking pretty classy, but I don’t remember him at all. That kind of composure at that level at his age is pretty special. Hopefully Mainoo can be that!
Of course you are - it's not often you have no clue what players will start on the saturday. You will get the line-up and think to yourself: "Is he playing for us ? I didn't know that"
Ah that must be the reason you need 2 midfielders.