Where did you get these stats?
Romelu Lukaku vs Alvaro Morata 2017/18
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Where did you get these stats?
I think he has done reasonably well here, he has had a bad spell in October/November but has picked up in the new year. 8 games, 6 goals 2 assists is pretty good going.
I don't rate him in the same bracket as Kane, Aguero just yet. However, do people think given the current style of football we are playing that if we swapped Lukaku with Kane he would have a better goal tally? I'm not so sure I think maybe a couple more but it would be close.
I don't rate him in the same bracket as Kane, Aguero just yet. However, do people think given the current style of football we are playing that if we swapped Lukaku with Kane he would have a better goal tally? I'm not so sure I think maybe a couple more but it would be close.
they are both very good. Morata will be better next year. Lukaku too
Specifically speaking, its goals per total shots but they're on BBC.
I don't want to turn this into a Lukaku Vs Kane but yeah, he would.
Lukaku needs more service, look at most of his goals this year.. he has either started the move off or a few headers he wouldn't even be expected to get to. Think hes been really good recently
His goal scoring since October has been sporadic at best, he quite possibly should have a lot more goals than he does
Sorry off topic. My point really was that service hasn't been great for Lukaku, nor in my opinion would it have been for Morata, Kane etc.
Yes, the service hasn't been great at all but Kane has a lot more in his locker which makes the players around him tick. His hold up play for instance is on another level which brings others into the game.
Because he's effectively fulfilling the duty that Kane and Aguero perform for their respective clubs here. And right now they're comfortably better players than him.
It's not a problem for myself, it's a problem for the club. I don't understand your logic with that one.. Team's that perform in the big games generally go on to win the title, the striker is a fundamental part of a team when it comes to these games and if our striker doesn't perform well on a consistent basis against these sides then it's hampering our chances big time.
This no chances created for him talk is also a myth in my opinion as well. His movement is sub par at times, that coupled with his bad first touch makes him an easy player to isolate which makes it hard for the players behind him to create the chances.
Don't get me wrong I rate him and he will get you 20 goals a season like you say, but he can be extremely frustrating when things aren't going well.
Interesting stat.
Just missed 8 chances last year and scored 25 goals which is exceptional.
I'd say tonight pretty much reaffirmed this. Had 38 touches and lost it 18 times.
No complaints from me.
This thread 
People are entitled not to rate Lukaku but making out Morata would have been our saviour is hilarious. Lukaku is far better.
People are entitled not to rate Lukaku but making out Morata would have been our saviour is hilarious. Lukaku is far better.
Close the thread?
Lukaku ended the debate, while Morata floundered again.
Lukaku ended the debate, while Morata floundered again.
How is this thread even a thing still? Lock it up, there’s honestly no discussion to have at this point
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@Damien
He's definitely going through a dry spell but the quality is still there. He will wake up at some point and resume scoring at which point if Lukaku happens to be in a dry spell the tide will once again shift. Just look at earlier portions of this thread where the Lukaku triumphalism went eerily quiet. People are generally mass kneejerkers on this.
Morata would infuriate me if he was on my team because he constantly whines and throws himself to the ground.
Souness has ended this debate today, saying that if Lukaku played for Chelsea they would've won.
I'd be surprised if Chelsea fans aren't infuriated by that.
Yesterday commentator made a good point. If it was Morata in the build up play, he would have gone down for the first goal. Lukaku played on and scored the goal.
That was a great point and we all know how spot on it is. I still love @Rado_N 's description of Morata (he's a bitch). He's a coward who wants FKs to be given to him at every single challenges. Imagine going from Diego Costa to this pussy.
Yeah, every touch he went down. Probably Smalling never had a easier game dealing physical duels against a #9.
I agree, but Lukaku surely has been the stable one overall
Morata is a complete and utter fanny and would be far more suited to Arsenal, really.
There's no comparison between them in their first year. Lukaku has been way better. if he mangages to improve his first touch, he would be a beast. this is the only thing missing for him and that's what prevents him from keeping the ball and making the player around him play. i think he'll manage that and when he does, the goals will flow even more.
Here you go guys. he took half the shots Kane managed.
1. Harry Kane Tottenham Hotspur156
2. Mohamed Salah Liverpool 108
3. Sergio Agüero Manchester City 88
4. Alexis Sánchez Manchester United 80
5. Richarlison Watford Brazil 79
6. Romelu Lukaku Manchester United 76
Kane and Salah missed way more big chances than Lukaku, that shows that they got more big chances than him.
1. Mohamed Salah Liverpool 19
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3. Harry Kane Tottenham Hotspur 16
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4. Álvaro Morata Chelsea 15
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9. Romelu Lukaku Manchester United 10
I think that he isn't that far off Kane as people make it. he has definitly been good for us. if you don't take into consideration just goals and include the assists and it's reasonable to do so, i prefer a striker that scores 10 goals and assits 10 than one who scores 16. anyway, it gives you this:
Lukaku has (13 + 6): 19
Kane has (24 + 1): 25
So in term of contribution, he isn't that far off of Kane. and with the style of football we played, it's not unreasonable to say that he doesn't get as much service as Kane.
Always prefer a player who can stick the ball away as creating the chance doesn't guarentee a goal. A strikers job is to score 1st and foremost. no escaping that. Lukaku doesn't get enough chances to him though
I think you're wrong on this. It's not just a dry spell. His all round game is very poor and ineffective. His hold up play is awful. He falls down constantly. Every Chelsea fan that I know has been massively disappointed with him this season and wanted Giroud to start yesterday.
Can see why both Chelsea and United wanted Lukaku as number one option.
Thank God Lukaku chose United and turned them down.
Thank God Lukaku chose United and turned them down.
Things are looking good for him arent they?
This thread looks better and better, game by game.
Starting to look like a big-money flop similar to Sheva.
Even Torres had his uses.
Even Torres had his uses.
He's 3 (?) games short of Torres longest ever dry spell for Chelsea.
Still think Costa is better than both. Especially when it really matters.
That was Chelsea's biggest mistake.
That was Chelsea's biggest mistake.
He has went 27 games without scoring for Juve.
There is a bit of a way to go be for he's completely assed out.
There is a bit of a way to go be for he's completely assed out.
Still think?
There’s no thinking. When Morata and Lukaku play a key part in their teams lifting leagues like Costa did for Atletico and Chelsea then they’d maybe challenge Costa.