As per the assorted tweets in the twitter thread, it looks as though both managers got their first choices (while Lukaku was a 'club' target for Chelsea, Conte himself wanted Morata/Belotti). Essentially, everyone's happy (except possibly Michael Emenalo, but who cares about him anyway).
Romelu Lukaku vs Alvaro Morata 2017/18
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As per the assorted tweets in the twitter thread, it looks as though both managers got their first choices (while Lukaku was a 'club' target for Chelsea, Conte himself wanted Morata/Belotti). Essentially, everyone's happy (except possibly Michael Emenalo, but who cares about him anyway).
Morata is better looking for sure. Our most handsome player since Cudicini left.
It's funny, a month ago people were certain Lukaku would be at Chelsea and Morata would be at Utd
Think they'll both do well and score plenty of goals. Lukaku's much more suited to Utd and Mourinhos style of football and Morata is much more suited to Chelsea and Conte's style of football
Much prefer Morata out of the two, feel he has much more to his game than Lukaku but Lukaku is defiantly more clinical
Think they'll both do well and score plenty of goals. Lukaku's much more suited to Utd and Mourinhos style of football and Morata is much more suited to Chelsea and Conte's style of football
Much prefer Morata out of the two, feel he has much more to his game than Lukaku but Lukaku is defiantly more clinical
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I've got nothing against Belgians. Batshuayi is a handsome bugger.
Somehow people tend to ignore this.
I remember watching this video of Pogba last year when he was linked to us. Someone posted this video of Pogba creating chances for Juventus.
After watching that video I saw 2 things happen constantly: Pogba creating load for Juventus and the other thing was Mandzukic and Morata pissing away those chances.
That's a fair analysis. I think ultimately neither are world class, but will both do fine and make valuable contributions.
I think both clubs ended up with each others first choice.
While Conte may have wanted Morata anyway but I am willing to bet everyone else Emenalo/Granovskia/Abrahmovic though they had Lukaku in the bag at the beginning of the summer.
On the other side, Morata still remains one of the only two youngsters that Jose willingly gave a debut to while Lukaku is the player that Jose never really rated even after scoring a boat load of goals at everton in his first season.
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morata is definitely more dynamic but to say hes less of a risk than lukaku is unfair imo.
Lukaku knows the league, has a proven goal scoring record and has been the leading striker for his team and one of the best strikers in the league for a couple of years. Morata has not lead the line consistently for any team, has no experience of playing 55-60 games a season and has never shouldered the majority of the goal scoring burden for a team. Hes on unfamiliar ground in an unfamiliar league. I dont doubt his quality, but to say hes not a risk (and probably a bigger one than lukaku) is incorrect imo
Don't know, wanted Morata more because he is more versatile and was good in the cl. Curious who will do better. Lukaku seems to have a good relationship with Pogba, maybe it's good for the team building that we bought him instead of Morata.
Thank feck the board lost out then, hate it when we sign players managers don't want, i.e. Sheva
Morata isn't even a goalscorer, ffs.
He scored less than 10 league goals in both seasons for a dominant Juve side, and managed only 15 for a team that scored 106 goals last year. He's a good technical player that will make those around him look better but he's massively overrated on here.
Lukaku will outscore him by 10 or more goals next season.
He scored less than 10 league goals in both seasons for a dominant Juve side, and managed only 15 for a team that scored 106 goals last year. He's a good technical player that will make those around him look better but he's massively overrated on here.
Lukaku will outscore him by 10 or more goals next season.
Where does this idea that morata is more intelligent come from? Watch Lukaku's movement, the interview with carragher where he explains in depth his methodologu, his runs, his positioning as a poacher. How is morata more intelligent? Better technique doesn't equal intelligence and even the RL creates more chances and dribbles more per game(don't know per 90).
IMO, the assertion that morata is more intelligent comes from flawed conceptions and dubious logic- RL is more physical therefore morata must be smarter. You know, that kind of 'the lord giveth and the lord taketh away" logic: men are stronger so women must be more machiavellian etc.
IMO, the assertion that morata is more intelligent comes from flawed conceptions and dubious logic- RL is more physical therefore morata must be smarter. You know, that kind of 'the lord giveth and the lord taketh away" logic: men are stronger so women must be more machiavellian etc.
Plus a wee sprinkle of low-grade racism...
