Romelu Lukaku vs Alvaro Morata 2017/18

Lukaku will score a few more PL goals than Morata but Morata will do better in the CL and their attack will score more due to him being a better footballer, while they will also finish comfortably ahead of us in the league.
 
I see the Beeb have already started the comparisons. Check out this pro-Chelsea article:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40662659

Apparently the fee was £60 million.

A quote from one of their 'experts':



Thanks Mina.

What a bunch of absolute nonsense that is, absolutely embarrassing. I remember seeing an interview with Lukaku where he could recall the particulars of the goals from specific matches from years gone by, he's a total obsessive of the game and is nothing if not intelligent.
 
I would have preferred Morata + a prolific wideforward in the mould of Sanchez. I think that would have produced more aesthetically pleasing football, and been a better fit for the players already at the club.
:drool:
 
Can you split into starts and mins played etc?

Morata spent a fair bit of time on the bench.

However his shot conversion was the highest in the league...

That was my prediction of goals for next year
 
What a bunch of absolute nonsense that is, absolutely embarrassing. I remember seeing an interview with Lukaku where he could recall the particulars of the goals from specific matches from years gone by, he's a total obsessive of the game and is nothing if not intelligent.

Yeah but he's black so he's lazy, thick as pig shit, and not technically gifted.

Would be funny if it wasn't so sad.
 
Is it possible to hide a thread? I really couldn't give a shit about this and know it'll keep getting refreshed all season
 
And people will start bringing in intangible when it comes to Morata because stats and hard proof numbers clearly say Lukaku should be the much preferred player. Lukaku is productive both in goals and assists.

Stats and numbers aren't always everything but when it comes to strikers, they should be rated by goals scored and Lukaku has simply proven to be better.

And what's impressive is that Lukaku has plied his trade in mid table teams yet managed to return impressive numbers. He somehow made himself consistent among top scorers in the league irregadless of where he played and none of his teams have been top ones. These are some impressive stuff people should acknowledge and appreciate.
 
Hat-trick against the champions at the time.

Aye, when he's on form Lukaku is utterly unstoppable. The question mark is whether he can stay on form for prolonged periods. If he can, then you have the next best striker in the world.
 
It's absolutely mindboggling that anyone would pay so much for Morata. The guy has never shown he's an exceptional player.

Lukaku on the other hand has clearly established that he's a consistent goal scorer, which is priceless. He's still very young but has scored a huge number of goals already. And scoring goals, however you want to think about it, really is the main objective of the game.

I'm afraid Man Utd made the right decision here, I'm just hoping Mourinho's ego can somehow feck it up due to his prior history with Lukaku.
 
Both good strikers and we can add Lacazette to that category. None of them however is a difference maker of the highest calibre. The good news is the PL don't have those anyway so they might be enough to win the title depending on the 10 behind them.
 
It's absolutely mindboggling that anyone would pay so much for Morata. The guy has never shown he's an exceptional player.

Lukaku on the other hand has clearly established that he's a consistent goal scorer, which is priceless. He's still very young but has scored a huge number of goals already. And scoring goals, however you want to think about it, really is the main objective of the game.

I'm afraid Man Utd made the right decision here, I'm just hoping Mourinho's ego can somehow feck it up due to his prior history with Lukaku.
Have you forgotten his game against you guys?
 
And people will start bringing in intangible when it comes to Morata because stats and hard proof numbers clearly say Lukaku should be the much preferred player. Lukaku is productive both in goals and assists.

Stats and numbers aren't always everything but when it comes to strikers, they should be rated by goals scored and Lukaku has simply proven to be better.

And what's impressive is that Lukaku has plied his trade in mid table teams yet managed to return impressive numbers. He somehow made himself consistent among top scorers in the league irregadless of where he played and none of his teams have been top ones. These are some impressive stuff people should acknowledge and appreciate.
Mostly true but there are exceptions. What if the striker forces you to play in a way that hinders others from being in goalscoring positions and therefore he might score more but the team overall scores less? We never had and we will not have a striker as good as RvN when it comes to the art of scoring goals but it is also true that his time with us was far from successful by our own standards. It's not because of him entirely obviously but when someone like Sir Alex talks about how predictable and less dynamic our attack has been in that period, we have to take notice.

Just for the record, I think Morata is one of the most overrated strikers nowadays. The fact that he was coming on late in games and scoring goals for Real has enhanced his reputation way too much and if we were to pay 70 plus for someone, I'd sooner spend it on Lukaku. I'm just trying to say that strikers don't function separate from the rest of the team which is why their own numbers are not necessarily the only factor that matters.
 
According to Di Marzio it's 80-85 Million Euros.

Might be the difference in initial fee vs. total after all bonuses are met? Law is obviously a Chelsea propagandist but he has typically been accurate about reported figures.

£58m is €65m, so I could see €80m or €85m making sense with bonuses.
 
Lukaku will score a few more PL goals than Morata but Morata will do better in the CL and their attack will score more due to him being a better footballer, while they will also finish comfortably ahead of us in the league.
Still a bit depressed about it, then?
 
Might be the difference in initial fee vs. total after all bonuses are met? Law is obviously a Chelsea propagandist but he has typically been accurate about reported figures.

I don't believe any of the English journalists. They don't have a clue and are always last to the party.
 
I don't get the Morata love in.

40 league goals at the age of 24...

Lukaku is breaking records every season.

United got their number one target.
 
Plus they rarely end well! Such gems include Welbeck v Sturridge, Januzaj v Sterling and Depay v Firmino (bit of a theme there :nervous:).

There was Vidic vs Skrtel, Ferdinand vs Agger, Nani vs Babel comparisons here too. Don't worry.
 
Based on very limited viewing of Morata, I have always rated him highly and wanted him more than Lukaku at United. I'm happy with Lukaku but I think Morata just needed regular game time to become a great striker. Hope I'm wrong.

Morata had regular game time at Juve and it ended with him literally not scoring for months.
 
Jan Schlaudraff excelled against us too, once, in the Pokal for Aachen, didn't make him an exceptional player. We bought him of course.
He's also scored in a CL final, both legs in semifinals, and Coppa Italia final. Second top scorer for Real in their most successful season in half a century. He's at least shown potential IMO.

Although looking back against the game against Bayern, he was up against Benatia who forgot to bring his brain to Germany, Kimmich at CB, and Alonso in his last legs, which isn't all that.
 
What a bunch of absolute nonsense that is, absolutely embarrassing. I remember seeing an interview with Lukaku where he could recall the particulars of the goals from specific matches from years gone by, he's a total obsessive of the game and is nothing if not intelligent.
Indeed. I got way more excited about Lukaku after seeing the interview with Henry and post match chats. I'd argue he could be one of the most well versed players in the entire league. Now does that translate to on the pitch decision making - I'd like to think so. I really think some of this perception he is a big lump of man meat comes exactly from that - when you watch him get in position or make moves it can look a bit akward because of the big frame but it's really quite intelligent and graceful : example his goal against Salt Lake.
 
Lukaku was United and Chelsea's 1st choice this summer, made up my mind
 
Indeed. I got way more excited about Lukaku after seeing the interview with Henry and post match chats. I'd argue he could be one of the most well versed players in the entire league. Now does that translate to on the pitch decision making - I'd like to think so. I really think some of this perception he is a big lump of man meat comes exactly from that - when you watch him get in position or make moves it can look a bit akward because of the big frame but it's really quite intelligent and graceful : example his goal against Salt Lake.

He's very much still a diamond in the rough if you ask me, but if his game can be polished then there isn't a better prospective centre forward in the world in my book. His movement off the ball is very good and he suffered from a lack of service at Everton (how much this will improve next season is up for debate though). If he gets into open space or isolated against a single defender he's absolutely lethal; whether United can get other players around him to help prevent double teams will be key I think. Personally I think he needs to work on his hold up play and workrate defensively. He's got the brains and the physical tools to succeed at all of this, however, there's no doubt, and in Mourinho he has a manager who moulded a similar prospect in Drogba into one of the world's best.

I generally preferred him to Morata even if I think Morata is a slightly better fit for Chelsea's system. Would be happy to be proven wrong though.
 
Lukaku was United and Chelsea's 1st choice this summer, made up my mind

this is debatable. didn't mourinho say it was a shame we couldn't reach a deal for morata? either way, it doesn't necessarily mean much, also lukaku counts as homegrown
 
Lukaku bring goals to the table. If he fails on that then he will be useless. Morata can play in different roles and is a much better player. He is less of a risk
 
And it's quite funny how some people are trying to dismiss goalscoring abilities and taking it lightly. Scoring is the most important thing in the game, seeing people go on about technical abilities and such as to explain why they should simply dismiss it is quite funny.

Being a natural goalscorer is a gift not many have. And a player lucky enough to have that gift over anything else should be thanking God every waking hours.

It's actually very rare to find natural goalscorers and elite or even good striker than whatever technical player out there. You'll see all these player with good feel of the ball and decent to good technical abilities yet don't have that gift of scoring goals. Proper goalscorers are a rare breed who should be cherished.

Considering where he played and done it(WB, Everton), scoring load and being among the leagues top scorers season after season while being very young, Lukaku is one lucky bastard blessed with the gift of scoring. He's a natural goalscorer. He was blessed with that gift.

I'm just going to say something bold but very true which will have plenty in here disagreeing with me, but Lukaku is actually a better pure striker than Zlatan. He's a naturally goalscorer and far more clinical than Zlatan. While the latter is purely and simply a better footballer if I had to put money on either to bang in the most goals Lukaku comes to mind.

People were impressed with Zlatan return last season but I'm seeing Lukaku topping that(28 goals) which shouldn't be surprising(if it happens) especially if we are as creative as we were in the first third of the season.

And given how most of Zlatan clear cut chances were mostly created by Pogba, Lukaku will also benefit greatly from this given Pogba will mostly be looking for him too.
 
Thats bollocks. They spent a whole month trying to get Morata before quickly moving in for Lukaku. Atleast that is what the news items make it look like.

Don't believe everything you see in the news.

In that case you spend all window trying to get Lukaku before being beaten to his signature by United. Then had to get Morata who we decided to not bother with.