Plus in that interview with Henry, Lukaku explained how he watches hours of footage of elite strikers so he can learn their little nuances of finding space etc.
Lukaku is seriously intelligent, doesn't he speak 6 languages as well?
Lukaku is seriously intelligent, doesn't he speak 6 languages as well?
Who is saying Morata is more intelligent than Lukaku anyway?
General intelligence won't necessarily translate to better football intelligence. Having said that, Lukaku clearly has the motivation and drive to continually improve - that's something worth its weight in dragon glass.
Both players have their pros and cons for the price they are bought.
I think both will be a hit.
I think both will be a hit.
Yes but admitting that he studies hours of footage shows his on field intelligence, he's not doing it for fun.
Thats the reason why he's showing year on year improvement.
Thats the reason why he's showing year on year improvement.
If thecafe can answer who was better drogba or rvn?
There is no answer to this.
Both will be pretty good.
There is no answer to this.
Both will be pretty good.
Easy, Drogba.
Ruud was much better.
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And Conte's decision to sign Morata will not be put to a very public test.
Lukaku has been hitting double figures in the PL since he was 19. Morata managed it for the first time in his career last season, mostly coming on as a sub for the superior team against tired defenses. I think Morata is a good player but I've not been impressed with his goalscoring having only played for a team that's always the favorite. He could well end up the better player when you look back in 10 years time but at the moment Lukaku is more of a sure thing so I'm happy with that.
To be fair Conte didn't really have a choice, did he? Not like he had much of a chance to get Lukaku from United...
Considering Chelsea are the better side, with a stronger starting 11, with a better oiled tactic, playing at the peak of their cycle, you would expect Morata to slot in to Costas position and score more goals.
Lukaku is coming in midway through a big rebuild, we're still probably 1-2 years away from being where Chelsea are in terms of the completed project.
But, will Morata adapt to the Premier League, and to being the main man, he's never really done more than chip in with goals, so it will be interesting.
Lukaku is coming in midway through a big rebuild, we're still probably 1-2 years away from being where Chelsea are in terms of the completed project.
But, will Morata adapt to the Premier League, and to being the main man, he's never really done more than chip in with goals, so it will be interesting.
Morata is more intelligent with his overall play, intricate passes and runs and so on.
Lukaku is singleminded in his desire to always be in the best place to score.
Thankfully pretty passes don't win football matches.
Lukaku is singleminded in his desire to always be in the best place to score.
Thankfully pretty passes don't win football matches.
He isnt that much of a risk because if he cant score goals he will be moved as no 10 or on the flank. Lukaku cant. He either score goals or he is as useful as bull tits
Morata will be a revelation for Chelsea.
If anything Lukaku has shown more intelligence with himself finding spaces and getting in right places to position himself to score.
And just like that another myth is about to take off. Repeat something many times untill it becomes the truth. I give this 2 more days until this random thought about Morata being the more intelligent player become a consensus just because some Chelsea clown spouted it somewhere.
And just like that another myth is about to take off. Repeat something many times untill it becomes the truth. I give this 2 more days until this random thought about Morata being the more intelligent player become a consensus just because some Chelsea clown spouted it somewhere.
That's just bs re Lukaku's intelligence. How these journalists are paid to write about football is beyond me.
Also for a player who is supposedly weaker technically, he completes more dribbles than Morata and even Auba. Something is not adding up.
It's quite sad.
It's basically just a clueless journalist spouting random nonsenses based on this lazy perception that big and strong equal dumb while small and technical equal smart.
To think these guys get paid to give their takes. They should be paid to shut up.
By the looks of it, Morata was both clubs backup option. Lukaku himself said that he spoke to Mourinho months ago and knew that this deal was happening. Also, it appeared that Conte was pretty desperate to get Lukaku. Anyhow, despite some of the Spanish Welbeck stuff, I like Morata and think he'll be a good fit at Chelsea. I prefer Lukaku though and I'm glad we got him.
Your own manager said you couldn't come to an agreement over Morata.
United have the younger and more prolific striker.
We obviously would have done if Chelsea had got Lukaku instead. Just accept it Lukaku was both clubs first choice.
Because Morata wasn't his first choice so he was pretty much forced in to buying him. We could have chosen either so ultimately its Jose who is judged on that choice.